Kvoethe Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 Im a little worried Hue is going to have to apologize for saying having Gordon back is like having a new toy to play with. Or is it ok since... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Kvoethe said: Im a little worried Hue is going to have to apologize for saying having Gordon back is like having a new toy to play with. Or is it ok since... Since he's black? Managers and coaches use the "new toy to play with" line all the time. There is absolutely nothing wrong with saying that. On another note, I have claimed Gordon in all three of my fantasy leagues for a postseason boost. Looking forward to playing with my new toy. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvoethe Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 I know it doesn't mean anything, but the MSM is going to be all over it. Someone will say its racciss You don't remember the movie? "The Toy"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 28 minutes ago, Kvoethe said: I know it doesn't mean anything, but the MSM is going to be all over it. Someone will say its racciss You don't remember the movie? "The Toy"? I do remember the movie. I don't know what MSM is though. And I think you are the only jackwad making a racial connection to Hue's comment. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Kvoethe said: I know it doesn't mean anything, but the MSM is going to be all over it. Someone will say its raccist You don't remember the movie? "The Toy"? I saw nothing racial in it. On the other hand, I could see where some could think it was a little gay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvoethe Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 Msm main stream media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Zombo said: I do remember the movie. I don't know what MSM is though. And I think you are the only jackwad making a racial connection to Hue's comment. Zombo Main Stream Media. You know, where you get actual news and information.... People that don't like MSM are like the three monkeys, hear no evil, speak no evil, see no evil. They don't like reality.....like the monkeys they hide their senses from it, and prefer getting horseshite shoved up their arses as their only method of absorbing information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvoethe Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 Hahahhaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvoethe Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 Lol i hope you were kidding whe you said actual news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 28 minutes ago, Kvoethe said: Lol i hope you were kidding whe you said actual news I am assuming you are one who gets his information from his ampulla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillmotion Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 2 hours ago, Zombo said: Since he's black? Managers and coaches use the "new toy to play with" line all the time. There is absolutely nothing wrong with saying that. On another note, I have claimed Gordon in all three of my fantasy leagues for a postseason boost. Looking forward to playing with my new toy. Zombo True, lots of coaches use that analogy. To me, it's still funny though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 Josh Gordon: So there's 6 games left. Unless our brain-trust are TOTAL fools, he doesn't play this week. (...and OUR brain-trust ALWAYS leaves doubt about being TOTAL fools) Therefore, we own him for 2018. As for us negotiating a contract renewal...that will depend on how he does in these final weeks of the season...including his time on the field. It will also depend on his offseason and if he can stay on the straight and narrow. I wouldn't rush into a contract signing session with him. I don't know how far one can go with structuring a contract with 'if-then' statements....but we need some assurance that we're not wasting more time and effort on a 3-time-loser to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 Don't worry, whether he plays or not this week is not on our brain-trusts. He started practice with the team today, but he cannot play till next week. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000870891/article/josh-gordon-to-be-reinstated-on-conditional-basis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvoethe Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 If coach was white the liberals would be out with pitchforks at the toy reference... relax man it was just a joke. But in america you cant make jokes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Kvoethe said: If coach was white the liberals would be out with pitchforks at the toy reference... relax man it was just a joke. But in america you cant make jokes Nobody has any fuyucking clue what you are talking about with this "toy" reference and how it pertains to race. Is everything for you an opportunity to race bait? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 Just watched video of the Browns WRs catching passes on practice. They had a lefty throwing the passes. Isn’t it different catching a pass from a lefty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 2 hours ago, Nero said: Don't worry, whether he plays or not this week is not on our brain-trusts. Thank goodness! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 I'm so proud of Josh Gordon. All the time invested in praying for him and supporting him is about to finally pay off! We are truly getting a player that is BETTER than any first round draft pick in a very long time. Gordon is a transcendent player - he akin to LeBron James to football. Kid is a godsend and just what we've needed since he left. We haven't barley won a game since he left. Now is the time, things are about to change! ...if we could just get Hogan in the game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 11 minutes ago, PoeticG said: I'm so proud of Josh Gordon. All the time invested in praying for him and supporting him is about to finally pay off! We are truly getting a player that is BETTER than any first round draft pick in a very long time. Gordon is a transcendent player - he akin to LeBron James to football. Kid is a godsend and just what we've needed since he left. We haven't barley won a game since he left. Now is the time, things are about to change! ...if we could just get Hogan in the game... Kids are told not to say the F-word. Are we going to have to give you the same treatment with the H-word? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Nero said: Kids are told not to say the F-word. Are we going to have to give you the same treatment with the H-word? Haha, yeah it sucks, I know. But I just gotta state it as it is man. I gotta be true to myself. So my thinking is; If I'm the coach of this team, at 1-25, I'm taking every opportunity to try anything, turn over every rock, check every nook and cranny. If there is even the slimmest chance of finding a gem, I'm fittin to dig a hole. I do not feel as if the Hogan approach has been sufficiently satisfied, there are still a lot of unanswered questions and potential there. I mean the dude makes plays. Why NOT run Hogan in a few WildDawg formations a game to throw off a Defense? He CAN do that. I don't care if he's the starter or plays 10 snaps a game, but he can make plays. I don't think that he has been given the correct assessment or opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 3 hours ago, Browns149 said: Just watched video of the Browns WRs catching passes on practice. They had a lefty throwing the passes. Isn’t it different catching a pass from a