mjp28 Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 On 10/9/2017 at 9:38 PM, Dutch Oven said: I have a feeling U of Miami can beat that, let's see... As a group The U was a pretty prolific group: The Hurricanes once had a streak of 149 consecutive regular season weeks where a former Hurricane scored a touchdown in an NFL game; the streak started in Week 15 of the 2002 NFL regular season and ended in Week 11 of the 2011 season. During the streak, 33 different former Hurricanes scored touchdowns and a total of 661 touchdowns were scored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 8 hours ago, mjp28 said: As a group The U was a pretty prolific group: The Hurricanes once had a streak of 149 consecutive regular season weeks where a former Hurricane scored a touchdown in an NFL game; the streak started in Week 15 of the 2002 NFL regular season and ended in Week 11 of the 2011 season. During the streak, 33 different former Hurricanes scored touchdowns and a total of 661 touchdowns were scored. Holy crap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunz41 Posted October 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2017 On 10/10/2017 at 3:11 PM, Tour2ma said: Earl went to Texas... George and Elliot were Buckeyes... but you can add Howard "Hopalong" Cassidy... I feel dumb, I didn't mean Earl Campbell, meant 2 time heisman winner Archie Griffin. Wow that was s BIG mistake haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Definitive answer on RBs It is close between Syracuse and USC. These are the only 2 schools to produce 2 HOF RBs Syracuse had Jim Brown, Larry Csonka, and Floyd Little....all HOF RBs USC had OJ Simpson, Marcus Allen, and Frank Gifford. The edge goes to Syracuse....because they have Jim Brown. Other schools to produce 2 HOF RBs...or potential HOF RBs..that could contend in the "who produced the best RB category" Notre Dame: Paul Hornung and Jerome Bettis Georgia: Terrell Davis and Charley Trippi SMU: Eric Dickerson and Doak Walker Pitt: Tony Dorsett and Curtis Martin Penn St.: Franco Harris and Lenny Moore Kansas: John Riggins and Gale Sayers Oklahoma St. : Barry Sanders and Thurman Thomas Miami: Edgerrin James and Frank Gore (both potential HOF) In my opinion the duo of Sanders and Thomas could put OK St. in second place...if you just go by the best two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Definitive answer on QB. The fact is, there may be no definitive answer. Two schools have produce three HOF QBs...or certain HOF QBs: Alabama: Namath, Bart Starr, Ken Stabler Purdue: Len Dawson, Bob Griese, Drew Brees Other schools to produce 2 HOF or certain HOF QBs: UCLA: Aikman and Bob Waterfield Oregon: Dan Fouts and Norm Van Brocklin Duke: Sonny Jurgenson and Ace Parker Michigan: Benny Friedman and Tom Brady If you just go by who were the best two....you might have to consider Michigan. No one here can doubt the credentials of Brady...but most may not know the quality of Friedman. He was simply the best QB of his era....which was mid 20s to mid 30s. Someone mentioned Stanford and Elway and Luck.....well...sorry....not so fast my friend. Luck has a lot to go before he joins the elite QBs in history class. This is, I assume a question of who were the actual best QBs based on totality of NFL careers.....not on potential. Luck still has a lot of unfulfilled potential...and the jury is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Definitive answer on WRs: There are really only 4 contenders who have produced as many as 2 HOF actual or potential WRs: Ohio State: Cris Carter, Paul Warfield, Dante Lavelli Miami, Fla: Michael Irvin, (Reggie Wayne) (Andre Johnson) Syracuse: Marvin Harrison, Art Monk Florida State: Fred Biletnikoff (Anquon Boldin) ( ) means not in but probable HOF Very tough choice. The homer in me wants to pick OSU...and it would be a good pick. So, sure, why not, go with the home choice. But the others are perfectly legitimately arguable (If Syracuse were chosen, it would have the top spot in two of these 3 categories!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Nice to have our own Judge Roy Bean here for the definitive answers. Well I guess he's the modern day Ohio version the original was an eccentric U.S. saloon-keeper and Justice of the Peace in Val Verde County, Texas, who called himself "The Law West of the Pecos". I guess he's "The Law East of the Cuyahoga", or is it West? (and we kid because we care) And you almost could have a time cutoff because as time goes on the number of pro teams got larger along with the explosion in number of players. For example the best before/after 1980? The older ones are already in the HOF if they're getting in. Still a good topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Definitive answer on Tight Ends. Again, there is none. NO school has produced more than 1 HOF or likely HOF caliber TE. The ones that have: Notre Dame: Casper; Pitt: Ditka; Syracuse: Mackey, Minnesota: Charlie Sanders, Alabama: Ozzie;, South Carolina: Shannon Sharpe; NW Louisiana: Jackie Smith; Missouri, Kellen Winslow; Cal: Tony Gonzales?;, Tennesse: Jason Witten?; Kent State: Antonio Gates? ? means not in HOF...but probable or potential. Miami Fla. has produced two pretty good ones: Greg Olsen and Jeremy Shockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenew23 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 UNC pass rushers Lawrence Taylor & Julius Peppers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Definitive answers on Offensive Center. Again, there really is none. No school has produced more than one HOF center. However....Gil Brandt did his list of top 16 centers of all time, and there is one school on there that has two