OldBrownsFan Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 So an Alabama politician was caught saying that special needs children are inconvenient, and we need to “move them out” of the general population. Name that party! That’s right, Ella Bell, Alabama Democrat, was caught promoting a Nazi-like program of shipping off kids to special schools. Says AL.com: “Is it against the law for us to establish perhaps an academy on special education or something on that order,” asked Bell, “so that our scores that already are not that good would not be further cut down by special-ed’s test scores involved?” When Bell’s colleagues mentioned LRE, she didn’t seem to understand. “It doesn’t matter about that. You can make it the least restrictive environment,” she said, “I’m trying to see if you can move them out.” They’re bringing down our statistics! We must segregate them for purity to show our superiority! Imagine if Roy Moore said it, what the reaction would be. But AL.com doesn’t even bother to mention her political party. Funny that. https://www.redstate.com/neil_stevens/2017/08/25/alabama-pol-calls-special-needs-concentration-camps/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 my opinion depends on what the alternate schools are all about. The right media clearly has an agenda here so they're calling it "camps" to try to illicit ww2 memories because they're the ones being smeared with the white supremacist Nazi shit right now, and rightly so because they are afterall currently in bed with right wing white supremacists running around waiving Nazi flags. If these schools for special needs kids are just places to dump them, yeah bullshit. If they're places that are actually properly funded and staffed by people who give a shit in truly helping these kids....than it's a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 Interesting. My best friend growing up was a fraternal twin and his brother had Down's Syndrome. He did not attend the same elementary school we went to that was just behind our back yards, but another school that had classes for students like him with special needs. I do not know how many such schools there were in Beaumont, though it may have been only that one. And I don't even know if other classes for non-special needs kids were also there in his school. Never thought to ask but I was just a kid who understood that he was "Retarded" and not able to compete with his brother and me in the same classroom. But on the plus side he got the normal neighborhood socialization since we all treated him as one of us on the block and not a "special" person to be shunned. Besides he was stronger than us and was good against bullies that might wander over from our school after hours. R.I.P. Paul. You were a great lesson in real friendship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OldBrownsFan Posted August 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 "What kind of society do you want to live in?": Inside the country where Down syndrome is disappearing With the rise of prenatal screening tests across Europe and the United States, the number of babies born with Down syndrome has significantly decreased, but few countries have come as close to eradicating Down syndrome births as Iceland. Since prenatal screening tests were introduced in Iceland in the early 2000s, the vast majority of women -- close to 100 percent -- who received a positive test for Down syndrome terminated their pregnancy. While the tests are optional, the government states that all expectant mothers must be informed about availability of screening tests, which reveal the likelihood of a child being born with Down syndrome. Around 80 to 85 percent of pregnant women choose to take the prenatal screening test, according to Landspitali University Hospital in Reykjavik. Other countries aren't lagging too far behind in Down syndrome termination rates. According to the most recent data available, the United States has an estimated termination rate for Down syndrome of 67 percent (1995-2011); in France it's 77 percent (2015); and Denmark, 98 percent (2015). The law in Iceland permits abortion after 16 weeks if the fetus has a deformity -- and Down syndrome is included in this category. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/down-syndrome-iceland/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 A lot of spice being added by red State I see. On your last post though, I see nothing wrong with termination of pregnancies to avoid deformities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 50 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: On your last post though, I see nothing wrong with termination of pregnancies to avoid deformities. Oh boy. Flak jackets on boys here it comes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 2 hours ago, MLD Woody said: A lot of spice being added by red State I see. On your last post though, I see nothing wrong with termination of pregnancies to avoid deformities. Is there anything wrong with terminating it for any reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted August 26, 2017 Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 "Peeks out from under bomb shelter" meh, that wasnt bad.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted August 26, 2017 Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Westside Steve said: Is there anything wrong with terminating it for any reason? Depends on when. It works from the gray area of potential life to life. Edge on the conservative side, but still allow it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted August 26, 2017 Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 3 hours ago, MLD Woody said: Depends on when. It works from the gray area of potential life to life. Edge on the conservative side, but still allow it. Through the second trimester? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted August 26, 2017 Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 I have very mixed feelings on the termination of Down's Syndrome fetuses. While intellectually I get it entirely, I also know that having a friend like Paul to grow up with was a very rewarding experience. They are often called "sunshine children" and with Paul that never changed even into his teens which is the last time I saw him before he died of cancer at 28. There has never been a better person in my life and he was really unaware that he was different that the rest of us in the neighborhood though his IQ was likely around 50-60. Occasionally I run into a parent with a Down's Syndrome child and I always go out of my way to tell her or him what a special person Paul was and that the world would be far the less without people like him in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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