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Living in Venezuela in early to mid 60s we got our news from short wave radio. That meant Voice of America, BBC and US Armed Forces Radio Service. But the strongest 24 hour stations came from Radio Moscow and Radio Havana. It used to be comical to listen to those two occasionally because the propaganda was so very obvious and the source was so clear. Now they have become extremely nebulous and extremely sophisticated in how they do it. Funny thing is a lot of their stuff gets put on boards just like this one by well meaning, committed Americans who have no idea they are posting Russian generated propaganda based on half truths, lies and divisiveness. They've gotten really good at it compared to the 60s.

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1 hour ago, DieHardBrownsFan said:

Спасибо, товарищ!

 

1 hour ago, Westside Steve said:

I've never been to Venezuela. I get my anti-American propaganda from The New York Times.

:D

WSS

LOL! for both. 

Venezuela is now a socialist (communist) dictatorship under Maduro. I still have a lot of Venezuelan friends there who lament what has happened to their democracy. And many more living now mostly in Florida as exiles who cannot return home just like what happened to the Cubans who left in the 50s & 60s. The Russians and especially the Chinese have been very much a part of this collapse and it has a great many of the South American democracies very worried.

I don't think most Americans are really aware of what is happening and that freedom is being attacked one small piece at a time all around the world. It adds up and if we don't recognize it now as a united nation, we will go the way of the Roman Empire, just more dust to sift through 1000 years from now.

BTW I go to Spain next week and have several Roman ruins there on the "to see" list in south central Spain.

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17 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said:

 

LOL! for both. 

Venezuela is now a socialist (communist) dictatorship under Maduro. I still have a lot of Venezuelan friends there who lament what has happened to their democracy. And many more living now mostly in Florida as exiles who cannot return home just like what happened to the Cubans who left in the 50s & 60s. The Russians and especially the Chinese have been very much a part of this collapse and it has a great many of the South American democracies very worried.

I don't think most Americans are really aware of what is happening and that freedom is being attacked one small piece at a time all around the world. It adds up and if we don't recognize it now as a united nation, we will go the way of the Roman Empire, just more dust to sift through 1000 years from now.

BTW I go to Spain next week and have several Roman ruins there on the "to see" list in south central Spain.

with that background, how is it possible you are a locked in, blinders on freaking wildman liberal wingnut?

http://conservative.org/careers/internship/apply/

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27 minutes ago, calfoxwc said:

with that background, how is it possible you are a locked in, blinders on freaking wildman liberal wingnut?

http://conservative.org/careers/internship/apply/

Because I can't stand the ultimate fake president who is a total ignoramus as to history, both distant and current. He has no Shmucking clue and is the wrong man at the wrong time for us to fight these bastards that want to bring all our freedoms to an end. His ego is in the way of actually coming up with a sound gameplan to counter them. He should apply for the next Browns HC job. He'd fit quite well.

So you see I'm quite locked in alright. For the USA and everything we stand for. This clown is locked in only on himself and is clueless on the real war here. And all the while selling MAGA without knowing what that really meant to Reagan. Too bad we didn't clone Ronnie for this fight. He understood who the real "Evil Empire" was and still is. Russia and China where freedom of political difference is not tolerated.

EDIT-the real war is the cyberwar that they use to undermine all democracies. The great Pumpkin thinks it's sabre rattling because he is afraid the cyberwar put him in charge.

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4 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said:

Because I can't stand the ultimate fake president who is a total ignoramus as to history, both distant and current. He has no Shmucking clue and is the wrong man at the wrong time for us to fight these bastards that want to bring all our freedoms to an end. His ego is in the way of actually coming up with a sound gameplan to counter them. He should apply for the next Browns HC job. He'd fit quite well.

So you see I'm quite locked in alright. For the USA and everything we stand for. This clown is locked in only on himself and is clueless on the real war here. And all the while selling MAGA without knowing what that really meant to Reagan. Too bad we didn't clone Ronnie for this fight. He understood who the real "Evil Empire" was and still is. Russia and China where freedom of political difference is not tolerated.

You just described Bill Clinton to a “T”.

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31 minutes ago, Canton Dawg said:

You just described Bill Clinton to a “T”.

AND obaMao. exactly the desc Tex SHOULD for both of THEM.

he is just mad the dems lost the election.

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2 hours ago, calfoxwc said:

AND obaMao. exactly the desc Tex SHOULD for both of THEM.

he is just mad the dems lost the election.

Why do I find it impossible to have a real discussion with people over here? Because you're all so caught up in labeling people who actually try to think through the real issues that you won't take two seconds to consider any other possibility than your own. Why do you find it so hard to understand who our real enemies are? China and Russia have us zeroed in and the sooner you understand that the better off we will all be.

