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26 minutes ago, wargograw said:

That firing everyone wouldn’t be some oasis of success. Didn’t I just say this?

And I said any replacement hires would blow and therefore firing guys (what you wanted to do) wouldn’t work. Check and check for me so far. 

Exactly War- but they might have fired the wrong guy. Sashi made many mistakes though- starting with passing on Wentz- I could go on. It's why he got canned. 0-16, somebody walks the plank- that's just the way it is in the NFL. That's not to say Hueless the Clueless is absolved from blame for the current mess we find ourselves in. 

I don't know how you can say- short of having a crystal ball that sees into the future- that Dorsey and Highsmith won't be an improvement over Sashi. I'm at least willing to give them a chance, will you? 

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11 hours ago, wargograw said:

That firing everyone wouldn’t be some oasis of success. Didn’t I just say this?

And I said any replacement hires would blow and therefore firing guys (what you wanted to do) wouldn’t work. Check and check for me so far. 

Easy to say whith the record. They all have been bad. But you seem to like the Winless guy best with the Winless Browns. Good luck with that.

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21 hours ago, hoorta said:

Exactly War- but they might have fired the wrong guy. Sashi made many mistakes though- starting with passing on Wentz- I could go on. It's why he got canned. 0-16, somebody walks the plank- that's just the way it is in the NFL. That's not to say Hueless the Clueless is absolved from blame for the current mess we find ourselves in. 

I don't know how you can say- short of having a crystal ball that sees into the future- that Dorsey and Highsmith won't be an improvement over Sashi. I'm at least willing to give them a chance, will you? 

Hue's replacement wouldn't be any good either. It's a pontless endeavor. You have to build the team in the same system over several years.

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21 minutes ago, wargograw said:

Hue's replacement wouldn't be any good either. It's a pontless endeavor. You have to build the team in the same system over several years.

When Sashi gets a new GM gig, feel free to go root for that team...

Oh... wait...

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32 minutes ago, wargograw said:

Hue's replacement wouldn't be any good either. It's a pontless endeavor. You have to build the team in the same system over several years.

Nope, it's as simple as finding the right guy. Happens all the time.

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I assume that this thread is the thread to do updating on the coaching jobs in the NFL.

It was announced today that Pat's DC Matt Patricia will become the HC of the Detroit Lions...when the Pats playoff run is done.

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30 minutes ago, The Gipper said:

I assume that this thread is the thread to do updating on the coaching jobs in the NFL.

It was announced today that Pat's DC Matt Patricia will become the HC of the Detroit Lions...when the Pats playoff run is done.

The Lions are going to the same Patriots coaching well that gave us Charlie Weis, Romeo Crennel, Eric Mangini, Josh McDaniels, et al.

Godspeed, Detroit Lions.

 

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35 minutes ago, The Gipper said:

I assume that this thread is the thread to do updating on the coaching jobs in the NFL.

It was announced today that Pat's DC Matt Patricia will become the HC of the Detroit Lions...when the Pats playoff run is done.

If they announce something similar about McDanields, it could mean that Belichick is retiring. I can't see him staying in the Pats and losing two main coaches of his personnel. 

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4 minutes ago, Nero said:

If they announce something similar about McDanields, it could mean that Belichick is retiring. I can't see him staying in the Pats and losing two main coaches of his personnel. 

I want the Patriots to stay together just long enough to keep the Steelers and Roethlisberger from ever winning another Super Bowl.

When Big Ben retires, the Pats can then break up the dynasty! :lol:

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3 hours ago, Dutch Oven said:

When Sashi gets a new GM gig, feel free to go root for that team...

Oh... wait...

I'll stick with the Browns, and the Browns will keep sucking. But at least they have a football guy. You, on the other hand, could go live in another country though....

2 hours ago, flyingfooldoug said:

Nope, it's as simple as finding the right guy. Happens all the time.

Until Mr. "Right Guy" gets fired 3 years later. Yeah, the NFL is just teeming with long-tenured head coaches because those organizations just found the "right guy."

