mjp28 Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 Former winners of one Most Valuable Player Award, three Cy Young Awards, two Jackie Robinson Rookie of the Year Awards, two World Series MVPs and 34 Gold Glove Awards, plus a member of the 600 Home Run Club and a pitcher whose career spanned a quarter of a century are among 19 new candidates on the 2018 Hall of Fame ballot that is being mailed this week to more than 430 voting members of the BBWAA. The results of the election will be announced by Hall of Fame president Jeff Idelson at 6 p.m. ET, Wednesday, Jan. 24, 2018, live on MLB Network. Third baseman Chipper Jones, fellow infielders Jim Thome and Omar Vizquel and pitchers Jamie Moyer and Johan Santana head the newcomers who will join 14 holdovers from the 2017 ballotingin which first baseman Jeff Bagwell, outfielder Tim Raines and catcher Ivan Rodriguez were elected to the National Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown, N.Y. Candidates must be named on 75 percent of ballots cast by selected BBWAA members with 10 or more consecutive years of Major League Baseball coverage to gain election. Falling five votes short of last year’s total required for election was relief pitcher Trevor Hoffman, who polled 74 percent. Outfielder Vladimir Guerrero came within 15 votes at 71.7 percent. Other players named on more than half the ballots were designated hitter/third baseman Edgar Martinez (58.6), pitcher Roger Clemens (54.1), outfielder Barry Bonds (53.8) and pitcher Mike Mussina (51.8). Players may remain on the ballot for up to 10 years provided they receive at least five percent of the vote. Other holdovers from the 2017 ballot are pitchers Curt Schilling and Billy Wagner, first baseman Fred McGriff, second baseman Jeff Kent and outfielders Manny Ramirez, Gary Sheffield, Sammy Sosa and Larry Walker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted November 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 2018 Hall of Fame ballot Name 2017 votes Percentage Current year on ballot Barry Bonds 238 53.8 6th Chris Carpenter 1st Roger Clemens 239 54.1 6th Johnny Damon 1st Vladimir Guerrero 317 71.1 2nd Livan Hernandez 1st Trevor Hoffman 327 74.0 3rd Orlando Hudson 1st Aubrey Huff 1st Jason Isringhausen 1st Andruw Jones 1st Chipper Jones 1st Jeff Kent 74 16.7 5th Carlos Lee 1st Brad Lidge 1st Edgar Martinez 259 58.6 9th Hideki Matsui 1st Fred McGriff 96 21.7 9th Kevin Millwood 1st Jamie Moyer 1st Mike Mussina 229 51.8 5th Manny Ramirez 105 23.8 2nd Scott Rolen 1st Johan Santana 1st Curt Schilling 199 45.0 6th Gary Sheffield 59 13.3 4th Sammy Sosa 38 8.6 6th Jim Thome 1st Omar Vizquel 1st Billy Wagner 45 10.2 3rd Larry Walker 97 21.9 8th Kerry Wood 1st Carlos Zambrano 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted November 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 Some very deserving names on that list some will make it, some should some for various reasons might never make it. I'd like to see Vizquel, Thome naturally plus Vlad, Hoffman, Edgar, Mcgriff get a shot among others. Some big names on that unofficial "blackball" list! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 Joe Morgan says leave all the steroid cheaters out. But Thome and Omar.....absolutely! Aside from the two Indians, and the steroid cheaters, I would think that the most deserving are Hoffman Guerroro, Schilling and Chipper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillmotion Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 Thome and Omar were both class acts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted November 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 8 hours ago, stillmotion said: Thome and Omar were both class acts Agree there, nice guys even today long removed from their playing days you can't say that about many stars. ALSO MLB can get kindof stingy about handing out HOF winners unlike most other sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 Love both those guys (Thome & Vizquel), but Omar is extra special. As a kid, my first favorite ballplayer was Larry Doby, but, IMHO, Omar Vizquel is the most exciting Indians ballplayer I ever saw. Good luck to them both! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted December 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 14 hours ago, Canton Mike said: Love both those guys (Thome & Vizquel), but Omar is extra special. As a kid, my first favorite ballplayer was Larry Doby, but, IMHO, Omar Vizquel is the most exciting Indians ballplayer I ever saw. Good luck to them both! Mike VIZQUEL is the only professional sports jersey I own that has a player name on it, I used to buy a LOT of Indians merchandise from the now defunct Indians own site, personal, gift and promotional purchases with a site discount plus they threw in a media package and other perks. Well one day I got the #13 jersey thrown in as a free gift which was nice because Omar was my favorite player in that era.....still have it, a keeper! