The Gipper Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 The Moody Blues The Cars Dire Straits Bon Jovi Nina Simone Sister Rosetta Tharpe in early influence category (Who is Nina Simone...and why was she chosen?) Induction ceremony is April 14, 2018 Cleveland, Ohio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 14 minutes ago, The Gipper said: The Moody Blues The Cars Dire Straits Bon Jovi Nina Simone Sister Rosetta Tharpe in early influence category (Who is Nina Simone...and why was she chosen?) Induction ceremony is April 14, 2018 Cleveland, Ohio Nina Simone is a dame. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicopeeJohn Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 hour ago, The Gipper said: The Moody Blues The Cars Dire Straits Bon Jovi Nina Simone Sister Rosetta Tharpe in early influence category (Who is Nina Simone...and why was she chosen?) Induction ceremony is April 14, 2018 Cleveland, Ohio Who knows what the criteria the definitions are. Biggest surprise, for me, is The Moody Blues not being inducted earlier. Nina Simone was some type of heroine-infused, jazz (?) singer who - supposedly - was an inspiration to Black America. Netflix had a documentary about her. I lasted 15 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 And with this announcement....we must conduct the obligatory poll: Who has been snubbed so far? Who do you think should be in that has not been put in. The Moody Blues were always high on this sort of list.....but not that is over. Who now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 Nina Simone the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductee to satisfy the music business version of the Rooney Rule. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 13 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: Nina Simone the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductee to satisfy the music business version of the Rooney Rule. WSS I basically agree....except that you could have put in much more well known (and more deserving?) acts than her. Including the following who have sold over 100 million records...and who ARE eligible for inclusion: Mariah Carey (she is like half and half..no?) Whitney Houston (how is it that Nina Simone is considered more "rock n roll" than the above two?) Barry White. Also....here is a list of all the other artists that have sold over 100 million records, yet who are not in the RRHOF: Celine Dion Frank Sinatra Barbara Streisand Phil Collins (as solo) Metallica The Backstreet Boys Garth Brooks Kenny Rogers Julio Iglesias The Carpenters Def Leppard Cher (and or Sonny and Cher) Olivia Newton John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 Just now, The Gipper said: I basically agree....except that you could have put in much more well known acts than her. Including the following who have sold over 100 million records: Mariah Carey (she is like half and half..no?) Whitney Houston (how is it that Nina Simone is considered more "rock n roll" than the above two?) Barry White. Also....here is a list of all the other artists that have sold over 100 million records, yet who are not in the RRHOF: Celine Dion Frank Sinatra Barbara Streisand Phil Collins (as solo) Metallica The Backstreet Boys Garth Brooks Kenny Rogers Julio Iglesias The Carpenters Def Leppard Cher (and or Sonny and Cher) Olivia Newton John Then of course it's the age-old argument what is rock and roll? Who qualifies and who doesn't? I'd say there are plenty of guys who don't but it's such a blurry line. Is Charles Mingus jazz? Is Kenny G? Is Miles Davis? Chuck Mangione? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 What about this guy that just died: Johnny Hallyday. He was like the biggest rock n roll icon in France. It is said he essentially imported Rock n Roll to France. (or..is the RRHOF only limited to people who have 'made it" in the USA?) Has anyone heard anything by this guy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Hallyday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: Then of course it's the age-old argument what is rock and roll? Who qualifies and who doesn't? I'd say there are plenty of guys who don't but it's such a blurry line. Is Charles Mingus jazz? Is Kenny G? Is Miles Davis? Chuck Mangione? WSS Well, with some of the acts I mentioned, I don't think we have to have that argument. For many of them, the question is where is the line between Rock and Pop? Celine Dion, Cher, Carey, Whitney Barbara...all major "Pop" stars...but get no run from the RRHOF. Then you go to early influences. Wouldn't Sinatra at least fall into that category if now where else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 Then you have the question of what is country and what is rock. Garth Brooks, Kenny Rogers, Willie Nelson are not in the RRHOF.....but Johnny Cash is. And Hank Williams is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 Also.....here were the Finalists: Bon Jovi Kate Bush The Cars Depeche Mode Dire Straits Eurythmics The J. Geils Band Judas Priest LL Cool J MC5 The Meters The Moody Blues Radiohead Rage Against the Machine Rufus featuring Chaka Khan Nina Simone Sister Rosetta Tharpe Link Wray The Zombies [146] Any travesty of justice here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted December 14, 2017 Report Share Posted December 14, 2017 They really should change the name to the "Music Hall of Fame".. