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6 hours ago, TopDawg31 said:

So the Monday morning Houston paper claimed Myles had a good game, sadly it was unnoticeable.  It's like having Joe Thomas and no QB , if we had watson at #1 and he was producing like he is for the Texans, nobody would give a Shmuck that we drafted him 1 overall. But we're stuck with garetts useless production.

and he was producing like he is for the Texans”

 

He wouldn’t be, so who cares?

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11 hours ago, Clevfan4life said:

Useless? The guy who's our SACK LEADER after only two games with limited reps is useless? Ok. Who do we put in at RDE coach lombardi?

Did ya watch Colts at Tenn.? Tenn. comes in on short week. Mariota was forced to stay in pocket due to knee sprain. Taylor Lewan draws a healthier Garrett. Ogbah gets Jack Conklin:(. Colts got 1 sack from a OLB..G.Williams may only have 1 area code to go get the QB..but damn is Tenn. loaded at TE & WR. Still all starts with stopping the run.

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Well, stopping the run is about the only thing our team is good at, so I feel pretty decent about that.  Of course, facing Murray and Henry doesn't sound too fun to ME, but hopefully we'll continue to get decent penetration and gang tackling.  

My main concern is our red zone defense.  The Colts-Titans game really shouldn't have been close if Tennessee executed better in the red zone, and what's the best cure for an ailing red zone offense?  Why, it's playing the Cleveland Browns, of course.  It also doesn't help that Mariota is extremely accurate when he's on his game, and he isn't afraid to hit the TE on short and deep routes.  We've made some no-name TE's look like Ozzie Newsome this year, so if you need some Draft Kings gambling advice for fantasy football, pick up the Titans' TE and start him.  You likely won't be disappointed.  

As far as Garrett is concerned, I wouldn't be surprised if he took a little step back and came away with zero sacks this game.  I still think he'll play well against the run and get some pressure, but I expect opposing OC's to really game plan for Garrett, and do whatever they can to mitigate his presence.  This will potentially open the door for someone like Ogbah or Nassib, and if they have solid games, we could keep the game close.  If they play poorly, it might be a long day.  

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11 hours ago, wargograw said:

Ghoolie’s like an addict. “I know I said I’d quit, but what if I just make useless one liners instead of my usual walls of text?”

3 weeks later. Full blown relapse. 

Meh... on "Ignore" they all look the same ===> " You've chosen to ignore content by Ghoolie. Options "

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17 hours ago, Clevfan4life said:

Useless? The guy who's our SACK LEADER after only two games with limited reps is useless? Ok. Who do we put in at RDE coach lombardi?

Give up... some folks analysis don't even get to the score... stop at "W" or "L".

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11 hours ago, wargograw said:

and he was producing like he is for the Texans”

 

He wouldn’t be, so who cares?

Some people dont undetstand that tom brady would not be tom brady here in cleveland. This Sheet isnt plug n play. Carson wentz might not even be in a browns uni right now if we had drafted him the other year

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5 hours ago, gumby73 said:

Did ya watch Colts at Tenn.? Tenn. comes in on short week. Mariota was forced to stay in pocket due to knee sprain. Taylor Lewan draws a healthier Garrett. Ogbah gets Jack Conklin:(. Colts got 1 sack from a OLB..G.Williams may only have 1 area code to go get the QB..but damn is Tenn. loaded at TE & WR. Still all starts with stopping the run.

Mariotta looked awesome in the pocket. I do not think Lewan and Conklin are unbeatable, and certainly our edge players are better than the Colts.

Titans' run game? Stuff between the tackles, something we have done quite well, and that's diminished considerably and with it their PAP game. Murray is an edge threat... and we know we have edge issues at times, but not all the time.

The key will be if Mariotta is healthy enough to be a threat in the run read-option. He was clearly not Monday nite, yet the Colts still honored him as a threat. If he's not, we must not. If he is, we are in trouble, but we have to make him test that hammie to its fullest early.