No, they're run well and they're talented, so a halfway decent coach can walk in and win some games. We can never have that because we scrap the players every two years. And why do we do that? Because we scrap the GM and HC every two years. 

But hey, at some point it'll click. Maybe attempt #9 or whatever we're on will be the charm.

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21 minutes ago, wargograw said:

I'll stick with the Browns, and the Browns will keep sucking. But at least they have a football guy. You, on the other hand, could go live in another country though....

Man, when you go off the rails, YOU GO OFF THE RAILS.

Next you'll compare Sashi getting fired to the Holocaust.

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3 hours ago, Dutch Oven said:

Man, when you go off the rails, YOU GO OFF THE RAILS.

Next you'll compare Sashi getting fired to the Holocaust.

Yeah it's kinda like you telling me to go root for another team because I'm dissatisfied with the moves of this one, while you've spent months saying people's dissatisfaction is a-ok. Hypocrite. You are really bad at defending yourself intellectually. I'd take up something else. 

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5 hours ago, wargograw said:

Yeah it's kinda like you telling me to go root for another team because I'm dissatisfied with the moves of this one, while you've spent months saying people's dissatisfaction is a-ok. Hypocrite. You are really bad at defending yourself intellectually. I'd take up something else. 

You came here with Johnny, he signed in Canada now. Hamilton Tiger cats. Go there and take hue with you

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17 hours ago, Nero said:

If they announce something similar about McDanields, it could mean that Belichick is retiring. I can't see him staying in the Pats and losing two main coaches of his personnel. 

I have been under the impression all along that BB basically has wanted McDaniels to succeed him as HC of the Pats.   What BB really wanted likely was for McDaniels and Garropolo to carry on where he and Brady left off......because BB wanted that to be his legacy.  Now, perhaps, he doesn't care about leaving any legacy  with the Pats...if he thinks he has been screwed over by Kraft and Brady.

He may in fact be trying to see to it that McDaniels...like Patricia, gets an HC job elsewhere.....and then he leaves the Pats high and dry by retiring....or by trying to get the NYGiants gig for himself.

McDaniels name is being touted heavily as the Bears HC.   Which would be a bit ironic....as it was John Fox who replaced him in Denver...and he could replace Fox in Chicago.  McDaniels would then work with Trubisky.

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Niw we have to suffer 7 years before a change? Oy vey...

1 hour ago, The Gipper said:

McDaniels name is being touted heavily as the Bears HC.  

Bears announced KC's OC Matt Nagy as their new HC about the same time you posted this.

 

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18 hours ago, Dutch Oven said:

The Lions are going to the same Patriots coaching well that gave us Charlie Weis, Romeo Crennel, Eric Mangini, Josh McDaniels, et al.

Godspeed, Detroit Lions.

Yeah... those branches have not borne much fruit. Great assistants... not so much HCs.

 

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27 minutes ago, Tour2ma said:

Niw we have to suffer 7 years before a change? Oy vey...

Bears announced KC's OC Matt Nagy as their new HC about the same time you posted this.

 

Alrighty then?    Where, if anywhere, does McDaniels land?  Or does he stay put?

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4 hours ago, Tour2ma said:

Niw we have to suffer 7 years before a change? Oy vey...

Bears announced KC's OC Matt Nagy as their new HC about the same time you posted this.

 

I'm going to definitely keep an eye on how this turns out, seeing that there was rumors that if Hue had gotten fired, Nagy was his probable/possible replacement.

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10 hours ago, The Gipper said:

I have been under the impression all along that BB basically has wanted McDaniels to succeed him as HC of the Pats.  

I think BB wants to be the all time winningest HC.  So he still needs a bunch of 10 win seasons.

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19 hours ago, flyingfooldoug said:

You came here with Johnny, he signed in Canada now. Hamilton Tiger cats. Go there and take hue with you

I came here a year after he got drafted. Always been a Browns fan. Get your facts straight.

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3 hours ago, wargograw said:

I came here a year after he got drafted. Always been a Browns fan. Get your facts straight.