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted December 14, 2017 Report Share Posted December 14, 2017 What is or isn't rock is going to be harder to tell as the years go on. The RRHOF was founded in 1983, but since then, more genres have appeared, and though they may not resemble rock at first listening, they exist thanks to it and keep some of its heritage. Imagine if there was a Classic Music Hall of Fame: few people write something similar to Classic Music nowadays, still there are the roots of most of the music we listen to. At the same time, music changes and the mainstream varies as the years go, so if the RRHOF still wants to be popular in the news, they're going to start inducting people that current generations of music listeners know about. That being said, of the finalists I give recognition to Radiohead and Rage Against the Machine. Radiohead could be considered closer to Pop, but RATM is a great mix of powerful Rock riffs with Rap, a great original and succesful combo, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2017 Just now, Westside Steve said: Then people will be bitching that Franz Liszt, Scott Joplin or or Debussy has been snubbed... WSS Rock me Amadeus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 On 12/13/2017 at 12:54 PM, The Gipper said: I basically agree....except that you could have put in much more well known (and more deserving?) acts than her. Including the following who have sold over 100 million records...and who ARE eligible for inclusion: Mariah Carey (she is like half and half..no?) Whitney Houston (how is it that Nina Simone is considered more "rock n roll" than the above two?) Barry White. Also....here is a list of all the other artists that have sold over 100 million records, yet who are not in the RRHOF: Celine Dion Frank Sinatra Barbara Streisand Phil Collins (as solo) Metallica The Backstreet Boys Garth Brooks Kenny Rogers Julio Iglesias The Carpenters Def Leppard Cher (and or Sonny and Cher) Olivia Newton John Metallica was inducted back in 2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 2 hours ago, jbluhm86 said: Metallica was inducted back in 2009. I thought they had been. I must have overlooked them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicopeeJohn Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 On 12/13/2017 at 1:01 PM, The Gipper said: What about this guy that just died: Johnny Hallyday. He was like the biggest rock n roll icon in France. It is said he essentially imported Rock n Roll to France. (or..is the RRHOF only limited to people who have 'made it" in the USA?) Has anyone heard anything by this guy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Hallyday I say he should be in. Of course there are many acts in the HOF that aren't American. However, they have achieved commercial/critical success in U.S.A. The R&R HOF appears to have a blind spot in this regard. "During a career spanning 57 years, he released 79 albums and sold more than 80 million records worldwide, mainly in the French-speaking world, making him one of the best-selling artists in France and in the world.[5] He won 5 diamond albums, 40 golden albums, 22 platinum albums and 10 Music Victories.[6] He sang nearly 1,000 songs and performed 540 duets with 187 artists. Credited for his strong voice and his spectacular shows, he sometimes arrived by entering a stadium through the crowd and one time by jumping from a helicopter above the Stade de France, where he has performed 9 times. Among his 3,257 shows completed in 187 tours, the most memorable were at Bercy in 1993, at the Stade de France in 1998 (just after France's win in the Football World Cup) and at the Eiffel Tower in 2000, which are all regarded as record-breaking performances in term of ticket sales for a French artist. A million spectators gathered to see his performance at the Eiffel Tower, joined by 9 million more watching on TV." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 MC5 Black Sabbath credits them as part of their sound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 Yea, if they don't make it in the US....they likely get no consideration. I don't know. There are others....like a guy named Cliff Richards......big in the UK,. but here, pretty much zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 Rock and Roll is dead. There are no more great bands. Music today sucks balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2017 On 12/23/2017 at 5:49 PM, DieHardBrownsFan said: Rock and Roll is dead. There are no more great bands. Music today sucks balls. See #1: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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