CaineDeSoulis Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 Been watching this guys videos for a little bit and he is making some pretty cool videos dealing with analytics and player performance. Also has made a few videos dealing especially with the Cleveland browns and their previous busts. a Good watch is the 2018 Mid Season QB draft class i'll link it aswell as his main page herehttps://www.youtube.com/user/bigbass141/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaineDeSoulis Posted November 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 He also has an interesting video on Kevin Hogan being a potential better option at QB but not a long term starter, his best comp was a slightly better brian hoyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 I tried... but... ZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Just too damn dry. Spent half the time trying to ID which bars he was talking about and the other half wondering how the percentages are derived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, CaineDeSoulis said: He also has an interesting video on Kevin Hogan being a potential better option at QB but not a long term starter, his best comp was a slightly better brian hoyer Basically what most of us have been saying. Nice long career as a backup QB. Great work if you can get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 12 minutes ago, Mark O said: Basically what most of us have been saying. Nice long career as a backup QB. Great work if you can get it. I listen to some podcasts whose members claim to be "Back up QBs' fans" Good money, low responsabilities, no major risks for your health... They are true heroes worth admiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 Just now, Nero said: I listen to some podcasts whose members claim to be "Back up QBs' fans" Good money, low responsabilities, no major risks for your health... They are true heroes to admire. It's an awesome gig. Derek Anderson is pulling down 2 million per to be Cam's caddy in Carolina. How awesome is that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 1 hour ago, CaineDeSoulis said: Been watching this guys videos for a little bit and he is making some pretty cool videos dealing with analytics and player performance. Also has made a few videos dealing especially with the Cleveland browns and their previous busts. a Good watch is the 2018 Mid Season QB draft class i'll link it aswell as his main page herehttps://www.youtube.com/user/bigbass141/videos Here is what I glean from what he says: A. His top 4 Pro Prospect QBs that he is high on based on his method: Manny Wilkins of Ariz. St. Baker Mayfield Mason Rudolph Trace McSorley B. He thinks Josh Allen will be an absolute bust. C. He think Darnold and Josh Rosen are just "Meh". He likens Rosen to Jay Cutler, and says Darnold has regressed greatly. D. Be wary of Lamar Jackson as a QB. He may be better served in the pros switching to RB E. Three others that may come out on the plus side in the pros are: Luke Falk, Ryan Finley, and JT Barrett F. A couple of Sleepers may be Max Browne and Max Shimonek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 Well... my initial darkhorse scores decently, but my latest isn't even on his board... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: Well... my initial darkhorse scores decently, but my latest isn't even on his board... Well, since that is the case, it is best that you keep those to yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 All will be revealed in good time.... Can the legend continue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaineDeSoulis Posted November 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 He breaks down some analytic stuff on some of our busts and recent picks J Gilbert and Ricardo Louis come to mind. It is showing the stark differances in this FO and the Previous FO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Tour2ma said: All will be revealed in good time.... Can the legend continue? I'm not revealing mine until he succeeds. If he doesn't then I never had one.LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Tour2ma said: All will be revealed in good time.... Can the legend continue? The kid from Virginia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 52 minutes ago, LogicIsForSquares said: The kid from Virginia? Leaker!!! I want.... NO... I DEMAND a Special Prosecutor be appointed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 11 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: Leaker!!! I want.... NO... I DEMAND a Special Prosecutor be appointed! Never mind, everyone. That was fake news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 4 hours ago, LogicIsForSquares said: Never mind, everyone. That was fake news. Yeah, but the fish took the bait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 9 hours ago, CaineDeSoulis said: He also has an interesting video on Kevin Hogan being a potential better option at QB but not a long term starter, his best comp was a slightly better brian hoyer I don't think so, I think that his production rating ranked Hogan with the potential of him possibly being among PROBOWL QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 19 minutes ago, PoeticG said: I don't think so, I think that his production rating ranked Hogan with the potential of him possibly being among PROBOWL QBs. Of course you think that. Jesus dude... Ben Hogan needs to have a restraining order out on you. His own family doesn't love him as much as you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 22 minutes ago, PoeticG said: I don't think so, I think that his production rating ranked Hogan with the potential of him possibly being among PROBOWL QBs. How many Pro Bowl QBs have noodle arms like Hogan does? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Dutch Oven said: How many Pro Bowl QBs have noodle arms like Hogan does? Hogan doesn't have a noodle arm. He has a cannon arm. I think you're thinking of somebody else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 22 minutes ago, PoeticG said: Hogan doesn't have a noodle arm. He has a cannon arm. I think you're thinking of somebody else. Must be his left arm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Tour2ma said: Must be his left arm... You guys can joke and mock all you want. We've all seen the strikes he's thrown. He let a couple sail on him when he was rushed and hit while throwing, however this does not constitute a "noodle arm" as you would say. Hogan has ample arm strength to make ALL the throws required and he has the ability to stretch the field while taking deep shots. He actually has or had the longest completion down field earlier in the season, far surpassing the Kitanic... The cream will rise to the top. Hue can only suppress Hogan for so long. In time it will become self evident, until then carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoolie Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 15 hours ago, CaineDeSoulis said: He also has an interesting video on Kevin Hogan being a potential better option at QB but not a long term starter, his best comp was a slightly better brian hoyer In other words, we are watching bullschidt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillmotion Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 Baker Mayfield baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SD_Tom Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 Hogan has ample arm strength compared to Kessler. That's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 10 hours ago, PoeticG said: You guys can joke and mock all you want. The cream will rise to the top. Hue can only suppress Hogan for so long. In time it will become self evident, until then carry on. Appreciate the invite and the spirit, Po... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 What about this Manny Wilkins guy who this video says may actually be the best QB coming out? I have heard nothing on him....there has been no run. Haven't seen him play. Could he be a sleeper? Or should he be considered a big timer for the next draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaineDeSoulis Posted November 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 Wilkins is going to need to look good for the rest of the year and possibly next year and we dont know what his High School Production was. The youtuber did not really think it was worth the time to go over that stuff just yet with Wilkins so we should see how he looks end of year. The QB's you should focus on are the ones with 90+ scores in multiple years or close I'd look at Baker Mayfield, Danny Etling, Eric Dungey, JT Barrett,Jake Browning,Josh Rosen,Luke Falk, Manny Wilkins,Mason Rudolph Unfortunately Draft Breakdown now requires a membership of 2$ a month but meh i enjoy watching the tape and look foward to looking through these guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaineDeSoulis Posted November 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 Looking at that above list Manny is very very lithe and i wonder if he will translate to the next level, Etling appears to have a subpar arm aswell, Eric Dungey looked like a late round pick that can develop, very reminiscent of watching kizers tape, appears to be more athletic and has good size 6'4" 225 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaineDeSoulis Posted November 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 Here is another pretty solid video of a breakdown of our 2017 draft class, Sorry for the peppers/kizer fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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