Nope, not until you understand that football is supposed to be all about winning. 

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17 minutes ago, flyingfooldoug said:

Nope, not until you understand that football is supposed to be all about winning. 

Wait wait wait. Me not understanding that (supposedly) means you don't have to use facts? Interesting. Explains alot.

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25 minutes ago, wargograw said:

Wait wait wait. Me not understanding that (supposedly) means you don't have to use facts? Interesting. Explains alot.

Why let the facts get in the way. Never been fishing  either?  Football is about winning. Not some indefinite long term losing strategy playing with numbers. John boy is in Canada now. Maybe he will play nice with you.

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21 hours ago, Dutch Oven said:

I'm going to definitely keep an eye on how this turns out, seeing that there was rumors that if Hue had gotten fired, Nagy was his probable/possible replacement.

Nagy wasn't on my radar, but Reid's coaching tree is really impressive. On NFL Live yesterday Louis Riddick was going on and on yesterday about how Reid prepares his staff for future success.

It’s very possible that the Big Red coaching tree will expand to include eight teams, or 25 percent of the league (H/T Will Brinson of CBS Sports for noticing this first)

There is currently Andy Reid and six of his former underlings as head coaches in the NFL. Chiefs special teams coach Dave Toub is considered a possibility for someone this year. Pat Shurmur is the offensive coordinator of the Vikings and considered a head coaching candidate this year.

If Shurmur or Toub gets a job, that’ll be eight.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/1/9/16863682/andy-reid-coaching-tree-could-stretch-to-more-than-25-percent-of-the-league

11 hours ago, flyingfooldoug said:

Football is about winning. Not some indefinite long term losing strategy playing with numbers.

So step one is "Win" and step two is "See step one"?

Simple plan for simple folks.

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19 hours ago, flyingfooldoug said:

Why let the facts get in the way. Never been fishing  either?  Football is about winning. Not some indefinite long term losing strategy playing with numbers. John boy is in Canada now. Maybe he will play nice with you.

So by your own admission facts don’t matter. Sweet. Good talk. 

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15 hours ago, Tour2ma said:

Nagy wasn't on my radar, but Reid's coaching tree is really impressive. On NFL Live yesterday Louis Riddick was going on and on yesterday about how Reid prepares his staff for future success.

It’s very possible that the Big Red coaching tree will expand to include eight teams, or 25 percent of the league (H/T Will Brinson of CBS Sports for noticing this first)

There is currently Andy Reid and six of his former underlings as head coaches in the NFL. Chiefs special teams coach Dave Toub is considered a possibility for someone this year. Pat Shurmur is the offensive coordinator of the Vikings and considered a head coaching candidate this year.

If Shurmur or Toub gets a job, that’ll be eight.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/1/9/16863682/andy-reid-coaching-tree-could-stretch-to-more-than-25-percent-of-the-league

So step one is "Win" and step two is "See step one"?

Simple plan for simple folks.

Or a guy that studies film along with a stat sheet. Isn't so arrogant that he can listen to others. First in, last out.... Yep simple is as simple does. Why make it complex? KISS?

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2 hours ago, flyingfooldoug said:

Or a guy that studies film along with a stat sheet. Isn't so arrogant that he can listen to others. First in, last out.... Yep simple is as simple does. Why make it complex? KISS?

First, no thanks.

Second, you just complicated things.

Third, that "guy" is called a "scout".

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7 hours ago, Tour2ma said:

First in, last out

Nah.  First in's gotta make the coffee.

We want that in a QB.  (a QB that makes good coffee)

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22 minutes ago, Orion said:

Nah.  First in's gotta make the coffee.

We want that in a QB.  (a QB that makes good coffee)

What about a QB projected to be a nice coffee maker? You don't want to draft a guy who makes great coffee but always makes a mess. 

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55 minutes ago, Orion said:

Nah.  First in's gotta make the coffee.

We want that in a QB.  (a QB that makes good coffee)

Coffee is for Closers.

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