I don't give two shits that hilarity lost. I do give two shits that an ignorant dufus is in charge and the ship is sinking on his watch. Sooner or later you will figure that out.

I would have happily voted for any other Rep. than the Orange Liar. But he is the moron that Tillerson said he was.

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you emotional knee jerk like a liberal, you're a liberal.

"real discussion", and you bitch about labels, while angrily throwing labels at trump. China and Russia started screwing around with us

long, long before Trump. Stop and read your own posts. China and Russia had us zero'ed in for eight years of your fave

ObaMAO and you never said diddly about how russia and china are our enemies.

Your stupidass socialist obaMao labeled ISIS a "jv team". any angry comment on that from you?

Your stupidass socialist obaMao labeled Iran "just a tiny country"

Experts say your stupidass socialist obaMao is RESPONSIBLE for N.Korea getting nukes.

    not one complaint from you.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/08/09/obama-administration-knew-about-north-koreas-miniaturized-nukes.html

Oh, and guess what, indignent malignant liberal guy... OBAMAO KNEW N. KOREA WAS CAPABLE OF MAKING MINI NUKES

IN 2013 and cowardly tried to hide that information, downplay it, so he could continue doing NOTHING.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/08/09/obama-administration-knew-about-north-koreas-miniaturized-nukes.html

sad. free obaMao phones made you libs happy as hell, the promise of "free" health care for all, was enough to make

you liberal quiet as rocks, while russia and china beefed up their global military capabilities, and obamao helped

make iran rich enough to be even MORE dangerous, ...

    it's impossible to have a real discussion with someone so biased and locked in left as you are. label that.

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Omg cal u are an ignorant slob. Its a different set of talking points every week that are diametrically opposed to each other. One month its oh we need to work with the russians tbey're mot our enemy the muslims are, now its oh russia's bad but nobody gave a fuk about them while obama was president. Yet you critisized obama relentlessly for his bad relationship with russia.

So in a sense ur now implicitly acknowledging that obama was right in being stand offish with putin, he was right when he said these arent good guys. But as long as a republican was using russia as a talkingnpoint in his campaign, u gladly envisioned urself on ur knees making deep meaningful eye contact with putin while ur mouth was stuffed down to ur tonsils. 

Shmuck you have zero Shmucking principle about hardly anything. In all seriousness are u a professional russian farm troll? 

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4 hours ago, calfoxwc said:

you emotional knee jerk like a liberal, you're a liberal.

"real discussion", and you bitch about labels, while angrily throwing labels at trump. China and Russia started screwing around with us

long, long before Trump. Stop and read your own posts. China and Russia had us zero'ed in for eight years of your fave

ObaMAO and you never said diddly about how russia and china are our enemies.

Your stupidass socialist obaMao labeled ISIS a "jv team". any angry comment on that from you?

Your stupidass socialist obaMao labeled Iran "just a tiny country"

Experts say your stupidass socialist obaMao is RESPONSIBLE for N.Korea getting nukes.

    not one complaint from you.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/08/09/obama-administration-knew-about-north-koreas-miniaturized-nukes.html

Oh, and guess what, indignent malignant liberal guy... OBAMAO KNEW N. KOREA WAS CAPABLE OF MAKING MINI NUKES

IN 2013 and cowardly tried to hide that information, downplay it, so he could continue doing NOTHING.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/08/09/obama-administration-knew-about-north-koreas-miniaturized-nukes.html

sad. free obaMao phones made you libs happy as hell, the promise of "free" health care for all, was enough to make

you liberal quiet as rocks, while russia and china beefed up their global military capabilities, and obamao helped

make iran rich enough to be even MORE dangerous, ...

    it's impossible to have a real discussion with someone so biased and locked in left as you are. label that.

I'm emotional knee jerk? What the f u c k was that? 

Like I said. You don't want to discuss. You only want to label and name call. It helps you not think I guess. You're getting very good at that.

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a calm and very cool appraisal of your leftwing knee jerkie, that's all. liberals have an automatic response

in their locked in psyches that diffuses rational critically thought out responses.

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Cal u read a story about olanned protests on nov 4th and within seconds had pecked out a thread here about an obamao backed coup. Take the bet dotard

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1 hour ago, TexasAg1969 said:

I'm emotional knee jerk? What the f u c k was that? 

Like I said. You don't want to discuss. You only want to label and name call. It helps you not think I guess. You're getting very good at that.

and you label and name call trump with no legit reason. I'm simply bringing up what I've said about liberals for years.

