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I'm being completely honest. 

Kessler should have never jumped Hogan for 2nd string. Hogan earned that, and we saw what happened with Kessler in there today. Exactly what I said, Kessler goes down like a paper doll in a paper shredder at the first signs of pressure. 

Why has Hogan been demoted all the way to not even dressing for the game. He played lights out during Preseason, lights out when he had to come in when Kizer had a headache, when Kizer was struggling, Hogan played great. He even got the nod to start his first ever game in a game that we had no chance in hell of winning. He had a few passes that got away from him that lucked right into the defenses hands and turned out badly. 

But, how do you bench a guy for 4 weeks for 1 bad quarter of play when the other two guys have had equally bad outings. 

If Hogan isn't the #1 or at least the #2 QB next week, I'm going to be highly disappointed. 

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Nobody cares about Hogan or Kessler. They wanna see if Kizer shows improvement and if he can be a viable QB of the future. 

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1 hour ago, SD_Tom said:

Nobody cares about Hogan or Kessler. They wanna see if Kizer shows improvement and if he can be a viable QB of the future. 

You didn't get Po's memo. We have the next Joe Montana on our roster, but Hue doesn't realize it yet. :D

 

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One thing that I liked the most about Kizer this game was his guts when running. Head first but not taking major risks, fighting for every inch... Brave but not brainless. 

It doesn't attract me that when he speaks to the media, generally he is so calm, low voice... I love it when players pump up their team mates, start shouting, cheering each other. Anyway, seeing your QB being the first one stepping up and not sliding in every run so the team can get the yardage needed, well... I like that kind of stuff.

EDIT: And stepping up after the McCarron's failed trade is huge, I hope he gets a boost of confidence.

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42 minutes ago, Alkid3 said:

He played well. We need to get Coleman back. And hopefully Collins is ok.

Yes because having a guy with hands of stone and legs made of glass is the answer...

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2 hours ago, hoorta said:

You didn't get Po's memo. We have the next Joe Montana on our roster, but Hue doesn't realize it yet. :D

 

Hue doesn't realize his team sucks yet because Stosh told him it's good. Stupid MFers!

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Yesterday was the first time I've seen anything to make me think that Kizer can be a decent NFL qb. Except for the sneak at the end of the half, he made good decisions, and was accurate most of the time. I won't blame him too much for that int.....it was an act of desperation. He has heart and the skills to be a successful, long term answer for this team. Now we need a veteran back up. Too bad the morons let McCown go. He would have been perfect for this season. Kessler is a total waste, and should just be cut immediately. He doesn't belong on any NFL team. I kind of hope they keep Hue in place after the season, but I really want Sashi, and his posse fired. They set this team back 5 years with their stupidity.

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I agree that Kizer played better than anyone we have seen all season, including his prior games. I do think losing Collins so early just killed us defensively. Browns finally get a really decent play out of a QB and two two things go bad, injury to a key run stopper and injury to the QB at the wrong point in the game. Whoever is f'n Thor's wife needs to stop because he keeps throwing lightning bolts in to screw this team.

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5 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said:

I agree that Kizer played better than anyone we have seen all season, including his prior games. I do think losing Collins so early just killed us defensively. Browns finally get a really decent play out of a QB and two two things go bad, injury to a key run stopper and injury to the QB at the wrong point in the game. Whoever is f'n Thor's wife needs to stop because he keeps throwing lightning bolts in to screw this team.

I agree with that.

Maybe I'm going to get shot by what I'll say next, but I think that Hue is right that with the current roster everything has to go perfectly to have a chance to win games. 

If we lose a field goal chance, have a turnover returned to TD and let our QB get a direct hit, like yesterday, we don't stand a chance*. Teams must be able to cope with that kind of details that happen in every game, I know, but ours currently cannot.

EDIT: *and don't have key player injuries.

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3 hours ago, nickers said:

Yes because having a guy with hands of stone and legs made of glass is the answer...

Who else currently on our roster can catch better than Coleman? Don't worry I'll wait. He can probably catch better with a broken hand then any of those other practice squad stars. 

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Next up is a defense that will be all over him both in blitzing and pass protection

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2 hours ago, Alkid3 said:

Who else currently on our roster can catch better than Coleman? Don't worry I'll wait. He can probably catch better with a broken hand then any of those other practice squad stars. 

And they say the best ability is availability.. this is year 2 and Mr Glass is hurt..

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Passing: 21/37 passes 56.8 %comp, 232 yards, 6.3 yards per attempt 1 TD 1 INT (on last play, these are made by every QB) 1 sack 73.3 QB rating

Rushing: 7 attempts, 57 yards 8.1 yards per attempt 1 TD.

He rushed for more yards than Duke Johnson (54), who in my opinion had a good game.

I don't know how QB rating works, and I guess it doesn't count the rushing game, but for me a QB which gets 279 yards and scores a touchdown while only getting a sack (thanks to an unblocked rusher) and makes and INT when the team is losing by two scores, tells me more about him than 73.3QBr. I say that because we tend to look at statistics and if you only looked to the QB rating you wouldn't say he played such a good game.

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11 hours ago, PoeticG said:

I'm being completely honest. 

OK....here comes something stupid....but yes...honest.  The problem is that you believe what you say.  

Kessler should have never jumped Hogan for 2nd string. Hogan earned that, and we saw what happened with Kessler in there today. Exactly what I said, Kessler goes down like a paper doll in a paper shredder at the first signs of pressure. 

