stillmotion Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 3 hours ago, The Gipper said: Well, you know that Sashi has the reputation of wanting to "win every deal". Allegedly that is why the Pats would not deal with him for Garypolo. (though I doubt that is the real reason). But if it is.... Sashi would play hardball. (but then, Sachi may be in no position to play at all, if he is thrown out on his can.) Sashi is a lawyer, of couese he's trying to win every deal or argument to a T. This could be good (and bad) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 2 hours ago, nickers said: I don't know about anyone else.. But I have always viewed Book Smarts and Common sense ,, as two completely different types of intelligences They are... but they are also not mutually exclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 9 hours ago, hoorta said: Stanford's Medical School is considered second only to Harvard's. & Sometimes you can't tell a book by it's cover. We had this doc at a place I worked at, if the first time you'd meet him, you'd think "what a goober." Over the course of several months, from my coworkers found out. He went to Stanford Medical School- okayyyyy. He got a full free ride to Stanford Medical School. Say what? He had the highest score in the country on the MCATs. Makes sense now. Johns Hopkins is probably a more renown medical school and then HarvardJohns Hopkins is probably a more renown medical school and then Harvard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, The Gipper said: Johns Hopkins is probably a more renown medical school and then HarvardJohns Hopkins is probably a more renown medical school and then Harvard I would also add that Case Western Reserve is nothing to sneeze at either.. it's become a Doctor factory... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 C - W - R - UUUUUUUUUUUUuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu... Go Spartans! They are the Spartans... aren't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 47 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: C - W - R - UUUUUUUUUUUUuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu... Go Spartans! They are the Spartans... aren't they? I believe they get the pleasure of losing to Mount Union next week in Round 2 of the DIII playoffs. There's worse fates than being a Case student. You get to go to a world-class university that sits next to Little Italy. Study while eating like a king. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigalow80 Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 Medicine is just like everything else. There are some really good surgeons who come from really good schools and there are some really bad surgeons who come from really good surgeons and vice versa. That's why it's always important to ask local OR nurses who should operate on you. That's just a medical sidebar. Andrew Luck is a tough case study, IMOP. He still is really good assuming his shoulder is healthy and ready to go. However, it seems odd to me that he is seeking alternative medicine, more than likely he is looking for a PRP with stem cell injection which is legal over in Europe but not approved by the FDA here in the states, rather than to have a shoulder scope to actually see what the issue could be. I would be very cautious if I were the browns. Full medicals would have to be given to me before I even make a trade offer. Let's not forget, he just signed a massive contract extension just last year. That's a lot of money and hope to put on a potentially bad shoulder. Now, if it is good to go and their medical team feels he is safe and able to perform at a high level, than I think you have to trust them. But, this could be a high risk situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 32 minutes ago, Bigalow80 said: He still is really good assuming his shoulder is healthy and ready to go. That assumption is doing a lot of heavy lifting.. I think his career is finished thanks to the Ole OL he's had in Indy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Dutch Oven said: I believe they get the pleasure of losing to Mount Union next week in Round 2 of the DIII playoffs. There's worse fates than being a Case student. You get to go to a world-class university that sits next to Little Italy. Study while eating like a king. Having been a Casey in the 70's I know of what you speak... Many was the Sunday 2AM walk from Howe House on the lower quad down Murray Hill Road to Pretti's Bakery. That was the time the Italian loaves began exiting the ovens. Always bought an extra for the walk back. Presti's being open and no worries for the walk were courtesy of a certain ethnic supplement to Cleveland's finest in that area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 2 hours ago, Tour2ma said: Having been a Casey in the 70's I know of what you speak... Many was the Sunday 2AM walk from Howe House on the lower quad down Murray Hill Road to Pretti's Bakery. That was the time the Italian loaves began exiting the ovens. Always bought an extra for the walk back. Presti's being open and no worries for the walk were courtesy of a certain ethnic supplement to Cleveland's finest in that area. I can imagine Murray Hill in the 70s was definitely colorful! Especially considering the on-going Danny Greene situation going on at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 12 hours ago, Dutch Oven said: I can imagine Murray Hill in the 70s was definitely colorful! Especially considering the on-going Danny Greene situation going on at the time. I knew a couple of guys that knew Danny personally, no kidding! Quite an "interesting" and fun guy. I did not know him.....at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 15 hours ago, Tour2ma said: Presti's being open and no worries for the walk were courtesy of a certain ethnic supplement to Cleveland's finest in that area. I don't care what ethnic they were- the inference was they were heavily armed. BTW I heard reports that certain ethnic folks- back in the race riot days of the 60s there were a few machine gun posts up on the hill- no problems were reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 I had a injured shoulder. Torn labrum, torn rotor, torn cartridge plus bone spurs. I had the surgery and went through extensive rehab therapy. It's a good thing that I didn't throw a football or baseball for a living too because as much as the surgery and rehab helped me in regaining my range of motion and strength, it still hurts to throw hard or to get a glass out of a upper kitchen cabinet. Luck will never be what he was