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4 hours ago, hoorta said:

You can't hardly defend the worst starting QB in the NFL- and it's not even close. 

Triblowski might actually have worse stats than Kizer...but its basically dog shit vs. horse shit at this point.   Kinda like comparing the 3 QB's we have.   Dog shit, horse shit, and donkey shit.   Doesn't matter which one...its all shit.

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1 minute ago, Mark O said:

I see you continue to ignore the horrific INT your boyfriend Hogan threw against Baltimore that led to 7 points for the other team.    I was really looking to hear your excuses for that across his body panic mode pass into triple coverage and running away from pressure that wasn't there when he bailed on the pocket.   But like most trolls..you'll just keep spewing the same nonsense over and over and telling us how Hogan is the next Matt Ryan. 

I already addressed this after it happened. 

I told you that Duke should have continued his route out into the flat, he stopped short and by that time the ball was gone, too late and Duke is too short to recover. 

 

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1 minute ago, Mark O said:

Triblowski might actually have worse stats than Kizer...but its basically dog Sheet vs. horse Sheet at this point.   Kinda like comparing the 3 QB's we have.   Dog Sheet, horse Sheet, and donkey Sheet.   Doesn't matter which one...its all Sheet.

Correction. Kizer is Dog Sheet and Kessler is Horse Sheet. Hogan? "The Sheet". 

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1 minute ago, PoeticG said:

I already addressed this after it happened. 

I told you that Duke should have continued his route out into the flat, he stopped short and by that time the ball was gone, too late and Duke is too short to recover. 

 

Wrong play assclown.  Watch the video I posted.   Duke isn't the intended receiver and your boyfriend throws across his body into triple coverage and panicking and running out of the pocket away from pressure that isn't even there.     You're so blinded by your love of this shitty ass QB that you are defending things that didn't even happen.    YOU brought up the TD drive against the Ravens...wonderful.....care to discuss his shitty throw that cost the team the same points he led us to?    

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3 minutes ago, PoeticG said:

Correction. Kizer is Dog Sheet and Kessler is Horse Sheet. Hogan? "The Sheet". 

shit...shit and more shit.   When he's released in the offseason are you going to go be a fan of that team?   Not since the JFF fagboys around here have we had such ridiculous blind loyalty to a below average QB.

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1 minute ago, Mark O said:

Wrong play assclown.  Watch the video I posted.   Duke isn't the intended receiver and your boyfriend throws across his body into triple coverage and panicking and running out of the pocket away from pressure that isn't even there.     You're so blinded by your love of this shitty butt QB that you are defending things that didn't even happen.    YOU brought up the TD drive against the Ravens...wonderful.....care to discuss his shitty throw that cost the team the same points he led us to?    

My bad asshat, I thought you were referring to the pick 6 against the Texans. 

If I recall correctly Hogan led a TD drive, A FG and then we had the Int that lead to points. Sometimes those things happen, even to the best QBs. 

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Anyone that even slightly researches the facts knows that Hogan is an extremely accurate passer, he has been and always will be. It's his footwork that needed coaching. When he put emphasis on his mechanics he's on the money, on time and with touch. That is something that you can fix. Hogan would benefit from having Gordon, Coleman and Britt out there. Since you like to bring up the Texans game so much MO, do you think Kizer would have done any better that game at QB? Do you think that we had a chance to win that game, regardless of who was QB? You don't put any of the 12 point loss on the Defense that gave up huge plays to a rookie QB? You don't think that having Hogan try to beat Houston in a shootout, on the road, with no WRs was asking a little too much for his first start?? You don't think that any of that had anything to do with his performance then, right??

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2 hours ago, Tour2ma said:

You've grown to be very annoying in a very short time.

I learned it from watching you guys all these years ;) Start Hogan. Let's attempt to win and not go 0-16. I know you all want this #1 pick so bad but we suck at drafting anyways. I don't get the hate. He has the best QBR on the team and is always very exciting when he steps in the game. Garbage time?? Like I said. If it's so easy to score points in garbage time then why ain't kizer doing it? One start and this guy is not the quarterback of the future yet kizer gets 11 and some of us are not sure yet? Get the funk out of here. 

