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4 hours ago, Unsympathetic said:

None of this. For the love of God, make none of it happen.  And I don't think it does happen --- because of money.

 

Chiefs are over the cap before signing any of their own FA's and think they're going to get picks?  No way. Browns have all the cards.  If Chiefs want to make a trade, they need to add picks for us to take their salary.

You're dreaming. It only takes two teams to start a bidding war U. Kansas City has an asset that we (and several other teams) may find desirable. The Browns definitely don't have all the cards. This isn't even remotely comparable to us getting a second round pick to take Osweiler off the Texans' hands- Smith is a proven commodity, Osweiler stunk in Houston. 

1 hour ago, Unsympathetic said:

I think we wait out KC and KC gives us a 6th to take Smith off their cap.

Browns are the only team they can trade with -- they need that cap relief both for resigning their own and other FA and draft picks..

That means we hold the cards, period -- we could just sign one of the MIN QB's if need be.

Second things first. Vikings China Doll Bradford, or bum knee Teddy? Going for factory seconds again? No thanks. 

As to no other team being able to bid, Wrongo. We probably have the most draft assets to win a bidding war, but there's a bunch of other QB needy teams that can finagle (or easily manage) to get Smith's salary under the cap. Take a look. 

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/

Cardinals- $10 milion

Jaguars (short of winning the Super Bowl, they may dump Bortles) $17 million

Broncos (shades of getting Manning, their window is closing fast) $29 million

Bills (bye Tyrod, hello Alex, BTW they have two first round picks one of which would trump one of our seconds) $31 million

Redskins (if Cousins walks) $52 million. 

Jets $72 million

10 minutes ago, The Gipper said:

How do you come to the conclusion that the Browns are the only team they can trade with?  Several teams may be looking for the services of Smith.  A few others may be in the same position that we are in....looking for a "bridge guy".  Cardinals for one.   I would say that the Broncos could be in for the services of Smith but the Chefs will not trade him in their division.  Hell...the Vikings may be looking for a QB of his stature...since all theirs will be FAs.  Redskins maybe if Cousins does not go back there.  Jets possibly.  Maybe even the Bills if they are Tyred of Tyrod. 

So...again, explain how we are the only ones. Hell....KC could just decide to keep him as well.  Why not?

See above- only thing I'll disagree on Gip is to keep Smith, they would have to dump several high priced vets to stay under the cap. Even trading a guy like Eric Berry wouldn't get it done...   Good point on the Broncos though...   

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15 minutes ago, hoorta said:

You're dreaming. It only takes two teams to start a bidding war U. Kansas City has an asset that we (and several other teams) may find desirable. The Browns definitely don't have all the cards. This isn't even remotely comparable to us getting a second round pick to take Osweiler off the Texans' hands- Smith is a proven commodity, Osweiler stunk in Houston. 

Second things first. Vikings China Doll Bradford, or bum knee Teddy? Going for factory seconds again? No thanks. 

As to no other team being able to bid, Wrongo. We probably have the most draft assets to win a bidding war, but there's a bunch of other QB needy teams that can finagle (or easily manage) to get Smith's salary under the cap. Take a look. 

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/

Cardinals- $10 milion

Jaguars (short of winning the Super Bowl, they may dump Bortles) $17 million

Broncos (shades of getting Manning, their window is closing fast) $29 million

Bills (bye Tyrod, hello Alex, BTW they have two first round picks one of which would trump one of our seconds) $31 million

Redskins (if Cousins walks) $52 million. 

Jets $72 million

See above- only thing I'll disagree on Gip is to keep Smith, they would have to dump several high priced vets to stay under the cap. Even trading a guy like Eric Berry wouldn't get it done...   Good point on the Broncos though...   

OK, so KC will be under the gun:  Do they keep Smith...or some of their other "high priced" vets.   Who are those guys?  And would they be more or less expendable than Smith to the Chiefs?

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2 minutes ago, The Gipper said:

OK, so KC will be under the gun:  Do they keep Smith...or some of their other "high priced" vets.   Who are those guys?  And would they be more or less expendable than Smith to the Chiefs?

As Ag mentioned to you, Google is your friend....   https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/kansas-city-chiefs/

I'll let you put a value meter on their players.  :)   

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