You do what I said liberals do. If it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, looks like a duck, flies like a duck...

it's a duck. I discuss things with folks without getting pointed when the other party doesn't get pointed. You liberals

demand to have respectful discourse on the issues until you can't back up your emotional knee jerks. ObaMAO lied for

eight years, and you never said one word in angst about it, I think. Have a nice day.

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10 hours ago, calfoxwc said:

and you label and name call trump with no legit reason. I'm simply bringing up what I've said about liberals for years.

You do what I said liberals do. If it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, looks like a duck, flies like a duck...

it's a duck. I discuss things with folks without getting pointed when the other party doesn't get pointed. You liberals

demand to have respectful discourse on the issues until you can't back up your emotional knee jerks. ObaMAO lied for

eight years, and you never said one word in angst about it, I think. Have a nice day.

cal I haven't even been on  the political board all that long and if you knew me personally you would have heard me say multiple times during Obama's admin. that he was nothing more than a Chicago political hack with zero understanding of international affairs. I was born in a Goldwater family and volunteered into the US Army, Infantry and service in Vietnam because of that family upbringing. I also attended the Army's Psychological Operations School in Ft. Bragg which specialized in teaching all about the international use of propaganda as an extension of military operations. The reason you hear me rail against Trump is primarily because he doesn't have a truthful bone in his body as I've said in detail here before. However i also think he is totally ignorant, just like Obama, of anything having to do with international relations and for whatever reason chooses to remain so when it comes to Russia and China. I will wait for the courts to decide if that reason is treasonous. Meanwhile, on his watch, we are losing the cyberwar while he steadfastly stands in the way of finding a way to counteract what they are doing. His egotistic fear that someone might think the Russians got him elected via that cyberwar forces him to close his eyes and refuse to see what happened so that we can actually do something in the future to prevent them undermining democracies worldwide. And if the trail of evidence leads back to him as a willing partner to get himself elected, will you be able to see it for what it is? Will you recognize the duck then?

If he has been proven to lie multiple times as he has been, then he's a Liar. I call him what he is.

If he has demonstrated a lack of historical knowledge and/or understanding, then he is ignorant. I call him what he is.

And if I see him as a danger to our democracy, which I do, I say that as well.

Pointed. Yes. But my reasons have nothing to do with "liberal", which is your continued pointed labeling of me because you don't dare believe I can come up with those conclusions about Trump in any other way. Well I have and I do. I see the duck for what he is.

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Tex, I guess we can agree on the fact that no man is capable of understanding each and every aspect involved in the United States of America. A point I have paid before before is that no one man can be in charge of every facet of even a high school football team. Let alone a country as big as the USA. But we do tend to focus our anger or our hopes and dreams on a figurehead.

WSS

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14 minutes ago, Westside Steve said:

Tex, I guess we can agree on the fact that no man is capable of understanding each and every aspect involved in the United States of America. A point I have paid before before is that no one man can be in charge of every facet of even a high school football team. Let alone a country as big as the USA. But we do tend to focus our anger or our hopes and dreams on a figurehead.

WSS

And unfortunately this one's narcissism will not allow him to trust to others in the areas where he is weakest. And that puts our country at risk IMO. He has a major blind spot and he will not let others more capable of "seeing" for him handle it in a better way. He's never had to do that before, so the question becomes is he capable of change. So far that answer has been, "No". With the exception of killing Osama, Obama could not do it well either. He was still stuck in Chicago.

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Frankly I doubt that Obama had much to do with killing Osama bin Laden. I think the military guys said hey I think we can take this guy out and he probably just said duh okay. Like any president would have done. Whether or not it made the world safer is up to interpretation I guess. Still I don't believe the Trump has written any policy paper, and it seems like he takes the advice of the military. If he says that negotiating with North Korea is pointless oh, well a look back over the last few decades would seem to bear that out. Doesn't it seem a little disingenuous to trust the North Koreans or the Iranians while hyperventilating over the Russians?

WSS

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"Trust, but verify!"-One of Ronnie's favs

And just for the record here is part of something I sent my friend miktoxic in a PM that accurately describes political dynamics in one family (mine).

"I go to Hawaii with my two brothers and their wives this coming Dec. One brother makes Trump look like a pinko commie and the other makes Obama look like the alt-right. I'm stuck in the middle as the independent thinker. So we have this pack when we are together. We don't allow any political discussion. Keeps peace in the family and makes snorkeling together fun and not a drowning affair.  LOL!:lol:"

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24 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said:

"Trust, but verify!"-One of Ronnie's favs

I remember that phrase also from when Saddam Hussein was leading Hans Blix around by his wang.

:D

WSS

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