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Looked good on the one play he made the sack.  Keep it up!

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Just now, wargograw said:

Didn't watch today. How'd he look?

Good and bad..... The sacks will get the headlines, but on his other 11 plays he was just there. Dude isn't 100% for sure and hopefully he doesn't regress injury wise. 

There was a lot to be hopeful about though. 

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U can see how even at 75% or less he's head and shoulders above our other DE's. Thats maddening. When he geys his speed to power back he's going to be unblockable by these low end o lines

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His knife through on that first sack was an eye opener. Just stupid fast and agile. Unfortunately u can seenhis change of direction is affected. He also cant gangsta lean around the edge which he did like a boss in preseason. Dudes got a ways to go before he's ready. Id shut him down next week if his ankle is gimpy at all

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Myles was gimpy.  

His first play he darted left then right sneaking between two guys right up the middle and came upon McCown so fast that McCown just assumed the 'I'm tackled' position.  But later on your could see that he shouldn't have been out there.....limping about.

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1 hour ago, wargograw said:

Didn't watch today. How'd he look?

War, I think you played? I played TE at Toledo as a failed walk on after ankle sprains & am still looking at tape. But if I tell you coming off a high ankle sprain your going to play somewhere before half. Than sit Half. than were going to stick you back in, Oh lets say about 11:10 of 4th how tight is your ankle again?In 4th quarter at 11:18 Naz goes down.At 11:10-11:02 Myles stays home makes play to sidelines limping.Stays on at 10:50.On still hopping at 10:12.At 9:35 Myles attemps a slow spin on a TE,Myles comes off & Naz returns for rest of game from 8:35. next play 1st & 10 TD Kerse..(still looking last appearance in 1st half but Kwan Williams exit comes to mind) Also see Odel did not make it thru whole game either.got to get a run in,look later

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I'm betting he sits next week I could not understand why they didn't keep that leg warmed up on a stationary bike unless the reason was he was done until Nassib had to leave the game.

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Just for perspective, dude gets two sacks within 10 snaps playing hurt, nowhere near 100%. Do our other DE's have that many sacks in 5 Shmucking games? If that doesnt enlighten some of u dumbasses as to our talent gap i dont know what other pie chart is needed to illustrate how Retarded we are at trading down

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I'm certainly HOPING Garrett doesn't have to sit next week, but it's certainly hard to imagine his ankle will have the needed time to heal.  I don't know if he tweeked it, or if it's just sore, but it's obvious he was hurting pretty bad during his last play.  What really hurts is you get a taste of what this guy can do, and it's completely obvious that if he's healthy, there's no way anybody is going to block him consistently.  He's about the biggest rascal I've ever seen, and he's going to put the hurtin' on people for a LONG time.  Let's not panic yet, it's very possible that he didn't hurt it further, and it's just sore.  Sprained ankles don't generally "heal" quickly, and they freaking linger forever.  They get sore and they pissed off if you use them too much.  Hopefully the treatment he receives makes him available this weekend.  

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He needs to be shut down until he is 100%..... anything else is bad coaching. 

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I didnt see where it was horribly bothering him, i think its just sore. He might sit next week and then get another 10-15 snaps the following week. We'd be doing the right thing by throttling him up then down for awhile. This seasons a wash. We're gonna have new DE's next year anyway. No way williams agrees to nas, og or orchard starting opposite garrett next year

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Nasibb nor Shelton scratched the score-sheet.Burgess,Taylor,McCourty,Kirksey,Ogbah all led in tackles at 4.5. Naz & Orch had a tough-day despite Myles playing time. We held the ball 34mins our D played 26 mins. Us 22 1st downs..Jets 14..On your Offense at that point Huie..  

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16 hours ago, gumby73 said:

But if I tell you coming off a high ankle sprain your going to play somewhere before half. Than sit Half. than were going to stick you back in, Oh lets say about 11:10 of 4th how tight is your ankle again?In 4th quarter at 11:18 Naz goes down.At 11:10-11:02 Myles stays home makes play to sidelines limping.Stays on at 10:50.On still hopping at 10:12.At 9:35 Myles attemps a slow spin on a TE,Myles comes off & Naz returns for rest of game from 8:35.

