nickers 1,019 Report post Posted July 22, 2017 http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/nba-trade-rumors-kyrie-irving-news-draymond-green-warriors-lebron-james/ty8aefa61ko11vdoz790pmbx8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjp28 1,578 Report post Posted July 22, 2017 Anyone surprised? Shocked? Not really a big deal? ....the business and drama professional sports and their prima dona stars.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nickers 1,019 Report post Posted July 22, 2017 Anyone surprised? Shocked? Not really a big deal? ....the business and drama professional sports and their prima dona stars.. You pretty much summed it up... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wargograw 363 Report post Posted July 22, 2017 Do people expect Lebron to bail at some point? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DieHardBrownsFan 3,938 Report post Posted July 22, 2017 They said he want's out because of Lebron. I'll bet all the players get sick of that asshole and his ego. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richiswhere 99 Report post Posted July 23, 2017 They said he want's out because of Lebron. I'll bet all the players get sick of that asshole and his ego. Yep they all get sick of going to the finals every year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjp28 1,578 Report post Posted July 23, 2017 Yep they all get sick of going to the finals every year LBJ, only one of the best ever with the playoff stats to prove it....and he's no Kobe type ball hog. Simple, no LBJ and they're lucky just to win one round in the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BaconHound 243 Report post Posted July 23, 2017 Not a shock Irving wants out. I think this ask is all on Lebron James but not because Lebron is a jerk or a difficult teammate but because he was smart and will be a free agent after next season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Gipper 3,799 Report post Posted July 24, 2017 Not a shock Irving wants out. I think this ask is all on Lebron James but not because Lebron is a jerk or a difficult teammate but because he was smart and will be a free agent after next season. i think it is all on Kyrie who is showing himself to be selfish and stupid. Any team with Kyrie as the "Alpha Dog"...as good as he is, would still be lucky to make .500....or even make the playoffs. (We had him here for 3 years without LeBron..and where were we?). Any team with LeBron is a championship contender. No one can win by themselves....but LeBron comes as close as anyone who has played to doing that. Kyrie can't. The old "he would rather be the big fish in the little pond" scenario for Kyrie I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canton Mike 1,744 Report post Posted July 24, 2017 i think it is all on Kyrie who is showing himself to be selfish and stupid. Any team with Kyrie as the "Alpha Dog"...as good as he is, would still be lucky to make .500....or even make the playoffs. (We had him here for 3 years without LeBron..and where were we?). Any team with LeBron is a championship contender. No one can win by themselves....but LeBron comes as close as anyone who has played to doing that. Kyrie can't. The old "he would rather be the big fish in the little pond" scenario for Kyrie I guess. Kyrie couldn't win before LBJ returned, can't hold a lead now when LBJ rests. I, for one, will welcome getting PLAYERS and ridding our Cavs of the "mad dribbling, low assist" Kyrie. He's very talented, but not a Team player. No great loss & MAY end up being a building block. Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LBC mike 271 Report post Posted July 25, 2017 They signed ? for a reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JPPT1974 17 Report post Posted July 25, 2017 Meaning he could be dealt with at anytime to come. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Gipper 3,799 Report post Posted July 25, 2017 What would you want in a trade for him? He says he would go to Minnesota....then how about getting Wiggins back for him? Plus maybe a draft pick. I am of the opinion that is they do trade him they should trade him to a team in the Western Conf. Why give him to teams that are in closer competition. Ergo, the Minnesota thing, to me, could be the best move. The T-wolves will not give you Carl Anthony Townes...but Wiggins could fit the bill. A good wing player, a good scorer, a good defender...and young. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stillmotion 440 Report post Posted July 25, 2017 Timberwolves wont trade for him. It's looking like our best bet is to trade shumpert frye and kyrie to the suns and knicks. Knicks trade us Carmelo, Suns give us Bledsoe, We give Shumpert and Frye to the Suns and Kyrie the Knicks might also give us a top pick. James Jones is lebrons boy and works for the suns and bledsoe has the same agent as us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Gipper 3,799 Report post Posted July 25, 2017 Timberwolves wont trade for him. It's looking like our best bet is to trade shumpert frye and kyrie to the suns and knicks. Knicks trade us Carmelo, Suns give us Bledsoe, We give Shumpert and Frye to the Suns and Kyrie the Knicks might also give us a top pick. James Jones is lebrons boy and works for the suns and bledsoe has the same agent as us. Why won't Minnesota trade for him. It seems that you make a blanket statement like that without any evidence or support. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stillmotion 440 Report post Posted July 25, 2017 Why won't Minnesota trade for him. It seems that you make a blanket statement like that without any evidence or support. Minnesota would have to give up Karl Anthony Towns which they won't. They just got Jeff Teague and Butler and they have big contracts. Teague for Irving isn't enough, and they won't flip him right after aquiring him. I doubt the cavs would accept wiggins for kyrie outright. And with wiggins for kyrie would we even improve? I just don't see it happening. I see Kyrie going potentially to the knicks. I doubt we trade them to our second biggest threat (the spurs). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richiswhere 99 Report post Posted July 26, 2017 LOL Wiggins is the worst defender in the NBA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
