nickers Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 Kizer just does NOT excite me in anyway.. bah humbug... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 Kizer should start the most games this year, if not all of them -- Can't really say all of them for a Browns QB, but yeah, if he's healthy he should. I think he will start Wk1 because he has more talent than Kessler, and Osweiler isn't in their plans. I agree with this. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopDawg31 Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 From what I saw at training camp, the QB race is a two horse race and Kessler is still stuck in his stall. Brock is ahead of all three, Kizer not too far behind. I could see Kizer passing Brock by the end of preseason. Kessler is still holding the ball too damn long. Brock throws are tight and on a rope with on time delivery. Kizer sails a few but get the majority where they need to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted August 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 Thanks for the info TopDawg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 I think Osweiler is trade bait, Kessler is too small and won't stay healthy. I predict Kizer is the starter long before the bye week. But it's too soon for a serious discussion considering Hue Jackson hasn't got a clue either. I need to see preseason games I still remember when Isiah Crowell came out of nowhere in the fourth preseason game his rookie year and he was undrafted. Anything can happen! GO BROWNS 8-8 but didn't crow get into some kind of trouble in collage ? as to why he was not drafted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike H Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 From what I saw at training camp, the QB race is a two horse race and Kessler is still stuck in his stall. Brock is ahead of all three, Kizer not too far behind. I could see Kizer passing Brock by the end of preseason. Kessler is still holding the ball too damn long. Brock throws are tight and on a rope with on time delivery. Kizer sails a few but get the majority where they need to be.Thanks for the report from the trenches. How many practices did you observe? Haven't heard many say Osweiler in the lead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 but didn't crow get into some kind of trouble in collage ? as to why he was not drafted Yup... Started at UGA... failed drug test... then arrested on felony "weapons charges". UGA kicked him. Charges were dropped later. Finished at Alabama State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 Kizer should start the most games this year, if not all of them -- Can't really say all of them for a Browns QB, but yeah, if he's healthy he should. I think he will start Wk1 because he has more talent than Kessler, and Osweiler isn't in their plans. I go back to what I learned in law school about a portion of the Rule against Perpetuities: I take a Wait and See Approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibleedbrown Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 Yup... Started at UGA... failed drug test... then arrested on felony "weapons charges". UGA kicked him. Charges were dropped later. Finished at Alabama State. Even still he was regarded as a good pick up for a udfa that year, making a "top 5 udfa this year" type of list. If memory serves he didn't see a lot of action in preseason games 1-3 his first year, but then l guess the team got a good enough look at the other RBs by the time the 4th game came around and gave him a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 Yup... Started at UGA... failed drug test... then arrested on felony "weapons charges". UGA kicked him. Charges were dropped later. Finished at Alabama State. thank you hopefully he will be the bell cow I keep hearing about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 The Brown and Orange scrimmage will be very telling, and will give us information on what I call “step one” of the QB process. I personally think that the QB who performs the best at the scrimmage will be the guy who begins the PRESEASON as the starter. Obviously step two will be the preseason, and the top performer after the first two games will probably be the guy we roll with for the pivotal third preseason game, and then onto the epic beat down, otherwise known as “the season opener”. There are several reports floating around that say Kizer is “narrowing the gap” on the competition, and if that trend continues, we very well may have a rookie starting against the Steelers. The idea of putting a rookie in for the season opener is something that makes me want to vomit, but hey….gotta start somewhere, right? I fully expect Kizer to struggle somewhat in the scrimmage, mainly because I feel our defense is way ahead of the offense, which is normal. Our receivers also aren’t very good, and I don’t expect David Njoku to play because of a recent back strain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Really comes down whether Kizer is cleanly over the huddle-command and under-center hurdles. If he is, then he is in the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike H Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 On 8/3/2017 at 7:14 AM, The Gipper said: I go back to what I learned in law school about a portion of the Rule against Perpetuities: I take a Wait and See Approach. I'm in law school. Your wait is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 7 hours ago, Mike H said: I'm in law school. Your wait is over. Does it feel like a perpetuity yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 8 hours ago, Mike H said: I'm in law school. Your wait is over. Not so fast my friend. The testator is not dead yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 1 hour ago, TexasAg1969 said: Does it feel like a perpetuity yet? Rule of Perpetuity: The Browns....in perpetuity...will be looking for a franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibleedbrown Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 33 minutes ago, The Gipper said: Rule of Perpetuity: The Browns....in perpetuity...will be looking for a franchise QB. That makes my perpetuity gland hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike H Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 On 8/24/2017 at 8:29 AM, The Gipper said: Not so fast my friend. The testator is not dead yet. Ok how about now? Here's my favorite quote from today's conference call: And yes, I quoted myself, because most beat writers do not agree with this perspective and didn't report it was said. I was on the call and have the transcript. