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Vagitron    42
1 hour ago, boo fagley said:

Haden is supposed to bolster the Pitt secondary so they can beat NE.

Did you watch the KC game? KC was playing man 2 man. An experienced QB is going burn the Pitt defense to a crisp.

The steelers are running a mix. Haden allows them to do it more freely. If tuitt dodges a bullet with his bicep injury im not worried about tom brady as much as i used to be, if tuitt is done things get morr interesting. Burns can man up with the best of them, haden despite what people here think should be fine too, especially as the 2 and not the one. 

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Vagitron    42
1 hour ago, Westside Steve said:

Make that a bag of dicks.

WSS

I thought you had the market cornered on the bag of dicks? Dont you hand feed them to cal and diehard? 

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boo fagley    137
19 minutes ago, Vagitron said:

The steelers are running a mix. Haden allows them to do it more freely. If tuitt dodges a bullet with his bicep injury im not worried about tom brady as much as i used to be, if tuitt is done things get morr interesting. Burns can man up with the best of them, haden despite what people here think should be fine too, especially as the 2 and not the one. 

Haden is toast.

Man to man beats Brady and not zone. Haden is too slow for man coverage and thats why he plays off the WR 5 yards. An experienced NFL QB will go after Haden and expose the Steeler defense as frauds.

Crying about injuries is weak. You dont see anybody here using Garret as an excuse.

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Tour2ma    1,423
16 hours ago, Canton Dawg said:

... did allow six catches for 80 yards and a 106.3 passer rating into his coverage.

Is that good? :ph34r:

12 hours ago, boo fagley said:

Wasnt Haden covering Williams on that bomb down the sideline?

That was different... that was "trail technique"... :)

9 hours ago, miktoxic said:

so i am not only a creative god but a prophetic one as welll..

Prophet? NO... Historian? Maybe...

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Canton Dawg    262
7 minutes ago, Tour2ma said:

Is that good? :ph34r:

Considering Antonio Brown had 11 receptions for 182 yards...yep that was good.

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hx214    63
1 minute ago, Canton Dawg said:

Considering Antonio Brown had 11 receptions for 182 yards...yep that was good.

How many of those yards came off those two deflected passes that went right to him though?

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hoorta    900
2 hours ago, Vagitron said:

The steelers are running a mix. Haden allows them to do it more freely. If tuitt dodges a bullet with his bicep injury im not worried about tom brady as much as i used to be, if tuitt is done things get morr interesting. Burns can man up with the best of them, haden despite what people here think should be fine too, especially as the 2 and not the one. 

Puleeze I was at the game, our wide receivers aren't exactly great and they were open against Haden every time I looked. IIRC the Steelers play Green Bay this year, Rodgers will not only toast Haden, he'll burn him to a crisp. That's if Joe hasn't pulled another leg muscle by that time.

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The Gipper    1,168
18 hours ago, nickers said:

Our receivers cant catch so its a wash...

Kizer was just off target on like 3 throws that went awry.  Haden was covering on them...but it was not his defense that caused the passes to go incomplete...it was just inaccuracy.  Had they been completed.....the Steelers likely would have had to call the fire department to keep Haden from getting burned so badly.

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The Gipper    1,168
17 hours ago, Vagitron said:

You all realize the steelers play zone that way right? They dont want the ball getting behind them. Why do you think williams had peppers back 20 yards all game? Guesd you better cut all the corners brown laid waste to then, what were their pff rankings? Lmao

Brown did burn the Browns corners, for sure.   But Haden certainly would have fared no better...much worse probably .  (Even when he was playing well he had trouble with AB.).  That said, even in  playing the zone Joe got burned...and it would have been much worse except, as I said above, a few inaccurate throws to receivers that came his way.

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Canton Dawg    262
40 minutes ago, hx214 said:

How many of those yards came off those two deflected passes that went right to him though?

I would say quite a few.

I can't stand Antonio Brown, but he's one of the best WR's in the game. 

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The Gipper    1,168
17 hours ago, Vagitron said:

I guess we will find out. He didnt do anything bad and hes not being paid 11 hes being paid 7. I think the steelers are going to get their moneys worth. 

If getting burned  a few times....and getting lucky that he wasn't burned more due to some inaccurate passes to you isn't "bad" then I guess we can say that the Browns DBs vs. AB didn't "do bad".

(but...of course, they did...and so did Haden).

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The Gipper    1,168
16 hours ago, Canton Dawg said:

Not really. . .

CB BRIEAN BODDY-CALHOUN, 84.2 OVERALL GRADE

While teammate Jamar Taylor had his hands full with Brown (33.3 coverage grade), Boddy-Calhoun enjoyed a strong afternoon, much of it spent in the slot. On three throws into his coverage he surrendered just one catch for six yards, also breaking up a pass. He notched three total defensive stops and no missed tackles on the day.

I agree...I thought it was Taylor who had a pretty piss poor game.  On at least 3 occasion Brown (or some other Steeler WR), caught a ball in front of Taylor....then ran right by him for many more yards than they would have gotten had he made the tackle.

