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***Official Browns @ Buccaneers Preseason Game Night Thread***

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18 minutes ago, Clevfan4life said:

Its not excuses. Watt has been playing 2nd and 3rd string o lines. Garett has been up against all starters. And he's still establishing his space against them. 

You have to have a certain eye for different positions to accurately judge a player. If u didnt play football than sometimes u end up judging players purely on stats. Garett is forcing early throws. He's within a few feet ofbthe QB at delivery more than anyone else on the team.....so time to trade him while his stock is highest right??

never said trade him, just not seeing the best player in the draft talent yet. We've seen this production many times over in the past Warren, Brown nothing special to see here and again I'll say yet. Doesn't mean he wont be, but expected far more production from the once in a decade best player in the draft.

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3rd prevseason game mate. And no i dont remember courtney brown being around the qb this much this early. Garett doesnt even look like he's at full throttle either, at leadt not on every play. 

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3 minutes ago, Clevfan4life said:

3rd prevseason game mate. And no i dont remember courtney brown being around the qb this much this early. Garett doesnt even look like he's at full throttle either, at leadt not on every play. 

if thats the case his ass belongs on the bench and not in the starting lineup

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I wonder what Gregg Williams thinks. Surely he will demote him by game 1. Send him an email TD. I'm sure he will be impressed.:P

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1 hour ago, TopDawg31 said:

never said trade him, just not seeing the best player in the draft talent yet. We've seen this production many times over in the past Warren, Brown nothing special to see here and again I'll say yet. Doesn't mean he wont be, but expected far more production from the once in a decade best player in the draft.

Well, it took Javedon Clowney a couple years to start playing up to his #1 overall status. Just hope it doesn't take Garrett that long. It might be preseason, but you can bet teams are making sure they know where Myles is on every play. 

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18 hours ago, Clevfan4life said:

Tj has been playing alot if 2nd and 3rd team snaps.

Plus I know one of TJ's two sacks was due to a blown blocking assignment. Both occurred in his 1st preseason game.

"Watt's first two sacks were mostly acts of circumstance. The first was a result of Giants quarterback Josh Johnson getting flushed toward Watt. The rookie did a nice job to disengage from his block to pounce on the free meal. On the second, Watt was unblocked. The play looked like a screw up on the outside by New York on what should have been a receiver screen..."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000828979/article/tj-watt-hype-train-starts-fast-with-twosack-debut

18 hours ago, Mudfly said:

37 snaps....barely one third of a game.....but. hey, he's not living up to expectation.....(#ridiculoussourgrapes)

Lord... I hope we're not allowing 111 snaps per game. #math ;)

16 hours ago, TopDawg31 said:

if thats the case his ass belongs on the bench and not in the starting lineup

No DL is freed to rush the passer balls out every snap by his DC.

Some DCs may tolerate one of their players "doggin' it", but we don't have one of those.

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Lot'a post on Penalties.. They are at a high rate all over the league, so it's not only us. 90 man rosters.. so the refs imo can only tell coaches by flags what they are seeing.. The Browns were flagged 17 times this week by 17 different players.. With 3 being declined..DECLINED= JP Holtz-Holding..C.Pryor=Illegal use of hands..M.Martin=Holding..Consider #1. Penalty the best of any=Delay of Game to seal WIN..That's it..Here's the rest..#2.J.Collins=Encroachment on a FG. Gave TB new set of downs..#3Njoku=False Start..#4.J.Thomas=False Start..#5.C.Coleman=Offensive Pass Interference..#6.D.Kindred=Illegal use of hands..#7.K.Britt=Roughing..#8.D.Alexander=Holding on a punt..#9.M.Garrett=Neutral Zone....We made it to Halftime adjustments with 8 accepted..#10.M. Burley=Holding on a punt..#11.J.Burgess-Unsportsmanlike,D gets stop,till stupidity..#12. Stribling=Holding on a punt..#13. Naz-Neutral Zone..#14. J.Haden Illegal formation on a KO......Totals==5 on ST's.....4 on we can't move ahead of the ball....2 on WR's ...1 hold on DB..1 on stupidity..1 good penalty.. 14 Penalties carrying minus-91 Yards..Clean it Up Players & Coaches.. (Saints=12 accepted, 1 declined minus-72 yards....NYG=9 accepted,1 declined minus-70 yards)            

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