lefty? http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000881458/article/hes-back-josh-gordon-returns-to-browns-practice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 36 minutes ago, PoeticG said: Haha, yeah it sucks, I know. But I just gotta state it as it is man. I gotta be true to myself. So my thinking is; If I'm the coach of this team, at 1-25, I'm taking every opportunity to try anything, turn over every rock, check every nook and cranny. If there is even the slimmest chance of finding a gem, I'm fittin to dig a hole. I do not feel as if the Hogan approach has been sufficiently satisfied, there are still a lot of unanswered questions and potential there. I mean the dude makes plays. Why NOT run Hogan in a few WildDawg formations a game to throw off a Defense? He CAN do that. I don't care if he's the starter or plays 10 snaps a game, but he can make plays. I don't think that he has been given the correct assessment or opportunity. If I recall right, many people in this board - I would even dare to say the majority - were OK giving Hogan a chance as a starter vs the Texans, and he undeperformed and lost the job. The same people who were OK giving him a chance in the first place, decided that benching him in favour of Kizer was the right decisions. I know the results haven't come and we still winless, but you are the only one who thinks that Hogan would be the solution, or at least a better option, and whereas I love the enthusiasm and optimism you show in your posts, mentioning Hogan in every one of them just makes you lose credit. Heck, I think you have an interesting approach to the draft (thread 'Should we draft a qb with #1?') but as you mentioned Hogan and keeping all three QBs I think that's the only thing that caught the eye of everyone in your post. You're just going to make everyone run out of their patience. In my opinion, Hogan is a 5th round that didn't make the roster in an Andy Reid team, who I think knows a lot about QBs, and could be a decent QB, who can play well for a few snaps, but cannot play as starter. It happens with a lot of QBs, it's hard to play at pro level the whole game during all the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 29 minutes ago, Nero said: If I recall right, many people in this board - I would even dare to say the majority - were OK giving Hogan a chance as a starter vs the Texans, and he undeperformed and lost the job. The same people who were OK giving him a chance in the first place, decided that benching him in favour of Kizer was the right decisions. I know the results haven't come and we still winless, but you are the only one who thinks that Hogan would be the solution, or at least a better option, and whereas I love the enthusiasm and optimism you show in your posts, mentioning Hogan in every one of them just makes you lose credit. Heck, I think you have an interesting approach to the draft (thread 'Should we draft a qb with #1?') but as you mentioned Hogan and keeping all three QBs I think that's the only thing that caught the eye of everyone in your post. You're just going to make everyone run out of their patience. In my opinion, Hogan is a 5th round that didn't make the roster in an Andy Reid team, who I think knows a lot about QBs, and could be a decent QB, who can play well for a few snaps, but cannot play as starter. It happens with a lot of QBs, it's hard to play at pro level the whole game during all the season. As I said before you joined the board; Andy Reed's team had 4 or 5 QBs on it... and a few of those guys were established and pretty good in their own right. Hogan was probably going to go to the practice squad but decided on coming here because he felt that the opportunity to get a chance with our QB problems was the best chance. He only got in a half a game last year vs the bengals and set a Browns Franchise record- that's pretty good for a first crack at it, Kizer hasn't approached a single record except for the worst ever... This year he performed well in the backup job every chance he had. Something is amiss here, I can smell it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 40 minutes ago, PoeticG said: As I said before you joined the board; Andy Reed's team had 4 or 5 QBs on it... and a few of those guys were established and pretty good in their own right. Hogan was probably going to go to the practice squad but decided on coming here because he felt that the opportunity to get a chance with our QB problems was the best chance. He only got in a half a game last year vs the bengals and set a Browns Franchise record- that's pretty good for a first crack at it, Kizer hasn't approached a single record except for the worst ever... This year he performed well in the backup job every chance he had. Something is amiss here, I can smell it. The Andy Reid Chiefs were so stocked at QB in 2016 that they gave away the proverbial farm to trade up for Pat Mahomes in 2017. I seriously wish there was a way to put a shock collar on you... it would go off every time you wrote the name Hogan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 You can keep tryin Dutch but you'll never silence my free speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 Roger Good-hell your still a HoMo..Oct. 31st ya signed Gordon's reinstatement papers..Nov.22-yea!! Josh can practice with his new teammates..Dec. 3rd were going to put you on a cross country plane. You'll be playing the Chargers but (to f with you even more) we moved them to a LA rental stadium holding 35K ..Who's the real dope here? EDIT--All we can really do, is prey Josh finally got his head screwed (ahhh scratch screwed..bad josh word) on straight..It's probably not even fair to guess what talent Josh can bring this team? But what this guy has done to put himself to today from where he has been most his life.. Welcome Back to real football Flash.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 8 minutes ago, PoeticG said: You can keep tryin Dutch but you'll never silence my free speech. You do realize Hogan's stint with the Browns is ending in six weeks, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: You do realize Hogan's stint with the Browns is ending in six weeks, right? Probably not. But if it makes you feel better, tarry on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 This FO is analytic based and Hogan is the only viable starter. The FO probably pushed for Hue to start Hogan and Hue set him up. And since the FO didn't get McCarron for Hue, Hue is gonna bench Kevin to spite the FO. It's a power struggle. The FO is right and my money is on cutting Kessler, who is a waste at this point when Kevin is better and they can resign him to a new deal and BACKUP with Starter Potential. Ala the Patriots model. Maybe they are sacrificing Kizer during the suckage and keeping Hogan healthy for next year... who knows anymore. But make no mistake, Crazy Kev is the best QB we got! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 7 hours ago, Kvoethe said: If coach was white the liberals would be out with pitchforks at the toy reference... relax man it was just a joke. But in america you cant make jokes Nope, no one would care. There is not a racial tone to it at all. I remember when the Rays brought David Price up at the end of pennant race, Joe Madden said he had a new toy to play with in his bullpen. I thought it was a cool statement, but didn't then, and don't now, see any racial tone to it whatsoever. Coaches refer to players in a similar manner all the time. In fact, I believe Gregg Williams said some about new toys for his defense when we drafted Garret and Peppers in the first round. Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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