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted December 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 In case you might be interested in sports and in particular CLEVELAND media guides/yearbooks or scorecards etc. from the decades check out: http://sportspaper.info/mlb/teams/indians/press-room-mlb-indians.html I collected scorecards and programs from EVERY game I attended in the 1970s and 1980s at the old Municipal Stadium and some as a kid from the late 1950s and 1960s plus most every ticket stub. Nuts eh? Well opening day NY YANKEES vs CLEVELAND INDIANS ticket stubs are neat, BROWNS tickets too like whole untorn STEELERS vs BROWNS 50 yard line COMPLIMENTARY tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mjp28 Posted January 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 AND THE RESULTS, CONGRATULATIONS TO JIM THOME! MLB.com 7:37 PM ET Below are the results of the BBWAA vote to elect the Baseball Hall of Fame Class of 2018 with vote totals and percentages. A total of 422 ballots were cast, with 317 required for election. Chipper Jones: 410 votes (97.2%)Vladimir Guerrero: 392 votes (92.9%)Jim Thome: 379 votes (89.8%)Trevor Hoffman: 337 votes (79.9%) Edgar Martinez: 297 votes (70.4%) Mike Mussina: 268 votes (63.5%) Roger Clemens: 242 votes (57.3%) Barry Bonds: 238 votes (56.4%) Curt Schilling: 216 votes (51.2%) Omar Vizquel: 156 votes (37.0%) <--- long road for Omar? Larry Walker: 144 votes (34.1%) Fred McGriff: 98 votes (23.2%) Manny Ramirez: 93 votes (22.0%) Jeff Kent: 61 votes (14.5%) Gary Sheffield: 47 votes (11.1%) Billy Wagner: 47 votes (11.1%) Scott Rolen: 43 votes (10.2%) Sammy Sosa: 33 votes (7.8%) Andruw Jones: 31 votes (7.3%) Jamie Moyer: 10 votes (2.4%) Johan Santana: 10 votes (2.4%) Johnny Damon: 8 votes (1.9%) Hideki Matsui: 4 votes (0.9%) Chris Carpenter: 2 votes (0.5%) Kerry Wood: 2 votes (0.5%) Livan Hernandez: 1 vote (0.2%) Carlos Lee: 1 vote (0.2%) Orlando Hudson: 0 votes Aubrey Huff: 0 votes Jason Isringhausen: 0 votes Brad Lidge: 0 votes Kevin Millwood: 0 votes Carlos Zambrano: 0 votes All candidates who received less than 5 percent of the vote on ballots cast will be removed from future BBWAA consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted January 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 WHY NOT? LOOKING AHEAD A BIT..... 2019Favorites: Rivera, Edgar Martinez Too close to call: Andy Pettitte, Roy Halladay Other possibilities: Todd Helton, Lance Berkman, Roy Oswalt......oh and Travis Hafner will be in the class Relievers historically have been a tough sell to voters. Not this time. Rivera's 652 regular-season saves and 0.70 postseason ERA are the gold standard for closers. He will sail in. Halladay and Pettitte have Hall of Fame credentials, and they will be interesting test cases given the shifting standards for starting pitchers. This will be Edgar Martinez's final year on the ballot. His case is rock solid, and based on the surge that Raines got in his final year, it's not hard to imagine Martinez getting pushed over the top in a similar fashion....... 2020Favorites: Jeter Too close to call: Larry Walker Other possibilities: Bonds, Clemens, Schilling, Mussina Jeter could very well be the first unanimous pick in history, if Rivera doesn't grab that honor in 2019. Walker (72.6 WAR) has never cracked 23 percent, and this would be his final year on the ballot. He has a strong case based on advanced metrics, but the boost his numbers got from playing in Coors Field seems to have hurt his candidacy. This will also be another litmus test for Bonds and Clemens. 2021Favorites: None. Too close to call: Bonds, Clemens, Schilling, Mussina Other possibilities: Torii Hunter, Tim Hudson, Mark Buehrle Hunter, Hudson and Buehrle are the best of the first-time candidates, and all are long shots despite distinguished careers. As a result, this sets up to be a year to clear some of the backlog with Bonds, Clemens and Schilling in their ninth years on the ballot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 Omar needs to make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted July 29, 2018 Report Share Posted July 29, 2018 Welcome to Cooperstown Baseball HOF! Jim Thome, Allen Trammell, Chipper Jones & Jack Morris.Thanks for the childhood memories you inspired.