calfoxwc Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Society has a right to preserve the proper, natural and Godly definition of marriage. Between a man and a woman. Not m-m,w-w,m-sheep,f-orangutan,m-two w, w - 2 m, OR w or m and two giraffes... OR three m or three w... get a grip. Society spoke and so did the Cali Supreme Court. Game over, God and Californians WIN. N - S attracts, S - N attracts. Like I said - natural, universal law. Society has the RIGHT to protect itself from serious abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB&J Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Marriage is a contract. That is all the government should worry about. If a church doesn't want to marry gays, fine, they don't have to. But legal marriage is only a contract between two adults. You wont see people marrying orangutans or sheep because those animals don't have the right to sign a contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Marriage is an officially and lawfully recognized union of a man and a woman. It is not just a "contract". It's a natural, Godly bond with official acknowlegement from the state. Gay marriage - not natural, not Godly. N and S poles attract. Natural law. But to try to justify N-N or S-S attractions is not. Doesn't naturally exist in science. Male-female magnetism. A looooot of folks in liberal goofy California agree, and so does their Supreme Court. Real marriage got law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB&J Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Government is secular (is supposed to be). Godly has nothing to do with it. And if homosexuality is the same as N-N or S-S, and it can't happen in nature... then why does it happen in nature? By your logic their wouldn't be homosexuals, but there definitely are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Why are there unnatural anomalies? Look at DNA, look at the complexity of several factors of human self-actualization. It isn't cut and dried like my "magnetic" analogy... but it justifies not accepting anomalies as standard, normal and Godly and universal. God has a lot to do with it, it's on coins, etc, and this country was created as being influenced by God, in terms of inalienable rights, most notably, freedom of religion. The separation of church and state does not mean the state can infringe on the rights of Americans to express and follow their religious beliefs and activities. It just means the state cannot impose a religion on society. But God can be deemed Holy and Omnipresent etc, in terms of many different religions. God has everything to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mz. Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 And when did they have rights to have Adam marry Steve? or whatever they want. That's something a Retarded 4th grader would say. Grow up. Marriage is an officially and lawfully recognized union of a man and a woman. N and S poles attract. This example you bring up again and again is so pathetic. And I thought you rejected science... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. T Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 For all of those 18,000 queer couples who tied the knot before the law took effect will stay wed. Oh boy' they will breath a sigh of relief and have another parade. Sounds like Prop 8 was put into place just in time. I wonder if the people who advertised the names of all who donated money for the prop 8 will be held liable for googling their names and addresses and putting them on the internet so they would be harassed. what a vindictive bunch of people, and all they say is their about free love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 The legal view of marriage and the religious view of marriage are seperate and different and need to stay that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 The legal view of marriage and the religious view of marriage are seperate and different and need to stay that way. So. Couples sign a partnership agreement and perform a ceremony in whatever church they choose that accepts their choice. If the Roman Catholic church says no too bad. Go to Universal Life. Problem solved? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 They can go to Sweden... it's legal there, I think Say, we haven't heard Heck whine about California being a right wing attack machine. Surprise ! EVEN in CALIFORNIA - they voted down "gay marriage". EVEN the CALIFORNIA SUPREME COURT AGREED. mz the pussy, you're just wrong on this issue, and I still wish I could unthank your post with the SLUR "Retarded" in it. LD and ED and MH kids do NOT deserve to be held up to ridicule as to slur someone you disagree with. You should know better than that, seriously.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Government is secular (is supposed to be). Godly has nothing to do with it. And if homosexuality is the same as N-N or S-S, and it can't happen in nature... then why does it happen in nature? By your logic their wouldn't be homosexuals, but there definitely are. Our government isn't intended to be void of God. Ask the founding fathers if they though homo was cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB&J Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Our government isn't intended to be void of God. Ask the founding fathers if they though homo was cool. Ask the founding fathers if blacks should be equal to whites. Ask them what the role of women should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Fan Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 One of the main issues I have with amendments specifically banning gay marriage is that it is using constitutions to deny or take away rights. I think constitutions should be there to preserve them. Looking at the wording only, that's exactly what they are doing. Whether the right of marriage to exist solely between a man & a woman is a "right," that's another argument. Religiously, spiritually, I agree with the decision, but politically & matter-of-factly, I'd prefer the government not have any jurisdiction over the union between my wife and I nor any other two consenting adults. It also makes sense, to me, that homosexuals should receive health insurance via a working partner, and should be able to file taxes jointly, I just don't know how you make that work logistically w/o allowing civil union (which is what I prefer the gov't to refer to my relationship with my wife as). And again, I don't condone the lifestyle, and will teach my children that it is abnormal, but that they should treat them with the same respect as any other stranger/adult/acquaintance. I think it's a ridiculous notion to define who I am using my sexuality as the forerunner, and find it equally ridiculous when homosexuals do the same. You want it to be a norm in society? Make it a norm within yourself first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Ask the founding fathers if blacks should be equal to whites. Ask them what the role of women should be. They would say they should both be property. They wouldn't say they shouldn't be allowed to marry. Nobody is saying Homosexuals should be property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 They would say they should both be property. They wouldn't say they shouldn't be allowed to marry. Nobody is saying Homosexuals should be property. Who will arrange the cotton once it's been picked??????? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 LOL....I like your humor buddy....to answer the question, I don't have a clue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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