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2 hours ago, PoeticG said:

Anyone that even slightly researches the facts knows that Hogan is an extremely accurate passer, he has been and always will be. It's his footwork that needed coaching. When he put emphasis on his mechanics he's on the money, on time and with touch. That is something that you can fix. Hogan would benefit from having Gordon, Coleman and Britt out there. Since you like to bring up the Texans game so much MO, do you think Kizer would have done any better that game at QB? Do you think that we had a chance to win that game, regardless of who was QB? You don't put any of the 12 point loss on the Defense that gave up huge plays to a rookie QB? You don't think that having Hogan try to beat Houston in a shootout, on the road, with no WRs was asking a little too much for his first start?? You don't think that any of that had anything to do with his performance then, right??

I really wish you would get leprosy in your fingers. 

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On 12/2/2017 at 4:29 PM, Richiswhere said:

LOL yeah i bet all Giants fan hope the Browns go that route

if you ever left your trailer park and traveled east about 8 hours you might get a whiff of what giant's fans think.

go root for conyers jr. next draft.

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47 minutes ago, LogicIsForSquares said:

I really wish you would get leprosy in your fingers. 

That's a little bit mean... Maybe a case of the crabs might be more fitting... He can occupy his fingers there....

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1 hour ago, thomam3 said:

I learned it from watching you guys all these years ;) Start Hogan. Let's attempt to win and not go 0-16. I know you all want this #1 pick so bad but we suck at drafting anyways. I don't get the hate. He has the best QBR on the team and is always very exciting when he steps in the game. Garbage time?? Like I said. If it's so easy to score points in garbage time then why ain't kizer doing it? One start and this guy is not the quarterback of the future yet kizer gets 11 and some of us are not sure yet? Get the funk out of here. 

MHO is most fans have already seen all they can stand of Kizer. Underthrew Gordon, overthrew Gordon (would have been a TD), tossed one in the dirt, got strip sacked from behind, another int. Yawn. I'd give Hogan another chance. 

Mark, sure Hogan looked terrible against the Texans, and has thrown horrible ints- but personally, I'm sick of seeing Kizer do the exact same crap week after week. If you want to talk stats- Kevin is better in completion %, TD\Int ratio, and his less prone to fumble the ball away. Makes faster decisions too. 

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10 minutes ago, nickers said:

That's a little bit mean... Maybe a case of the crabs might be more fitting... He can occupy his fingers there....

now that's mean. had case of that from sticking it in a hooker in 2 mark park wurzburg 1984.

thought the term crabs was just some term used until actually viewed my joint with little MFers crawling through the 80s forest of love. GF at time joined me at hospital (with gun to my back) and enjoyed every minute of me getting tested for other things my dr. mengehle sticking incense sized cotton swab in and down piss hole. swear i think she paid the doc to do it.

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4 minutes ago, hoorta said:

MHO is most fans have already seen all they can stand of Kizer. Underthrew Gordon, overthrew Gordon (would have been a TD), tossed one in the dirt, got strip sacked from behind, another int. Yawn. I'd give Hogan another chance. 

Mark, sure Hogan looked terrible against the Texans, and has thrown horrible ints- but personally, I'm sick of seeing Kizer do the exact same crap week after week. If you want to talk stats- Kevin is better in completion %, TD\Int ratio, and his less prone to fumble the ball away. Makes faster decisions too. 

Exactly Hoorta. Looks like we have about 3 rational fans on this thread. 

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8 minutes ago, hoorta said:

MHO is most fans have already seen all they can stand of Kizer. Underthrew Gordon, overthrew Gordon (would have been a TD), tossed one in the dirt, got strip sacked from behind, another int. Yawn. I'd give Hogan another chance. 