15 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said:

I'm betting he sits next week I could not understand why they didn't keep that leg warmed up on a stationary bike unless the reason was he was done until Nassib had to leave the game.

I've had and played on "low" ankle sprains. I couldn't keep them "loose". Best I could do is ice them between series to minimize the swelling, and pain which got to be pretty serious as a game wore on. Swelling under a tape job is no fun.

Is a high sprain different?

14 hours ago, Clevfan4life said:

I didnt see where it was horribly bothering him, i think its just sore. He might sit next week and then get another 10-15 snaps the following week. We'd be doing the right thing by throttling him up then down for awhile. This seasons a wash. We're gonna have new DE's next year anyway. No way williams agrees to nas, og or orchard starting opposite garrett next year

Early, no, but as gum was saying, late when he filled in for Nassib, he was limping badly between plays... and I don't care if it's the best blocking TE in the world, a healthy MG eats that Jet TE alive. He was unable to test him despite retaining a quick first-step.

As for DEs... I thought Og played well again. Until we see multiple games of Myles opposite Og and Nassib, I do not see us prioritizing Edge DEs in the Draft. FA? Maybe...

 

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32 minutes ago, Tour2ma said:

I've had and played on "low" ankle sprains. I couldn't keep them "loose". Best I could do is ice them between series to minimize the swelling, and pain which got to be pretty serious as a game wore on. Swelling under a tape job is no fun.

Is a high sprain different?

Early, no, but as gum was saying, late when he filled in for Nassib, he was limping badly between plays... and I don't care if it's the best blocking TE in the world, a healthy MG eats that Jet TE alive. He was unable to test him despite retaining a quick first-step.

As for DEs... I thought Og played well again. Until we see multiple games of Myles opposite Og and Nassib, I do not see us prioritizing Edge DEs in the Draft. FA? Maybe...

 

Og was below meciocre as usual. I agree we have too many needs to draft a DE high again, but yes in FA we absolutely need a seasoned vet ippisite garrett. As of right now ansah is the only guy i see on next years FA list that i give a Shmuck about but whi knows someone else could come free.

i wouldnt be adverse to packaging up ogbah with other players for an established guy.

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8 hours ago, Tour2ma said:

I've had and played on "low" ankle sprains. I couldn't keep them "loose". Best I could do is ice them between series to minimize the swelling, and pain which got to be pretty serious as a game wore on. Swelling under a tape job is no fun.

Is a high sprain different?

not sure this will load T, NOPE.. but,  Your totally correct on the taping T. And that's the real problem with the High sprain. I preferred the tape to be somewhat snug for support but when swelling continues the pain to nerve tissue is ridiculous.So to answer your question. Your right on the icing it.. till ya play on it..as you said. High or low the pain & swelling is no differences but the length of time of healing High is weeks longer. Could be 2, Could be extra 4.  Myles 2nd sack came in 2qrt. was his last play till 4th qrt. which I can only assume Myles was re-taped at halftime? or not & done..The correct Myles plan imo would have been 1st half only knowing not to risk it after Half due to swelling tightness. Telling that to a -4 game loss Myles (with 2 sacks smelling the trifecta) might have been a different story in a winnable game when Naz went down?  EDIT-- Clev. your way off base on your hater Ogbah..The Kat has stayed pretty much injury free every down in 20 NFL Games leading us in OL tackles..That's not a guy you bundle in a trade anywhere..It's Naz & Orchard job to beat Ogbah off his position..The competition level at team DE position is what will make this team better.Push equals close the gap for your playing time at position. And right now that same problem is all over on both sides of the ball in key positions..

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Draft is BPA and if that says edge rusher - so be it.   

I want this team to have an identity and if that means having a top 3 dline, then I'm perfectly ok with it.  

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2 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said:

Garrett is the only #1 overall defensive pick going back to 1982 to record 2 sacks in his first game despite limited play.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000857738/article/myles-garrett-starts-career-with-two-sacks-vs-jets

yeah but by the fourth qtr the bulls were running loose in the china shop again. He was not ready to go out there and will probably be out even longer now.

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As Ghoolie told you..... Garrett is done. Fragile, and he is a sissy, Zumba instructor.