players: Wisconsin: both Mike Webster and Travis Frederick (current Cowboys center.....though...could Brandt..ex Cowboys GM, be a little biased? He also has Alex Mack on the top 16 ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenew23 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Tennessee DEs Reggie White and Doug Atkins (first player ever inducted in college and pro HOf) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Definitive Answer on Middle Linebacker: Whoever said above that it is Illinois with finger Butkus and Ray Nitschke is absolutely right. This may be as slam dunk as any position on the field. Edit: OK now, this auto correct is going to far....when I can't even put in D-I-C-K Butkus's name without it being corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 18 minutes ago, thenew23 said: UNC pass rushers Lawrence Taylor & Julius Peppers Except, technically "pass rusher" is not a position. A nose tackle is a pass rusher on pass plays. Peppers is a DE where TAylor was an OLB. I get where you are coming from, but if we are trying to specify positions....I guess we need to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 12 minutes ago, The Gipper said: Definitive answers on Offensive Center. Again, there really is none. No school has produced more than one HOF center. However....Gil Brandt did his list of top 16 centers of all time, and there is one school on there that has two players: Wisconsin: both Mike Webster and Travis Frederick (current Cowboys center.....though...could Brandt..ex Cowboys GM, be a little biased? He also has Alex Mack on the top 16 ever. Wisconsin and their tradition of All American and NFL caliber linemen which contains to today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Safety. I won't distinguish between free and strong....but two schools vie for supremacy here: Iowa: Emlen Tunnell and Paul Krause USC: Ronnie Lott and Willie Wood Very hard for me to choose...from these. Krause is all time leading interceptor, Lott was a hammer. But, you know, when you put in Troy Polamalu, a likely HOF safety, it probably swings the vote for USC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Cornerback. There is one school that stands out as far as producing Hall of Fame Cornerbacks: Southern University. Produced both Mel Blount and Aeneas Williams. Both were in Brandt's Top Ten QBs of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Defensive Tackle.....strictly Definitive Answer: Two schools compete Miami Fla.: Cortez Kennedy and Warren Sapp Boston College: Ernie Stautner and Art Donovan. Only because the two Miami, Fla. guys are more recent...I guess the not goes to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious Styles Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Auburn Running Backs Bo Jackson Joe Cribbs James Brooks Rudi Johnson .....may have left some out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Definitive answer on Offensive Guards: there is absolutely none. I have found no school that has produced more than one HOF OG....or even has a second HOF hopeful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Offensive Tackle. Only two schools are in competition here: Ohio State: Lou Groza, Jim Parker, Orlando Pace, all in HOF USC: Ron Mix, Anthony Munoz, Ron Yary all in HOF It is almost too close to call. Since I gave a homer choice to OSU before, perhaps here I will go against them and go with USC...since Munoz may be considered the best LT of all time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Defensive End: Either way you look at it, the state of Tennessee takes this cake: Tennessee.....if you count Reggie White as a DE, he along with Doug Atkins would give the Vols the title here. ....but I don't. So you have Tennessee State with: Richard Dent and Claude Humphrey as the choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Last position....unless I decide to do kickers and punters, which I may: Outside Linebacker A bit of a dilemma. Only one school has produced two "pure" OLBs that have made the HOF: Penn St. Jack Ham, Dave Robinson But two other schools have produced one pure OLB, and each had another listed at DE/OLB: Pitt: Ricky Jackson and DE/LB Chris Doleman North Carolina: Lawrence Taylor and DE/LB Julius Peppers So, what does one choose? The school with the two pure OLBs...or one of the schools with the hybrids? I think my choice is one with the hybrids....because of the quality of the players involved. The Choice: North Carolina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 So...here are my "final" results in this poll: Quarterback: Michigan courtesy Tom Brady and Benny Friedman Runnerup: Alabama next: Purdue Running back: Syracuse courtesy of Jim Brown and Larry Csonka . Runnerup USC/OK St. Wide Receiver: Ohio State courtesy of Paul Warfield and Cris Carter. Runnerup, Miami, Fla Tight End: No definitive choice Center: Wisconsin courtesy of Mike Webster and Travis Frederick Offensive Guard: no definitive choice Offensive Tackle: USC courtesy of Anthony Munoz and Ron Mix/Yale Lary Runnerup: Ohio State Middle Linebacker: Illinois, courtesy of finger Butkus and Ray Nitschke Outside Linebacker: North Carolina courtesy of Lawrence and Julius Pepper Runnersup: Penn State and Pitt Defensive end: Tennessee State courtesy of Richard Dent and Claude Humphrey. Runnerup: Tennessee Defensive Tackle: Miami Fla. courtesy of Warren Sapp and Cortez Kennedy. Runnerup: Boston College Safety: USC courtesy of Ronnie Lott, Willie Wood and Troy Polamalu. Runnerup: Iowa Cornerback: Southern University courtesy of Mel Blount and Aeneas Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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