One Post 279 Report post Posted July 26, 2017 Oh goddamn you guys aren't this stupid are ya? Irving is pissy be cause of the D Rose talk then the signing. Come on man D Rose wont last and was to be a role player, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjp28 1,578 Report post Posted July 26, 2017 Oh goddamn you guys aren't this stupid are ya? Irving is pissy be cause of the D Rose talk then the signing. Come on man D Rose wont last and was to be a role player, Is the end of the Cavs and maybe Cleveland's short but exciting championship run very near? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjp28 1,578 Report post Posted July 26, 2017 Oh goddamn you guys aren't this stupid are ya? Irving is pissy be cause of the D Rose talk then the signing. Come on man D Rose wont last and was to be a role player, Is the end of the Cavs and maybe Cleveland's short but exciting championship run very near? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Gipper 3,799 Report post Posted July 26, 2017 Minnesota would have to give up Karl Anthony Towns which they won't. They just got Jeff Teague and Butler and they have big contracts. Teague for Irving isn't enough, and they won't flip him right after aquiring him. I doubt the cavs would accept wiggins for kyrie outright. And with wiggins for kyrie would we even improve? I just don't see it happening. I see Kyrie going potentially to the knicks. I doubt we trade them to our second biggest threat (the spurs). Wiggins plus perhaps another player....obviously not Towns or Butler. And/or draft picks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LBC mike 271 Report post Posted July 27, 2017 Hey Carmel from the knicks and a draft pick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
medicineman 181 Report post Posted July 28, 2017 After next year LBJ is leaving the Land, Kyrie knows is it and I am willing to bet they had it all worked out so they both end up in LA next season. I believe LBJ and Kyrie are close friends and this is all for show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjp28 1,578 Report post Posted July 28, 2017 After next year LBJ is leaving the Land, Kyrie knows is it and I am willing to bet they had it all worked out so they both end up in LA next season. I believe LBJ and Kyrie are close friends and this is all for show. I kind of believe Bruce Drennen on this one, LBJ plays and stays in Cleveland and his kids go to SVSM in Akron. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Gipper 3,799 Report post Posted July 28, 2017 I kind of believe Bruce Drennen on this one, LBJ plays and stays in Cleveland and his kids go to SVSM in Akron. His kids will go to St.V St. M regardless of where he plays or lives....even if it means his wife has to stay here in Akron while he is off to whereever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjp28 1,578 Report post Posted July 28, 2017 His kids will go to St.V St. M regardless of where he plays or lives....even if it means his wife has to stay here in Akron while he is off to whereever. But so much easier and better to watch them grow up here.............not 2,500 miles away. He stays. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BaconHound 243 Report post Posted July 29, 2017 Oh goddamn you guys aren't this stupid are ya? Irving is pissy be cause of the D Rose talk then the signing. Come on man D Rose wont last and was to be a role player, No he isn't D-Rose is a 15 minute off the bench player. Absolutely no threat to Irving Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BaconHound 243 Report post Posted July 29, 2017 i think it is all on Kyrie who is showing himself to be selfish and stupid. Any team with Kyrie as the "Alpha Dog"...as good as he is, would still be lucky to make .500....or even make the playoffs. (We had him here for 3 years without LeBron..and where were we?). Any team with LeBron is a championship contender. No one can win by themselves....but LeBron comes as close as anyone who has played to doing that. Kyrie can't. The old "he would rather be the big fish in the little pond" scenario for Kyrie I guess. Lebron on the Nets doesn't make them a Champion contender and Kyrie would be the "Alpha Dog" on Detroit and they would be an immediate playoff contender. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BaconHound 243 Report post Posted July 29, 2017 What would you want in a trade for him? He says he would go to Minnesota....then how about getting Wiggins back for him? Plus maybe a draft pick. I am of the opinion that is they do trade him they should trade him to a team in the Western Conf. Why give him to teams that are in closer competition. Ergo, the Minnesota thing, to me, could be the best move. The T-wolves will not give you Carl Anthony Townes...but Wiggins could fit the bill. A good wing player, a good scorer, a good defender...and young. Don't think the Wolves would offer Wiggins and keep Teague on the roster. I'd bet they'd be offering Teague and a pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stillmotion 440 Report post Posted July 30, 2017 I doubt minnesota would get rid of teague right after getting him. i think they have a solid squad. I believe Kyrie is mad lebron might stay. If lebron stays, kyrie can't be the face of the team. Kyrie wants to be a westbrook type player. Little does he know, it takes a whole squad to achieve greatness. James Harden and Russell didn't get into the finals for a reason last year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