Mark, sure Hogan looked terrible against the Texans, and has thrown horrible ints- but personally, I'm sick of seeing Kizer do the exact same crap week after week. If you want to talk stats- Kevin is better in completion %, TD\Int ratio, and his less prone to fumble the ball away. Makes faster decisions too. 

sorry hoorta and PO and mark but what do you expect from rookie on a busted team?

everyone wanted Goff's head after watching him play what...2 games in his rookie season and now would suck jeff fisher's dork to have him on this squad.

where are your answers/solutions to the QB prob then.....Rosen? Darnold? now that's friggin hilarious. southern cal should worry about n. korea and wildfires and leave football to those who can out out in the snow snow in short shorts.

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8 minutes ago, miktoxic said:

sorry hoorta and PO and mark but what do you expect from rookie on a busted team?

everyone wanted Goff's head after watching him play what...2 games in his rookie season and now would suck jeff fisher's dork to have him on this squad.

where are your answers/solutions to the QB prob then.....Rosen? Darnold? now that's friggin hilarious. southern cal should worry about n. korea and wildfires and leave football to those who can out out in the snow snow in short shorts.

Something a few steps above horrendous Mik. He's playing behind our multi-million dollar O-line, and 1\2 the time he can't hit the broadside of a barn. Another turnover in the Red Zone is almost as sure as the sun coming up in the morning. To compare him to Goff? OK, Goff better TD\Int ratio, better QBR. 

FWIW, I saw plenty of Kizer at Notre Dame, and Rosen is so far ahead of Deshone on the college level- it's ridiculous. There's a reason Kizer was the 4th qb taken this spring- we went shopping the bargain bin again hoping we'd luck out. Snake eyes Mik. I called it before we drafted him. 

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1 minute ago, hoorta said:

Something a few steps above horrendous Mik. He's playing behind our multi-million dollar O-line, and 1\2 the time he can't hit the broadside of a barn. Another turnover in the Red Zone is almost as sure as the sun coming up in the morning. To compare him to Goff? OK, Goff better TD\Int ratio, better QBR. 

FWIW, I saw plenty of Kizer at Notre Dame, and Rosen is so far ahead of Deshone on the college level- it's ridiculous. There's a reason Kizer was the 4th qb taken this spring- we went shopping the bargain bin again hoping we'd luck out. Snake eyes Mik. I called it before we drafted him. 

yes you did sir. but i don't hate the player.....i hate the game.

too many years of passing on good<potentially great frnchise QBs and to settle for Rosen? what another 2 years for Hue or whoever else to sit and study a guy who's not even playing? another 5 year cycle of rebuilding? another bust?

our multi-million dollar OL can't block a punch or a kick and our running game and QB's rating proves that...........unless your saying every offensive weapon we have blows. when's the last time we had a 1k rusher.....touchdown tommy or the other white guy who is now out of football as well? where's OUR greg pruitt? OUR griffin? hell, OUR mack and byner?

which is it? i guarantee you if we could run the ball 30x a game kizer's #s would be better, but right now there is no running game safety net for him as given other rookies. who looked better last week, kizer or luck.......exactly.

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51 minutes ago, miktoxic said:

yes you did sir. but i don't hate the player.....i hate the game.

too many years of passing on good<potentially great frnchise QBs and to settle for Rosen? what another 2 years for Hue or whoever else to sit and study a guy who's not even playing? another 5 year cycle of rebuilding? another bust?

our multi-million dollar OL can't block a punch or a kick and our running game and QB's rating proves that...........unless your saying every offensive weapon we have blows. when's the last time we had a 1k rusher.....touchdown tommy or the other white guy who is now out of football as well? where's OUR greg pruitt? OUR griffin? hell, OUR mack and byner?

which is it? i guarantee you if we could run the ball 30x a game kizer's #s would be better, but right now there is no running game safety net for him as given other rookies. who looked better last week, kizer or luck.......exactly.

Yup, plenty to hate the way the Browns are playing this year. 

