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Unsympathetic    122

To be fair, "starter arm with a backup game" describes the first season of Ben's career as well. And Favre's.  And Aaron Rodgers'.  That's just three HallOfFamers I can think of pre-coffee this morning.

Dan Marino's not buying a house in Berea any time soon.. need to move those "expectations" to more realistic ones.

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TexasAg1969    588

From the article:

"I'm not arguing with the verdict. I'm just telling you there aren't many people around the league who think Kizer should be an NFL starter in Week 1. "

 

OK-so? When he's the best you have you deal with it and make him better. Bottom line.

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Westside Steve    1,714
7 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said:

From the article:

"I'm not arguing with the verdict. I'm just telling you there aren't many people around the league who think Kizer should be an NFL starter in Week 1. "

 

OK-so? When he's the best you have you deal with it and make him better. Bottom line.

No Doubt. Just saw a rare article without the hearts and flowers. I'm not one of the sit and learn stalwarts, but I do realize there's a chance of a career-threatening injury coming out of the gate.

Hit that 20, there are four aces in the deck.

WSS

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calfoxwc    1,175

Yep. If Osweiler had shown that he could give the Browns a better chance, he would be the guy.

but he didn't. Too bad for Kizer - but this team wants to win, and win now. and they have the defense

that can back it up. Kizer has the mental makeup - very, very smart, and has the mental strength to handle

adversity. He can do it, let him roll with it. Os hasn't mastered his fundamentals after all this time, he just

isn't athletic enough. too bad - Kizer sure the heck IS.

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The Gipper    1,168
20 hours ago, TopDawg31 said:

We never play in January, just sayin

actually I think the last regular season game is scheduled to be played in January.  So YOU ARE WRONG, WRONG, WRONG....:P:lol:

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Tour2ma    1,423
13 hours ago, Ghoolie said:

He is also going to get injured pretty early on. Perhaps as early as the Steeler game. He holds on to the fucking ball too long, and he is a run-first QB. Not a good combination.

Eight carries in roughly a two-game equivalent = "run-first"?

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The Gipper    1,168
1 hour ago, TexasAg1969 said:

From the article:

"I'm not arguing with the verdict. I'm just telling you there aren't many people around the league who think Kizer should be an NFL starter in Week 1. "

 

OK-so? When he's the best you have you deal with it and make him better. Bottom line.

"Many people" don't matter....only 1 person matters:  Hue Jackson.   And he has had his say.

Fair to say?

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The Gipper    1,168

I am only looking for a reason to be hopeful.  

Kizer has given us that in the last two games.  Of course we have no clue if that optimism will linger after a few regular season games.  But as I said, the operative term is "hope".

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TexasAg1969    588
1 hour ago, Westside Steve said:

No Doubt. Just saw a rare article without the hearts and flowers. I'm not one of the sit and learn stalwarts, but I do realize there's a chance of a career-threatening injury coming out of the gate.

Hit that 20, there are four aces in the deck.

WSS

Yep, I took 6th place in a Texas Hold 'em tournament when I went all in with a pair of jacks against which I guessed correctly was an ace high hand. On the river she hit that one out 3 aces left and I settled for lesser money. Shit!:P

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Ghoolie    384
52 minutes ago, Tour2ma said:

Eight carries in roughly a two-game equivalent = "run-first"?

Wait until the heat is turned up. Again, I believe he should have been named the starter from day one. I also hope this is my worst prediction ever and he turns out to be a great QB for us. I just don't see it.

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Ghoolie    384
4 hours ago, Westside Steve said:

Not only a chance for the Browns to finally hit it rich, God knows the team is due, but also a chance for all the frustrated pussies here for the first time to be able to come in here and say, "Ghoolie was wrong". Of course, as we all know, that ain't gonna happen. Black Tarkenton #2 being served up for the Steelers opening day party at a stadium near you, very soon.

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Tour2ma    1,423
12 minutes ago, Ghoolie said:

Wait until the heat is turned up. Again, I believe he should have been named the starter from day one. I also hope this is my worst prediction ever and he turns out to be a great QB for us. I just don't see it.

I get that... but we'll also be starting our #1's. Plus have to remember that half (I'm guestimating) of the 8 carries have been designed, read-option runs. I expect us to see 2-3 of the these per week.

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runyon27    41

All things being equal I would rather Kizer sit and learn as much as possible. I am happy he is progressing every week and he has shown flashes. Some of the things I have liked are in fact his decision making, throwing the ball away, looking down field when he scrambles, he even appears to move better in the pocket then most of the QBs we have had in the past. I have not seen anything that shows me he is looking to bail an run first to this point. I suspect there will be occassions where this does happen but I do not see this as a pervasive issue at this point. I will say the fact that we seems to be taking lots of shots down the field should help keep secondaries honest and keep them from creeping up and jumping routes, which was a failing of Kessler.

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The Gipper    1,168
1 hour ago, Ghoolie said:

Not only a chance for the Browns to finally hit it rich, God knows the team is due, but also a chance for all the frustrated pussies here for the first time to be able to come in here and say, "Ghoolie was wrong". Of course, as we all know, that ain't gonna happen. Black Tarkenton #2 being served up for the Steelers opening day party at a stadium near you, very soon.

I see no frustration by members here in saying "Ghoolie was wrong".  People take advantage of that opportunity every single day on here...don't they.

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TopDawg31    75
5 hours ago, The Gipper said:

actually I think the last regular season game is scheduled to be played in January.  So YOU ARE WRONG, WRONG, WRONG....:P:lol:

Nope Dec 31 I'm RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT

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The Gipper    1,168
22 minutes ago, TopDawg31 said:

Nope Dec 31 I'm RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT

OK, boss.  :blush:

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TopDawg31    75
12 minutes ago, The Gipper said:

OK, boss.  :blush:

But this year will be different, we will be playing in January.

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syd    22
22 hours ago, D Bone said:

So glad you're not running the team. 

of course you do not quote that I said Hogan should be are back up cause ossweiler and Kessler stink,so yes I would be looking at cuts for a veteran qb to back up kizer

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hoorta    900
17 hours ago, Tour2ma said:

I get that... but we'll also be starting our #1's. Plus have to remember that half (I'm guestimating) of the 8 carries have been designed, read-option runs. I expect us to see 2-3 of the these per week.

Kizer did some dumb things in the Giants game, like run to "prove to the team" I can take a hit. Ever stick your finger in a wall outlet to feel what electricity feels like? Hue told him to slide from now on. I agree about the read option stuff. The plus is we saw some pocket presence and mobility out of the guy.

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TexasAg1969    588

Good Morning Football on NFL Net discusses Kizer.

 

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gumby73    300
On 8/28/2017 at 6:20 PM, TopDawg31 said:

But this year will be different, we will be playing in January.

Am the Toledo,Ohio Homer of the board..If you feel losing the Mitch homer gets bad? Hell,yell at me :P(just remember Kizer went to a catholic HS & am grandma raised catholic,with legal papers) 

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LondonBrown    171
On 28/08/2017 at 4:55 PM, Tour2ma said:

Eight carries in roughly a two-game equivalent = "run-first"?

But, he's black. 

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Westside Steve    1,714

Actually if he wins the AFC North six times and takes the Browns to three Super Bowls I'm fine with the Fran Tarkenton reference.

I just dread hearing the black Weeden ref...

WSS

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Tour2ma    1,423
1 hour ago, Westside Steve said:

I just dread hearing the black Weeden ref...

lol... little chance of that... unless there's an unreleased SportsScience episode on the shelf somewhere... or a big, carnivorous flag laying in wait for him opening day...

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