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted July 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2018 July 29, 2018 after the INDIANS game today I switched over to the MLB broadcast and the end of Jim Thome's speech. He is the class of the 6 person class of 2018 and in as a Cleveland Indian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 Anyone who knows baseball would have voted for Omar as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted July 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 1 hour ago, The Gipper said: Anyone who knows baseball would have voted for Omar as well. We got spoiled watching one of the best glovemen EVER to play shortstop but he does have a climb yet. I do believe class and character will mean more coming out of the PED era, just ask Mcguire, Bonds, Sosa among others. Edgar Martinez: 297 votes (70.4%)Mike Mussina: 268 votes (63.5%)Roger Clemens: 242 votes (57.3%)Barry Bonds: 238 votes (56.4%)Curt Schilling: 216 votes (51.2%)Omar Vizquel: 156 votes (37.0%) <--- long road for Omar?Larry Walker: 144 votes (34.1%) But we'll see, Omar in two or three years? GO TRIBE, again: 2019 Top newcomers: Mariano Rivera, Roy Halladay, Todd Helton, Lance Berkman, Andy Pettitte, Roy OswaltTop holdovers: Edgar Martinez, Mike Mussina, Roger Clemens, Barry Bonds, Curt SchillingMost likely to be elected: Rivera, Halladay, MartinezFalling off: Fred McGriff Having received 70.4% in this year's election, Martinez is well positioned for 2019, his final year of eligibility. Stop me if you've heard this one, but 19 out of the 20 candidates to receive at least 70% and return to the ballot the following year (instead of aging off) were elected, with Jim Bunning the exception (twice). This will complete a remarkable comeback for Martinez, who in 2015 received just 27.0% and then had his remaining eligibility cut from nine years to four....... 2020 Top newcomers: Derek Jeter, Bobby Abreu, Jason Giambi, Paul Konerko, Adam Dunn, Cliff LeeTop holdovers: Mussina, Bonds, Clemens, Schilling, Walker, VizquelMost likely to be elected: Jeter, MussinaFalling off: Walker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted November 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 It's 2 am November 13, 2018 thinking about sports including MLB well...... 2019 HOF chat: 2019 Top newcomers: Mariano Rivera, Roy Halladay, Todd Helton, Lance Berkman, Andy Pettitte, Roy OswaltTop holdovers: Edgar Martinez, Mike Mussina, Roger Clemens, Barry Bonds, Curt SchillingMost likely to be elected: Rivera, Halladay, MartinezFalling off: Fred McGriff Having received 70.4% in this year's election, Martinez is well positioned for 2019, his final year of eligibility. Stop me if you've heard this one, but 19 out of the 20 candidates to receive at least 70% and return to the ballot the following year (instead of aging off) were elected...... so Omar waits again? 2020 Top newcomers: Derek Jeter, Bobby Abreu, Jason Giambi, Paul Konerko, Adam Dunn, Cliff Lee <--- hey former Indian!Top holdovers: Mussina, Bonds, Clemens, Schilling, Walker, Vizquel <--- and maybe one of the top 3 or 5 SS players ever?Most likely to be elected: Jeter, MussinaFalling off: Walker .......Any chance a Cleveland Indian gets in in 2019 or 2020? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 13, 2018 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 OK on Rivera, but with the names you have provided, except for the Steroids freaks like Bonds and Clemens, Omar is about the most deserving to get in. He and Schilling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted November 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 44 minutes ago, The Gipper said: OK on Rivera, but with the names you have provided, except for the Steroids freaks like Bonds and Clemens, Omar is about the most deserving to get in. He and Schilling. 2019 Rivera 2020 Jeter should be near unanimous the rest of the class isn't really that strong -or- is tainted with the stink of steroids.....what can happen if the comissioner looks the other way at 70+ HRs and other abuses. Might actually give Vizquel and maybe even Lee a better shot at getting in, that would be nice following Thome. Now Hafner no shot. Sometimes it really is timing on things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 13, 2018 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 1 hour ago, mjp28 said: 2019 Rivera 2020 Jeter should be near unanimous the rest of the class isn't really that strong -or- is tainted with the stink of steroids.....what can happen if the comissioner looks the other way at 70+ HRs and other abuses. Might actually give Vizquel and maybe even Lee a better shot at getting in, that would be nice following Thome. Now Hafner no shot. Sometimes it really is timing on things. Cliff Lee? Good for a bit......nowhere close to HOF...unlike Omar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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