Nah Mik you just get "your guy". I'd hardly call it "settling" for Rosen- or one of the other top QBs.  Dumb luck says we're overdue getting our stud QB. Yeah- we gifted the Eagles Wentz- they went from 7-9 to world beaters this year. You don't have to draft a RB with the #1 overall either. Even if we had a decent running game, Kizer still holds onto the ball too damn long- there's been plenty of times he's gotten adequate protection and he then proceeds to sail the ball a mile out of bounds, or ten yards over the receiver's head. I've said it before, once you get to the pro level, you're either accurate, or you're not. Rosen has more touch and accuracy than Kizer. You can hate on Mayfield all you want- but the guy is crazy accurate. 

This keeps up, Hue isn't going to be around for a couple more years. 

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Kaaya. Trade crow and barnidge right now for him.

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On 12/3/2017 at 8:27 AM, TexasAg1969 said:

There are several excellent RB's to be had this year, so I would use an early 2nd round pick. Stanford's Love, LSU's Guice, Georgia's Chubb or Michel (7.3 ypc). All are better backs than the Blind Crow. Get the QB and the BPA in the 1st round.

Yep, we're going to have an exciting new RB, and I believe our new rookie will immediately be an upgrade over Crow. Crow just doesn't have the elusiveness required to a consistent threat in the NFL. Especially on a team that has trouble passing the ball. You put Crow on a team like the Patriots or Falcons, and he'd be a very nice player. For a team like us, everyone knows when we're going to run it, and he gets stuffed way too often. 

Right now my favorite QB remains Rosen, but I'd be lying if I said Lamar didn't intrigue me. In fact, Lamar is skyrocketing up my wish list. The more I watch him, and the more I see him PASS the ball, I start to envision what he'd look like in the pros. Some people might compare him to Deshaun Watson (no, not because he's black)  and that would be a mistake because they are immensely different. Watson is a good athlete, but Lamar is a stupid amazing athlete. Watson played 4 years and is a more developed passer. Watson is also regarded as one of the best human beings in earth (not saying Lamar isn't a great guy, I just haven't heard about his maturity). 

Lamar strikes me as the guy that GM's will be too scared to draft, and then regret it for the next 10 years. From the film I've watched, Lamar has multiple concerns passing the ball as you'd expect. He tends to have a very narrow stance before throwing, and then RIGHT before he Socks his arm he'll widen his stance to generate balance and power. It's wasted movement and something he can easily work on. He also doesn't do it EVERY time either. Lamar can throw to just about any part of the field, and I LOVE how he attacks the middle. He throws extremely accurate seam passes, slants, and crosses. He also has the ability to take something off his passes and he doesn't ALWAYS throw bullets. He has a gorgeous deep ball down the sidelines and allows his receivers to run underneath it most of the time. 

Lamar has plenty of concerns, and I don't need to list them all. He also has some aspects of his game that I haven't ever seen before. Similar in some ways to Vick, but different in others. My biggest concern with Lamar is the injury factor. I'd be scared to death that he'd hurt while making a spectacular play. He's pretty good at running out of bounds, but he also likes to run in the middle, and also likes to get the extra yards. I just have this vision of loving his play, his ability, his leadership....and then during the 3rd game of the year...BOOM. Torn ACL. 

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6 hours ago, miktoxic said:

Kaaya. Trade crow and barnidge right now for him.

You want the Browns to trade a player who is a free agent after the season ends and a player that is no longer on the roster.

Even for you, this is impressive.

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15 hours ago, Mark O said:

Triblowski might actually have worse stats than Kizer...but its basically dog Sheet vs. horse Sheet at this point.   Kinda like comparing the 3 QB's we have.   Dog Sheet, horse Sheet, and donkey Sheet.   Doesn't matter which one...its all Sheet.

You stole that from me!!!  :angry:

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15 hours ago, Mark O said:

Sheet...Sheet and more Sheet.   When he's released in the offseason are you going to go be a fan of that team?   Not since the JFF fagboys around here have we had such ridiculous blind loyalty to a below average QB.

How come it doesn't autocorrect for you?  You got special privileges or something?:P

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