before he tore his labrum. That's a tough one and ended more than one athletic career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippinTurtles Posted November 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 Get Luck and sit him for a year. He's the best QB in the AFC in 2 years. He's more talented than Kirk Cousins who's the next top paid QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 4 hours ago, flyingfooldoug said: I had a injured shoulder. Torn labrum, torn rotor, torn cartridge plus bone spurs. I had the surgery and went through extensive rehab therapy. It's a good thing that I didn't throw a football or baseball for a living too because as much as the surgery and rehab helped me in regaining my range of motion and strength, it still hurts to throw hard or to get a glass out of a upper kitchen cabinet. Luck will never be what he was before he tore his labrum. That's a tough one and ended more than one athletic career. Ditto... minus the rotor, cart and spurs... Arthroscopic surgery bought me several comfortable couch potato years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: Ditto... minus the rotor, cart and spurs... Arthroscopic surgery bought me several comfortable couch potato years. I got the scope and fileted. And it helped a whole lot. But it never came back like before the injury. I've seen a few baseball pitchers hang it up after a labrum tear and Luck has it to. He most likely will need to relearn a throwing motion very different from what he used to do. He has a tough road ahead of him career wise. He should take up ....drone racing!!!...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippinTurtles Posted November 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 Dealing for Luck is a MASSIVE gamble. Draft a QB with the first round pick and pray #12 works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, SkippinTurtles said: Dealing for Luck is a MASSIVE gamble. Draft a QB with the first round pick and pray #12 works out. Wait, I'm confused... Are you saying the Browns should trade for Luck AND take a QB #1 overall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 13 hours ago, mjp28 said: I knew a couple of guys that knew Danny personally, no kidding! Quite an "interesting" and fun guy. I did not know him.....at all. I knew some guys that knew Danny Green as well. They liked him. They said Danny Green was The Bomb. (err, or was that Danny Green was going to be bombed?) Well....one or the other. Can't recall specifically right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 11 hours ago, boo fagley said: So what? Ryan Fitzpatrick went to Harvard. You want him too? Elway is not known for being a genius. Look at the cast of bums he drafted to play QB. You don't follow along very well.....the OP said that Andrew LUck was a Stanford numbskull. I pointed out that Stanford may be the premier academic institution in the country.... Besides, everyone know that Harvard takes a back seat to Cornell. But this conversation had nothing to do with football acumem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 5 hours ago, boo fagley said: Makes no sense to trade for a used Andy Luck when the Browns can draft a brand new QB and get him in his prime at probably less money. I went to Carmax. I could buy a spanking new vehicle with 1 mile on it for the same price of their 30,000 mile shined up jalopies. No to QBmax. Just a fact: Nearly half of the Super Bowl winning QBs were not drafted by the team they won the SB with. Just pointing out that sometimes it does not hurt to bring in an experienced guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pikeyM27 Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 For $5m a year Browns might be lucky to get Anderson. You know, the guy who actually won games... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippinTurtles Posted November 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 4 hours ago, Dutch Oven said: Wait, I'm confused... Are you saying the Browns should trade for Luck AND take a QB #1 overall? Yes. The Redskins drafted Kirk Cousins as insurance after trading for RG3. Don't put all your eggs in one basket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, SkippinTurtles said: Yes. The Redskins drafted Kirk Cousins as insurance after trading for RG3. Don't put all your eggs in one basket. Or, maybe we just do what the Skins did: Draft a QB in round one....and another in round 4. It can't hurt......and this FO has certainly blown enough 3rd/4th round picks.....getting another "egg" would be no big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 Sounds like my Rosen/Benkert plan... I would not be shocked if they actually did it. The WR net the cast in 2016 was essentially that approach. And this draft will be the draft to fill our near, QB void. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 5 hours ago, Tour2ma said: Sounds like my Rosen/Benkert plan... I would not be shocked if they actually did it. The WR net the cast in 2016 was essentially that approach. And this draft will be the draft to fill our near, QB void. Interesting I've been thinking along the same lines of 1st overall and a 2nd rounder. It's a deeper class than anyone we have now in that position. EDITL: However if Allen is there to pick in the 2nd, please use it on a WR, FS or some other position of greater need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, boo fagley said: Awesome, you have a 49% chance at winning a Super Bowl. A cursory list - Brady has 5, E Manning has 2, Ben has 2, Wilson has 1, Flacco has 1, Rodgers has 1, Elway has 2. Over the last 15 years the team that drafted its QB has won the Super Bowl. And without one the odds are.... Zero! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 12 hours ago, SkippinTurtles said: Yes. The Redskins drafted Kirk Cousins as insurance after trading for RG3. Don't put all your eggs in one basket. So if the Browns used their #1 overall on a QB, what would you give up to get Luck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 26 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: So if the Browns used their #1 overall on a QB, what would you give up to get Luck? Kizer? WSS the Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 On the other hand not even that unless anybody here sees Andrew Luck as being a crafty old veteran who could mentor our high draft pick. Rather than the guy that never lived up to the hype that he actually is. WSS the Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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