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 Speaking of QBs... Given Stafford's mega-deal, I think owners are going to have to revisit the idea of pulling QBs out from under the team cap... something they raised a few years ago at a league meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted September 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 Well, on July 22nd I predicted that Brock would be our starter on opening day. It looked good for a while......but I guess there's not much of a chance of that now that he's been cut. I also said that Kizer had come to a good situation for him to become the starter since the bar here was not set too high. I hope Kizer becomes our 'answer' for our age old question, "Who will be the next GOOD QB in Cleveland since Bernie Kosar?" It's possible that The Harvard Think Tank will go after a veteran QB once the final cuts are over.....but I think the greater possibility is that we stand pat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 8 minutes ago, Orion said: Well, on July 22nd I predicted that Brock would be our starter on opening day. I can dredge up another "Nailed It!" meme for you if you like... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted September 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 Ya gotta admit, it was looking good for a while there. Then, on national TV, he looked like crap and Kizer didn't. I don't mind being wrong. What I don't like is when I'm right and the team does the wrong thing ANYway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 5 hours ago, Orion said: I don't mind being wrong. Me neither... but more of a case that I've gotten used to it... 5 hours ago, Orion said: What I don't like is when I'm right and the team does the wrong thing ANYway. BASTAGES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hempman Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 Kizer looked like crap and has always looked like crap. His pre-snap ability is so bad. He has no clue what he is doing out there. If the Browns wanted to at least to attempt to win, they would have kept Brock and tried, but we know they do not want to do that. I doubt Kizer last the season. I suspect Hogan will be given a chance in the season despite not being what Hue wants at the position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 1 minute ago, Hempman said: Kizer looked like crap and has always looked like crap. His pre-snap ability is so bad. He has no clue what he is doing out there. If the Browns wanted to at least to attempt to win, they would have kept Brock and tried, but we know they do not want to do that. Found Brock Osweiler ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Mellon Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 On 7/22/2017 at 10:18 AM, Orion said: I think the starting position is going to be a battle between Kessler and the Ostrich. I would have to assume that Kizer is going to be a typical rookie QB and struggle with the NFL game initially. But I've said it before, he's come to a good situation. The bar is not set all that high. Yes, well the typical rookie will be just that. It's too bad that he is the best of all of them . . . . well that is not too terrible but starting a rookie is always challenging . . . . Who is his first opponent? ummmmmm let me check . . . . Oh it's those guys, well PIT's first team D has given up alotta yards in the preseason and have not looked all that great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopDawg31 Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 On 9/2/2017 at 9:54 AM, Dick Mellon said: Yes, well the typical rookie will be just that. It's too bad that he is the best of all of them . . . . well that is not too terrible but starting a rookie is always challenging . . . . Who is his first opponent? ummmmmm let me check . . . . Oh it's those guys, well PIT's first team D has given up alotta yards in the preseason and have not looked all that great. Not too mention, rookie QB's had a field day against that D last season, I expect that trend to continue on opening day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 New Topic Here.....We now Have 4 QB's..OK, BB QB coaches..Who Ya got going WHERE? Does Kessler/Hogan go Home to any LA Teams/Oakland/49'ers/Jags/Jets/Ravens? What's your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 24 minutes ago, gumby73 said: New Topic Here.....We now Have 4 QB's..OK, BB QB coaches..Who Ya got going WHERE? Does Kessler/Hogan go Home to any LA Teams/Oakland/49'ers/Jags/Jets/Ravens? What's your thoughts? I dont see that we have anyone who is trade bait....but Im sure they are investigating that as we speak......in the end, we'll have to waive one and hope we can slide him to the PS.... If it was me......Kessler would be the guy going......but since it's Hue and Shashi, Ill say it's Hogan who gets the ax.....and I think he'll get picked up before we can say practice squad..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 As hot as your "Jimmy The Mud" predictions were yesterday I hope ya cool off..Hogan all camp showed better than Cody against are own knowing squad. In Pre-season games though imo it was a toss-up between them both..Again just like Oz, 31 teams won't trade unless their deep in the Waiver Wire so the others will play are own waiting game..Andy Reid did not like losing Hogan last season & now KC GM is gone..Kessler seems stuck in his own Mud, while Hogan seems to be progressing forward..If a Trade? it maybe Hogan at this point.(Which this FO )If a Cut? Me,I'd cut Kessler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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