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[Tour2ma]

Frustrating to be sure... Kizer's touch is still not where it needs to be... especially on designed plays like the fade to Njoku which needed to arrive at him higher. Dropping it to his belly cannot be the way it was designed. But his touch has improved some. I can only recall one, drop-inducing, 10-yd fastball (to Devalve IIRC). And he was just off with a touch checkdown to Vitale.

Once Louis' fade attempt was stuffed, it's on Kizer to see it and throw the backshoulder. He held the ball long enough to see that... it's what Hue reacted to immediately on the sideline.

 

On the sneak... I still believe that if Hue calls a play where the sneak is an audible option, then Hue has to call in that it is not an option in this situation along with the play... which had to be some kind of PAP out of a power formation. You take a young QB by the hand and assume nothing in game.

[Mark O]

1 hour ago, Tour2ma said:

On the sneak... I still believe that if Hue calls a play where the sneak is an audible option, then Hue has to call in that it is not an option in this situation along with the play... which had to be some kind of PAP out of a power formation. You take a young QB by the hand and assume nothing in game.

Exactly...he can talk to the QB through the helmet....he needs to coach him the entire time.  Remind him there's no timeouts and only 15 seconds.   Was a bit alarming on watching it again to see how no one was really in a hurry for at least a couple of seconds.  It's like the entire offense stood around wondering what the hell happened.

[Tour2ma]

10 minutes ago, Mark O said:

Exactly...he can talk to the QB through the helmet....he needs to coach him the entire time.  Remind him there's no timeouts and only 15 seconds.   Was a bit alarming on watching it again to see how no one was really in a hurry for at least a couple of seconds.  It's like the entire offense stood around wondering what the hell happened.

True... but have to remember it is now illegal to pull players off a pile. Had we done so and been flagged and had 10 seconds run off the clock. Then the bit-chin' would be around "stupid penalties" and "lack of discipline." Neither of which have been issues the last couple games... at least not b-itch-worthy...even around here.

So we stood around waiting for the Lions to get up at a normal pace... which of course, they did not... clearly "delaying the game" by any normal definition. But can't look to the refs to bail us out of a misery of our own making.

In that situation you throw the ball into, or out of, the endzone three times, then on 4th down decide whether to try again, run or pass, or kick the FG.

[Mark O]

2 minutes ago, Tour2ma said:

True... but have to remember it is now illegal to pull players off a pile. Had we done so and been flagged and had 10 seconds run off the clock. Then the bit-chin' would be around "stupid penalties" and "lack of discipline." Neither of which have been issues the last couple games... at least not b-itch-worthy...even around here.

So we stood around waiting for the Lions to get up at a normal pace... which of course, they did not... clearly "delaying the game" by any normal definition. But can't look to the refs to bail us out of a misery of our own making.

In that situation you throw the ball into, or out of, the endzone three times, then on 4th down decide whether to try again, run or pass, or kick the FG.

Agreed....and not so much of pulling guys off the pile...even the ones who weren't in the pile were just standing there.   No one was in a hurry for like 3 or 4 seconds and then they started moving. 

But yes....ball has to be thrown into the end zone.