The pass read-option? We have to go man on any motion and live or die with that match up, and let the DE force MM to pass... something again the Colts failed to do.

Walker is their TE threat and a legit one at that. They do have Decker leading a nice WR Corps as MM's fav target and Taywan can take the top off a D, but the rest shouldn't scare us. And again if MM is not running, then we can go man-under and match up pretty well... if we can muster some pressure and make MM move more than a couple feet off his mark.

 

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5 hours ago, jiggins7919 said:

Well, stopping the run is about the only thing our team is good at, so I feel pretty decent about that.  Of course, facing Murray and Henry doesn't sound too fun to ME, but hopefully we'll continue to get decent penetration and gang tackling.  

My main concern is our red zone defense.  The Colts-Titans game really shouldn't have been close if Tennessee executed better in the red zone, and what's the best cure for an ailing red zone offense?  Why, it's playing the Cleveland Browns, of course.  It also doesn't help that Mariota is extremely accurate when he's on his game, and he isn't afraid to hit the TE on short and deep routes.  We've made some no-name TE's look like Ozzie Newsome this year, so if you need some Draft Kings gambling advice for fantasy football, pick up the Titans' TE and start him.  You likely won't be disappointed.  

As far as Garrett is concerned, I wouldn't be surprised if he took a little step back and came away with zero sacks this game.  I still think he'll play well against the run and get some pressure, but I expect opposing OC's to really game plan for Garrett, and do whatever they can to mitigate his presence.  This will potentially open the door for someone like Ogbah or Nassib, and if they have solid games, we could keep the game close.  If they play poorly, it might be a long day.  

Ogbah and nassib will be ogbah and nassib. We know who these guys are now. Same with orchard. Think of it this way.....neither of those guys got home against the jets. Against cincy i think ogbah may have gotten one, not sure how that sack went down i didnt watch it. But these guys are pedestrian characters against really bad o lineman. 

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On 10/18/2017 at 2:05 PM, Clevfan4life said:

Ogbah and nassib will be ogbah and nassib. We know who these guys are now. Same with orchard. Think of it this way.....neither of those guys got home against the jets. Against cincy i think ogbah may have gotten one, not sure how that sack went down i didnt watch it. But these guys are pedestrian characters against really bad o lineman. 

 

Ogbah made the play of his young career against the Bengals.  Beat his man, knocked the ball from Dalton's hand, and I think he may have recovered it.  Not sure.  But it was a tremendous play that gave our team the ball in Bengals' territory.  Obviously we screwed it up, but you already knew that.  Pretty sure that was the drive where Britt fell down on 3rd and 8, and he wasn't able to locate the ball...which was perfectly thrown btw.  It would've been 1st and ten, or 1st and goal.  Alas, Britt screwed it up, we tried a FG, and we missed it.  Naturally.  

As you indicated, these plays are few and far between for Ogbah.  Not only that, Ogbah is getting blocked too easily by one man, and he's not doing a great job of "setting the edge".  Nassib isn't special either, but the one thing he has is a nonstop motor...which is better than nothing.  Garrett will have several chances to make a play, but he's not going to sneak up on anybody.  The Titans will be very ready for him, and they'll probably do things like roll the pocket away from him, double team him, chip him with a RB, or whatever else they can think of to mitigate Garrett's vast physical abilities.  And it's worth noting that Garrett is approaching 100% health, which is pretty scary.  He needs his ankle to be completely healthy so he can access his full toolbox, primarily his "bend" that enables him to get so low while driving hard.  That bend places tremendous strain on the ankle, and it's likely he doesn't totally trust it yet.  So far he hasn't had an injury setback (knock on wood...twice), and that's incredible.  Ankles are funny things that seem to never heal, but it's encouraging to see Garrett getting better and healthier each week.  

If we just had somebody else to pick up the slack, we'd be dangerous to face on 3rd down.  

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