The entire second half he looked like Stan. No motion, no drive, really, this guy is a pooooosie. Total waste of a #1  #1. Weak, lazy, 

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On 10/8/2017 at 6:00 PM, Clevfan4life said:

Just for perspective, dude gets two sacks within 10 snaps playing hurt, nowhere near 100%. Do our other DE's have that many sacks in 5 Shmucking games? If that doesnt enlighten some of u dumbasses as to our talent gap i dont know what other pie chart is needed to illustrate how Retarded we are at trading down

The sacks were not impressive. He broke through a NO BLOCK and barely hit the QB on sack 1, and sack two the QB happened to run in front of him. Garrett sucks gopher dikc.

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Glad we don't have a pansy like JJ Watt either. He's a waste of a roster spot.... always injured. What a pussy

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Ghoolie said:

The sacks were not impressive. He broke through a NO BLOCK and barely hit the QB on sack 1, and sack two the QB happened to run in front of him. Garrett sucks gopher dikc.

No no, i know exactly what i saw...u dont. Ill give you that you know some stuff about some other things, but you have "zero" eye for front 7 mechanics. On a bad ankle garrett ghosted undrneath the guard and center and steamrolled mccown, made them look silly..like they didnt oniw the ball gad been hiked yet. 

Ob the 2nd sack garett ripped around the corner but because of that ankle he couldnt lean in like he was during preseason..tried to go around the corner more or less completely vertical. So his initial rush didnt go anywhere but when mccown tried to step up and spill out garrett immediately spun back to the inside and lunged at mccown from behind. Its not the most imoressive sack ever but mccown didnt run into him and for a guy with a clearly bum ankle its a heck of a hustle play. Dont argue with me about how the sacks transpired.

The latger point id like to make to u is why cant u just say man, that kid showed some heart. He showed more heart in ~10 snaps then our other DE's gave in 4-5 games. Im not calling this kid the answer to our prayers, he may have a decent game here or there but flame out...time will tell.

i just cant understand why you cant just say "meh, not bad kid". All the things you claimed about this kids heart and work ethic, which we are all dubious on in the first place....at least for one game has been proven null. So just own it for one game, just say "maybe i was wrong about the kid but we'll see, time will tell". Thats a fair statement. I stead ur trying to make Sheet up because it appears you want garrett to be a failure, and that i cant understand even if u are just trolling. Good trolling needs to have competent foundation from which to launch trolls. If the kid keeps playing alright and figuring out ways to be productive even while not at 100%.....than ur trolls come off as something else. 

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12 minutes ago, Clevfan4life said:

No no, i know exactly what i saw...u dont. Ill give you that you know some stuff about some other things, but you have "zero" eye for front 7 mechanics. On a bad ankle garrett ghosted undrneath the guard and center and steamrolled mccown, made them look silly..like they didnt oniw the ball gad been hiked yet. 

Ob the 2nd sack garett ripped around the corner but because of that ankle he couldnt lean in like he was during preseason..tried to go around the corner more or less completely vertical. So his initial rush didnt go anywhere but when mccown tried to step up and spill out garrett immediately spun back to the inside and lunged at mccown from behind. Its not the most imoressive sack ever but mccown didnt run into him and for a guy with a clearly bum ankle its a heck of a hustle play. Dont argue with me about how the sacks transpired.

The latger point id like to make to u is why cant u just say man, that kid showed some heart. He showed more heart in ~10 snaps then our other DE's gave in 4-5 games. Im not calling this kid the answer to our prayers, he may have a decent game here or there but flame out...time will tell.

i just cant understand why you cant just say "meh, not bad kid". All the things you claimed about this kids heart and work ethic, which we are all dubious on in the first place....at least for one game has been proven null. So just own it for one game, just say "maybe i was wrong about the kid but we'll see, time will tell". Thats a fair statement. I stead ur trying to make Sheet up because it appears you want garrett to be a failure, and that i cant understand even if u are just trolling. Good trolling needs to have competent foundation from which to launch trolls. If the kid keeps playing alright and figuring out ways to be productive even while not at 100%.....than ur trolls come off as something else. 

He's been calling him 2 tackle Texas since forever. The least he can do is now is call him 2 sack Texas. Do that every game and who cares what Dr. G thinks.

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