Jump to content
Alkid3

Haden a Steeler

Recommended Posts

31 minutes ago, miktoxic said:

just like all the commies and powderpuffs on here that hide behind a flag and someone else holding it.

Xs and Os are great....now pick up your balls and put on some man pants Sashi and Hue.

 

that's all right they'll all be gone next year............just like texas and california.

"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The way the deal is structured it has been described as $7 mil this year and $10 mil options for 2018 and 2019. So it depends on which Joe Haden Pgh gets. If it is the one from 2014 and before, they look pretty smart. If it is the one from the last two seasons, not a huge downside as they don't have to exercise the club options. 

I now understand why they did this.

What I don't understand is how they have such good luck with mid round wide receivers but can't draft good defensive backs to save their soul.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The Steelers seem to like our 1st round pick CB's.  No matter how bad they are.

The last couple of years Haden has been chasing receivers running down the field with the ball.  I like him...but I can't even wish him well because he went to the freakin' steelers!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
17 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said:

"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

i strive to bring out the idiocy of powderpuffs and safe space dwellers.

you should be glad to know you are added to the list.

dingleberry.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
10 minutes ago, miktoxic said:

i strive to bring out the idiocy of powderpuffs and safe space dwellers.

you should be glad to know you are added to the list.

dingleberry.

Lighten up, Francis.

  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
12 hours ago, Dutch Oven said:

Lighten up, Francis.

:lol:

Oh yeah the lighter side of TBB.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
18 hours ago, Ghoolie said:

However, if he winds up kicking ass for the Steelers...

It's possible and releasing him could still have been the right move. We won't play much zone; PTG will. Joe used to excel in man... either press or off; now... no.

17 hours ago, The Gipper said:

Gafraleets best post ever above.

Unparalleled economy of words...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
15 hours ago, Dutch Oven said:

Lighten up, Francis.

ok francine.

you pillow biting homo.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 hours ago, miktoxic said:

ok francine.

you pillow biting homo.

You are adorable.

Dumb as a box of rocks, but adorable nevertheless.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
10 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said:

You are adorable.

Dumb as a box of rocks, but adorable nevertheless.

Miktoxic is the man. Tread carefully pilgrim.  You don't want dat dick, boy. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 

35 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said:

You are adorable.

Everyone has to embrace at least one of our curmudgeons... I think it's in our bylaws...

I also chose mik.

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, PoeticG said:

Miktoxic is the man. Tread carefully pilgrim.  You don't want dat dick, boy. 

Slow-witted birds of a feather flock together, I suppose.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I was just lookin out for ya noob. No offense. I'm being serious, tryin to help you out, you don't want dat dick boy. It's a jungle in 'ere.

 

Keep yo head down and talk football. ;) son

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, Tour2ma said:

 

Everyone has to embrace at least one of our curmudgeons... I think it's in our bylaws...

I also chose mik.

mik's the best damn curmudgeon on this board bar none. Didn't we make him King or something? here's to mik! :P

UntappdCurmudgeonSupplemental.jpg

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 8/31/2017 at 1:38 PM, Gafreleets said:

 

Again though, if soooo bad that he was a liability and this is actually addition by subtraction for the Clowns.....

 

Then why were they offering him 7mill to stay?

 

I understand what we're getting. He won't even be the best on our team, but he's a starting caliber CB in the NFL and the browns, the Steelers, the cowgirls, and at least 3 other teams tried to retain/obtain his services.

 

Maybe he's not the dumpster fire people here are trying to make him out to be? 

They weren't offering him 7 mil to stay as a new contract they were trying to cut down his current contract to 7 million. He was already under contract they weren't offering him a new one. Can you see the difference?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
11 hours ago, Tour2ma said:

It's possible and releasing him could still have been the right move. We won't play much zone; PTG will. Joe used to excel in man... either press or off; now... no.

Unparalleled economy of words...

Agreed. This is one of those stories that lends itself to sensationalism. If he does well, some will make fun of the Browns for doing a dumb thing. OTH if he blows, Browns can laugh at the Steelers. As you implied, the only thing that matters is was releasing him right for the Browns. Williams defense is aggressive, I am thinking he wants guys who keeps receivers in front of them and who can bang. Haden doesnt' seem to be a Williams type player from what I have seen in preseason.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 8/31/2017 at 3:08 PM, Westside Steve said:

No shit logic. Hey Zombo isn't it about time for a name change here?