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The Gipper    1,168
14 hours ago, Vagitron said:

He also wasnt tested with bryant shaking off the rust. You should have led with taylor seeing as ben really only threw to jesse james and brown that game. 

Uh...um, duh.   He threw to those two because they were the ones open.  Why? Because the other guys were probably covered.  Taylor did a bad job, yes, in my opinion.  (how many players have ever just out AB...from any team?) The two players that are the difference between the Browns and Steelers....BR and BRown...are the ones that made the difference in that game.  But you overrate your other receivers.  Bryant has been good at times in the past...but who knows about now  (be it "rust" or be it perhaps he ain't all that good).

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hoorta    900
4 minutes ago, The Gipper said:

If getting burned  a few times....and getting lucky that he wasn't burned more due to some inaccurate passes to you isn't "bad" then I guess we can say that the Browns DBs vs. AB didn't "do bad".

(but...of course, they did...and so did Haden).

If Haden was playing a zone, it looked like a prevent zone. He was beaten on that bomb that went out of bounds. An accurate throw by Kizer + catch = TD. Joe's closing burst is gone.

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runyon27    41

I think Haden could do well in zone coverage, man to man I think he is going to struggle he was getting beat in the preseason in man against lesser WRs so zone I think he will be fine and has the smarts to do well there, man coverage will be a crap shoot.

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The Gipper    1,168
3 hours ago, Vagitron said:

The steelers are running a mix. Haden allows them to do it more freely. If tuitt dodges a bullet with his bicep injury im not worried about tom brady as much as i used to be, if tuitt is done things get morr interesting. Burns can man up with the best of them, haden despite what people here think should be fine too, especially as the 2 and not the one. 

Burns?   That guy lives up to his name.  (In fact...I think the announcers on yesterday's game said that he was the most penalized DB in the NFL last year.   He holds and interferes because he can't cover). 

And face it:  The Browns are considered to have one of the worst receiving corps in the entire NFL.  and they did pretty well vs. the Squibs secondary. If not for a few inaccurate passes by a first game ever rookie QB...things would have been much worse.  And you know where they might get worse?

Here (hear) is what you said:  "I'm not worried about Tom Brady".    Here is the appropriate reply:

 

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Vagitron    42
Just now, The Gipper said:

Burns?   That guy lives up to his name.  (In fact...I think the announcers on yesterday's game said that he was the most penalized DB in the NFL last year.   He holds and interferes because he can't cover). 

And face it:  The Browns are considered to have one of the worst receiving corps in the entire NFL.  and they did pretty well vs. the Squibs secondary. If not for a few inaccurate passes by a first game ever rookie QB...things would have been much worse.  And you know where they might get worse?

Here (hear) is what you said:  "I'm not worried about Tom Brady".    Here is the appropriate reply:

 

Artie burns is an animal. Im not sure who you are talking about but it isnt burns. He goes against brown every day but game day and he holds his own. 

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boo fagley    137
1 hour ago, Tour2ma said:

 

That was different... that was "trail technique"... :)

Says a lot that the Browns were targeting Haden.

Haden is all done. You have to wonder what Flacco and Dalton are going to do to him.

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Tour2ma    1,423

Disagree with "done", but he certainly hasn't flirted with "elite" for a couple years now. Hidden in a zone I think he'll be serviceable... make some plays... nab a pick or two... but zone was never his strength and the O/U on games missed due to injury has to be around 3.0... and that's only considering the protocol factor.

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The Gipper    1,168
50 minutes ago, Vagitron said:

Artie burns is an animal. Im not sure who you are talking about but it isnt burns. He goes against brown every day but game day and he holds his own. 

And they say that De-Lusion is just a brand of light bulbs.  What Burns is is just another in a recent line of mediocre or below Steeler draft picks at DB.   

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Vagitron    42
15 minutes ago, The Gipper said:

And they say that De-Lusion is just a brand of light bulbs.  What Burns is is just another in a recent line of mediocre or below Steeler draft picks at DB.   

Do you just randomly decide that you are going to talk out of your ass or is this a weak troll attempt? 

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The Gipper    1,168
17 minutes ago, Vagitron said:

Do you just randomly decide that you are going to talk out of your ass or is this a weak troll attempt? 

I am just pointing out that you are being completely delusional in some of your opinions.   In the words of former Patriots coach:  Ron Meyer  Artie Burns is "Just another guy".

Show me anything anywhere that rates this just another guy in the top echelon of defensive backs in the NFL.

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Vagitron    42
15 minutes ago, The Gipper said:

I am just pointing out that you are being completely delusional in some of your opinions.   In the words of former Patriots coach:  Ron Meyer  Artie Burns is "Just another guy".

Show me anything anywhere that rates this just another guy in the top echelon of defensive backs in the NFL.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/platform/amp/pittsburgh-steelers-opinions-reactions-news-updates/2017/8/3/16081498/year-two-steelers-cornerback-artie-burns-looks-like-brilliant-shrewd-draft-pick-opinion-analysis

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Westside Steve    1,714
5 hours ago, Vagitron said:

I thought you had the market cornered on the bag of dicks? Dont you hand feed them to cal and diehard? 

Don't worry will have a fresh supply for you. One of the great things about cornering the market.

 

WSS

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