I don't know if Hogan earned the 2d string slot....but he could likely have not done any worse.

Why has Hogan been demoted all the way to not even dressing for the game.

The fact that you have no insight into this explains why you have a muddled brain about it.

 

He played lights out during Preseason, lights out when he had to come in when Kizer had a headache, when Kizer was struggling, Hogan played great. He even got the nod to start his first ever game in a game that we had no chance in hell of winning.

We had no chance of winning to a great extent because of how poorly he played.

 

He had a few passes that got away from him that lucked right into the defenses hands and turned out badly. 

In other words, he sucked swamp water.  And the fact that you cannot tell that fact...again, simply demonstrates how delusional you are.

But, how do you bench a guy for 4 weeks for 1 bad quarter of play when the other two guys have had equally bad outings. 

If Hogan isn't the #1 or at least the #2 QB next week, I'm going to be highly disappointed. 

And if you pay to throw a pity party for yourself, I may even attend.  Be sure to provide your guests with prime rib and champagne.

 

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12 hours ago, PoeticG said:

Kizer did okay today... but Hogan>Kizer - and it isn't close.

Only you would come in here today humping our 3rd string QB after Kizer had his best game of the season.   Since your boyfriend is inactive each week...maybe you can go to the game and sit on his lap and cuddle with him all game long.  He's not doing anything else.   You going to be ok after the season when he's released? 

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10 minutes ago, Mark O said:

Only you would come in here today humping our 3rd string QB after Kizer had his best game of the season.   Since your boyfriend is inactive each week...maybe you can go to the game and sit on his lap and cuddle with him all game long.  He's not doing anything else.   You going to be ok after the season when he's released? 

It is an act or he is truly autistic.

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16 hours ago, BaconHound said:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/browns/2017/11/12/who-responsible-browns-bizarre-quarterback-sneak/856915001/

 

What's worse is Hue feels he has to fall on the grenade because Kizer can't own his mistakes or the media might hurt his confidence, smh.  Participation Trophy Mentality

Lighten up. Kizer is a kid. I give Hue props for standing up and taking heat. God knows he is already under enough pressure. So, the kid made a bone headed audible. It had no impact on the outcome of the game.

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2 hours ago, Nero said:

Passing: 21/37 passes 56.8 %comp, 232 yards, 6.3 yards per attempt 1 TD 1 INT (on last play, these are made by every QB) 1 sack 73.3 QB rating

Rushing: 7 attempts, 57 yards 8.1 yards per attempt 1 TD.

He rushed for more yards than Duke Johnson (54), who in my opinion had a good game.

I don't know how QB rating works, and I guess it doesn't count the rushing game, but for me a QB which gets 279 yards and scores a touchdown while only getting a sack (thanks to an unblocked rusher) and makes and INT when the team is losing by two scores, tells me more about him than 73.3QBr. I say that because we tend to look at statistics and if you only looked to the QB rating you wouldn't say he played such a good game.

Nobody had more dislike of Kizer than I. He played a nice game. He is a good kid and the players respond to him. Personally...I think he IS the guy.

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5 hours ago, Alkid3 said:

Who else currently on our roster can catch better than Coleman? Don't worry I'll wait. He can probably catch better with a broken hand then any of those other practice squad stars. 

Not worth arguing about. Nobody is going to argue that our receiving corps has both potential and issues. Coleman coming back sure as hell isn't going to hurt anything, so why attack him? I didn't think he was worth a #1 round pick, but that has passed now. With Gordon drawing the double teams, Coleman starts to have less encumbered fun. This team has a schidtload of problems, but also some talent that others on the field are taking notice of. Maybe the Steelers should bench Bent he Rapist because the Colts almost beat them?

Lookie here, naysayers..........the margins of loss for us have often been brought on by stupidity. For all our supposed lack of talent, we sure as hell are physically pounding some people. We need more talent, but I have more hope and optimism for this crap pile than I have since 1999.

Go Browns............................Did I mention.............FukC the Lions?

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2 hours ago, nickers said:

And they say the best ability is availability.. this is year 2 and Mr Glass is hurt..

Who's they? And he's still our best receiver. You're proving my point on how trash our receivers are. 

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16 hours ago, Mark O said:

You don't know that.  Somehow the Rams managed to hire a whole new staff and "saddled" them with the previous regimes pick. 

No coach (or GM, or other FO people) who has any other choice is going to come to Cleveland because Cleveland has a reputation of flushing the whole program down the toilet before it's had time to be seen through. So you can either allow the current administration to make their mistakes and get better, or you can fire them all, bring in a new green administration, and have to let them make all the same mistakes over again. 

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6 minutes ago, Osiris said:

No coach (or GM, or other FO people) who has any other choice is going to come to Cleveland because Cleveland has a reputation of flushing the whole program down the toilet before it's had time to be seen through. So you can either allow the current administration to make their mistakes and get better, or you can fire them all, bring in a new green administration, and have to let them make all the same mistakes over again. 

I would agree with you if Hue had had both 6 W seasons, because you could say 'what are they expecting? It's impossible to be a coach there!'. But after a 1-24, I do think that anyone wouldn't freak out because after 2 seasons it is enough time. Hue needs the 4 wins that 80% of this board doesn't wait to come by the season ending.

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