darren15 Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 http://nfltraderumors.co/browns-aggressively-trying-trade-cb-joe-haden/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeonman Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 I'm sure it's very true. No one will pick up that insane contract for a guy on the decline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFBF Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 Hearing this as well: http://cle.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Browns-aggressively-trying-to-trade-Joe-Haden-106618231 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambridgeho Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 If we can get a starting wr out of the deal, f it. Haden has been broken for a while, and when he is on the field , he gets smoked for 3 hours like a rack of ribs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkid3 Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 Damn. Haden has been my favorite player for years. But honestly he hasn't been all pro anything in years. I hate to say it but if we can pick up a legit receiver. I'd be alright with this. But I can't see it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 Not surprised here at all.....Good dude, who's best football is behind him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFBF Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 I think his biggest problem is he's been hurt one way or another the past few Seasons. Still a good Player, but he's starting to accumulate injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Make-Believe Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 I wish Haden was good again rather than being potentially dealt. Love the guy and the ideal scenario would be to have the Haden of a few years ago still on the team. I don't think you COULD trade him now if you wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 Debate seems to be whether Joe is the 3rd or 4th best CB on our roster. But this is the last year that he is uber-expensive to part with... so I doubt he goes anywhere now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 I think we might be trying to trade him for a receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 Uhmm....that is all fine well and good...if you think Joe isn't much up to snuff anymore. But...here is the problem: who the fuck do the Browns have to replace him that is better? McCourty? Boddy-Calhoun? Channing Stribling? Browns did NOT invest any draft picks in CB. They picked up a couple of FAs and a UDFA in Stribling. Again, tell me who is going to be the starter if he goes, and who will play nickel, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runyon27 Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 19 minutes ago, The Gipper said: Uhmm....that is all fine well and good...if you think Joe isn't much up to snuff anymore. But...here is the problem: who the fuck do the Browns have to replace him that is better? McCourty? Boddy-Calhoun? Channing Stribling? Browns did NOT invest any draft picks in CB. They picked up a couple of FAs and a UDFA in Stribling. Again, tell me who is going to be the starter if he goes, and who will play nickel, etc. I agree we don't have a lot of depth there, I would rather hold on to Haden this year and then take the cap hit next year if we decide to release him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 Boddy-Calhoun is better from what I have seen this preseason. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 At this point, Joe is only out there because of his name. I'm sure one of the young, cheaper dudes will do just as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 44 minutes ago, The Gipper said: But...here is the problem: who the fuck do the Browns have to replace him that is better? McCourty? Boddy-Calhoun? Channing Stribling? Browns did NOT invest any draft picks in CB. They picked up a couple of FAs and a UDFA in Stribling. Again, tell me who is going to be the starter if he goes, and who will play nickel, etc. Pretty much a consensus that Taylor and McCourty have outplayed Haden, and opinions are split on who is better between Joe and BBC. And we drafted Wilson out of UH who cracked his knee cap in camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 I can appreciate that Haden bleeds orange and brown and has been an admirable cheerleader for the team.. But clearly.. His best days are behind him.. Good luck, Joe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20495844/cleveland-browns-open-trade-offers-veteran-cb-joe-haden This report out there today as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Zombo said: Boddy-Calhoun is better from what I have seen this preseason. Zombo So, you put him in as starter.....then what about nickel and backup? Waiver wire disjecta membra? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 49 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: Pretty much a consensus that Taylor and McCourty have outplayed Haden, and opinions are split on who is better between Joe and BBC. And we drafted Wilson out of UH who cracked his knee cap in camp. Wilson is listed a like 5th string...and not a factor currently. (maybe some time in the far future?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 So.....LB Cam Johnson and S Ed Reynolds also shown the door apparently: From ESPN: Also Tuesday, the Browns terminated the contract of defensive lineman Cam Johnson and waived defensive back Ed Reynolds II with an injury designation. Both players suffered knee injuries in camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 50 minutes ago, The Gipper said: Wilson is listed a like 5th string...and not a factor currently. (maybe some time in the far future?). Simply reflects that he's hurt... same as Bito and Danny currently being at the ass end of the LG and NT lines. I was very happy to see Wilson's name on one of our cards on Draft-day. I thought he has a shot to be a good one... still do. Hope to see him later this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 30 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: Simply reflects that he's hurt... same as Bito and Danny currently being at the ass end of the LG and NT lines. I was very happy to see Wilson's name on one of our cards on Draft-day. I thought he has a shot to be a good one... still do. Hope to see him later this year. Difference is that Bito and Shelton have somewhat proven themselves in the NFL. No such thing with Wilson. That said, what is his prognosis? Injury list the entire season? Or does he have a chance to get in there perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 1 hour ago, The Gipper said: So, you put him in as starter.....then what about nickel and backup? Waiver wire disjecta membra? We've got McCourty too. Pick up a 4th corner in the trade or a separate trade. Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 Just now, Zombo said: We've got McCourty too. Pick up a 4th corner in the trade or a separate trade. Z Not down with Stribling? I would think that Woody would be in here drooling over the fact that this rumor may give another FMU boy a spot on this roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 5 minutes ago, Zombo said: We've got McCourty too. Pick up a 4th corner in the trade or a separate trade. Z = pick up a reject Z. Our secondary is bad enough as it is. If the Browns truly think Joe is shot- no GM in his right mind is going to be interested. Been pointed out- to move him, we're going to have to eat a large part of his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 44 minutes ago, hoorta said: = pick up a reject Z. Our secondary is bad enough as it is. If the Browns truly think Joe is shot- no GM in his right mind is going to be interested. Been pointed out- to move him, we're going to have to eat a large part of his contract. We have the cap room or the ability to eat part of his contract (been reported Browns are willing to do the same thing with Asswhiler in order to move him) and if the return package is good enough, Id think the Browns would be definitely willing to pay a part of the contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opal312 Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 They should have traded him last year but yes this is true. They are shopping Haden, Osweiler and Erving as reported by CBS Sports and the NFL NETWORK CBS SPORTS QUOTE; "The Browns are comfortable moving forward with Jamar Taylor, Jason McCourty and Briean Boddy-Calhoun" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 3 hours ago, The Gipper said: Difference is that Bito and Shelton have somewhat proven themselves in the NFL. No such thing with Wilson. That said, what is his prognosis? Injury list the entire season? Or does he have a chance to get in there perhaps? No... no difference whatsoever. When you're hurt your name goes into parentheses and to the end of the line. That's just how it's done. Experience is irrelevant to that standard depth chart practice. Original determination was a cracked (broken) patella and no additional damage to tendons or ligaments... a/k/a best possible news, but that "some games" would be missed. Since then info has been scarce and confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopDawg31 Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 Reading between the lines on this one, Haden is getting cut if we don't trade him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkid3 Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 19 minutes ago, TopDawg31 said: Reading between the lines on this one, Haden is getting cut if we don't trade him. There's no way we cut him. What do the Saints have that we want. Because if anyone needs CB it's them. And they tried to trade for him in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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