 

WSS

I'll second that.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, Ghoolie said:

Agreed. This is one of those stories that lends itself to sensationalism. If he does well, some will make fun of the Browns for doing a dumb thing. OTH if he blows, Browns can laugh at the Steelers. As you implied, the only thing that matters is was releasing him right for the Browns. Williams defense is aggressive, I am thinking he wants guys who keeps receivers in front of them and who can bang. Haden doesnt' seem to be a Williams type player from what I have seen in preseason.

Which is nothing. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

59aa487939cc7_Screen00002.jpg.2a28f151cc2e3a8feab99bef7a32cf3f.jpgPIT needed help at the position.

Haden will be their #1 CB with Burns as the #2 and suddenly PIT has 2 good CB's.

Hopefully, this will be a positive move for both teams.

See you in CLE on September 10th.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
9 hours ago, Dick Mellon said:

59aa487939cc7_Screen00002.jpg.2a28f151cc2e3a8feab99bef7a32cf3f.jpgPIT needed help at the position.

Haden will be their #1 CB with Burns as the #2 and suddenly PIT has 2 good CB's.

Hopefully, this will be a positive move for both teams.

See you in CLE on September 10th.

 

I think it is debatable if Pitt will have 2 good CBs.  Joe was cut because the Browns felt they had 3-4 guys that were definitely better.....and no one around here has acclaimed that the Browns have a great defensive backfield.  

So...if  well below average is your standard of what is good.....more power to you.    As noted, Joe may fit better in a zone D.   No longer in mano a mano.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, The Gipper said:

I think it is debatable if Pitt will have 2 good CBs.  Joe was cut because the Browns felt they had 3-4 guys that were definitely better.....and no one around here has acclaimed that the Browns have a great defensive backfield.  

So...if  well below average is your standard of what is good.....more power to you.    As noted, Joe may fit better in a zone D.   No longer in mano a mano.

That's not true Gip. I've am stating that the HAD one of the best backfields out there.

Vintage and a Heathy Joe Haden. Jamar Taylor. Body-Count. Peppers. Kindred. Pryor. I would be perfectly content with that backfield over ANY other in the NFL. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Make no mistake. 

Joe is 100% again and every bit worth the contract he was given two years ago.

 

We fucked up. Just admit it. We got cute and disrespected Joe and be burned us for doing so. 

 

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, PoeticG said:

That's not true Gip. I've am stating that the HAD one of the best backfields out there.

Vintage and a Heathy Joe Haden. Jamar Taylor. Body-Count. Peppers. Kindred. Pryor. I would be perfectly content with that backfield over ANY other in the NFL. 

Well, your reputation for talent evaluation is not very stellar.  I will rely on my own.  Show me one objective resourse  that rates the Browns defensive backfield as "one of the better backfields out there"    I doubt it can be done.  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Colt McCoy was the best QB we had on the roster when I called for him to start, as noted by him still being employed and if the team had been built up around him he could have succeeded.

We haven't been able to run the ball like we did when we had Lawrence Vickers at FB. 

Trent Richardson had a better season his rookie year with Weeden at QB than Crowell has had in 3 seasons.  

Tyrann Mathiew is a really good player... who did we take just before he went? McFadden- Does he even play anymore?

Derek Carr IS a Franchise QB.

Kevin Hogan IS this teams best all around QB.

Joe Haden WAS this teams best DB.

 

Devalue my talent evaluation if you must, but I've been solid IMO.

  • Haha 1
  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 8/31/2017 at 2:30 PM, LogicIsForSquares said:

 

14 hours ago, bjh2130 said:

They weren't offering him 7 mil to stay as a new contract they were trying to cut down his current contract to 7 million. He was already under contract they weren't offering him a new one. Can you see the difference?

 

 

Yes, but do you understand that whether it was a new contract or restructuring of a old one....... they were STILL willing to pay him 7mill a year.

 

That's just not something you do for someone who isn't starter capable or is (as one of your posters said) the 4th or 5th best CB on the team.

 

Know what every other team in the NFL pays CBs that aren't starter capable or are the 4th or 5th best CB on their team?

 

Me neither, but I guarantee it isn't 7 million dollars.

 

So must be something left in the tank if you guys were willing to part with that type of money.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


×