alporcini Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Invisible man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 He played well in his first game, then kinda disappeared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richiswhere Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Yeah 0 and fucking 12 is just where I want to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 34 tackles in 4 games...leads our team for that span....so, if being our best player means invisible...then so be it edit:....and, Ill add that Kruger had 27 tackles in 16 games last season....one just has to do the math.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Don't see that at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkid3 Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 No. He cant tackle everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 I don't "see it" either... remember his Browns tape will have role in setting his price no matter where he ends up. 34 tackles in 4 games...leads our team for that span....so, if being our best player means invisible...then so be it edit:....and, Ill add that Kruger had 27 tackles in 16 games last season....one just has to do the math.... Is there am expiration date on Kruger references? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 34 tackles in 4 games...leads our team for that span....so, if being our best player means invisible...then so be it edit:....and, Ill add that Kruger had 27 tackles in 16 games last season....one just has to do the math.... He played with a lot of intensity in the Stoolers game, then against the Giants he seemed to give a half assed effort on several plays. This was a topic of discussion on radio a couple of weeks back, so there seems to some merit to this. I missed the first quarter of today's game, so I'm not sure what kind of effort he's put in so far. We'll find out more at season's end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Is there am expiration date on Kruger references? End of season...though Im only trying to show how significant of an upgrade Collins is....not really slam Kruger He played with a lot of intensity in the Stoolers game, then against the Giants he seemed to give a half assed effort on several plays. This was a topic of discussion on radio a couple of weeks back, so there seems to some merit to this. I missed the first quarter of today's game, so I'm not sure what kind of effort he's put in so far. We'll find out more at season's end. 9 tackles so far today....still the 3rd.....just not seeing any negatives in his play(on this D especially).... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 34 tackles in 4 games...leads our team for that span....so, if being our best player means invisible...then so be it edit:....and, Ill add that Kruger had 27 tackles in 16 games last season....one just has to do the math.... Well if Kruger wasn't being misused he would have done better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richiswhere Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Well if Kruger wasn't being misused he would have done better Glad to see he's reach his full potential with the Saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 invisible today...especially.....led both teams in tackles..... 13 tackles...2 assists and a sack... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alporcini Posted December 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 He played with a lot of intensity in the Stoolers game, then against the Giants he seemed to give a half assed effort on several plays. This was a topic of discussion on radio a couple of weeks back, so there seems to some merit to this. I missed the first quarter of today's game, so I'm not sure what kind of effort he's put in so far. We'll find out more at season's end. Question was/is... think he's coming back? Think he wants to come back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Question was/is... think he's coming back? Think he wants to come back? Promise to fill this draft with D and he'll be back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 didn't we do that a couple years back? nothing really to show for it. man, who hires our scouts and drafting personnel? i know it was a past regime but it's as if there's a monster in the closet or a team of gremlins that come in the night before the draft and just throw down new notes and the assholes in the FO no matter who it is, just walk into the draft brain dead like a zombie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgs89 Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Why would he want to be here? He went from one of the best teams to a potential 0-16 team. Now, whether he plays hard ( His job) or not is a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babernakle Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 He has been great despite being on this team. I am sure he is staying or they wouldn't had got him in the first place not like they were making a playoff push Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 He's played pretty well for us. He had a rough first game, giving up on covering the RB for an easy TD pitch and catch....but he was only on the team a few days and wasn't in our defensive flow. ...and, OF COURSE he wants the hell out-a-here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Well if Kruger wasn't being misused he would have done better If not pink, then could at least italicize... Promise to fill this draft with D and he'll be back. Waste of a promise since he can see our draft before committing to any team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 invisible today...especially.....led both teams in tackles..... 13 tackles...2 assists and a sack... lol no shit, WTF were some of thes guys watching?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Ofc he doesnt "want" to be here. Nobody does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Waste of a promise since he can see our draft before committing to any team. I thought the FA signings start in March and the draft in April. Does he not come under FA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 I thought the FA signings start in March and the draft in April. Does he not come under FA? 1st comes tag(luv). 2nd comes FA(marrage). 3rd draft(kids) cycle never ends.. Just bring lots of money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 2017 January 1: Week 17. January 2: Earliest permissible date for clubs to renegotiate or extend the rookie contract of a drafted rookie who was selected in any round of the 2014 NFL Draft. Any permissible renegotiated or extended player contract will not be considered a rookie contract, and will not be subject to the rules that limit rookie contracts. January 2: Option exercise period begins for Fifth-Year Option for First- Round Selections from the 2014 NFL Draft. To exercise the option, the club must give written notice to the player on or after January 2, 2017, but prior to May 3, 2017. January 7-8: Wild Card Playoffs. January 8: Assistant coaches under contract to playoff clubs that have byes in the Wild Card weekend may be interviewed for head coaching positions through the conclusion of the Wild Card games. January 14-15: Divisional Playoffs. January 15: Assistant coaches under contract to playoff clubs that won their Wild Card games may be interviewed for head coaching positions through the conclusion of Divisional Playoff games. January 16: Deadline for college players that are underclassmen to apply for special eligibility. A list of players who are accepted into the NFL Draft will be transmitted to clubs on January 20. January 21: East-West Shrine Game, Tropicana Field, St. Petersburg, Florida. January 22: AFC and NFC Championship Games. January 28: Senior Bowl, Ladd-Peebles Stadium, Mobile, Alabama. January 29: NFL Pro Bowl, Camping World Stadium, Orlando, Florida. January 29: An assistant coach, whose team is participating in the Super Bowl, who has previously interviewed for another club's head coaching job may have a second interview with such club no later than the Sunday preceding the Super Bowl. February 5: Super Bowl LI, NRG Stadium, Houston, Texas. February 15: First day for clubs to designate Franchise or Transition Players. February 28-March 6: Combine Timing and Testing, Lucas Oil Stadium, Indianapolis, Indiana. March 1: Prior to 4:00 p.m., New York time, deadline for clubs to designate Franchise or Transition Players. March 7-9: "Legal Tampering Period" During the period beginning at 12 noon, New York time, on March 7th and ending at 3:59:59 p.m., New York time, on March 9th, clubs are permitted to contact, and enter into contract negotiations with the certified agents of players who will become Unrestricted Free Agents upon the expiration of their 2016 player contracts at 4:00 p.m., New York time, on March 9. However, a contract cannot be executed with a new club until 4:00 p.m., New York time, on March 9. During the above two-day negotiating period, no direct contact is permitted between a prospective unrestricted free agent and any employee or representative of a club, other than the player's current club. March 9: The 2017 League Year and Free Agency period begin at 4:00 p.m., New York time. The first day of the 2017 League Year will end at 11:59:59 p.m., New York time, on March 9. Clubs will receive a personnel notice that will include all transactions submitted to the League office during the period between 4:00 p.m., New York time, and 11:59:59 p.m., New York time, on March 9. March 9: Trading period for 2017 begins at 4:00 p.m., New York time, after expiration of all 2016 contracts. March 26-29: Annual League Meeting, Phoenix, Arizona. April 3: Clubs that hired a new head coach after the end of the 2016 regular season may begin offseason workout programs. April 17: Clubs with returning head coaches may begin offseason workout programs. April 21: Deadline for Restricted Free Agents to sign Offer Sheets. April 26: Deadline for prior club to exercise Right of First Refusal to Restricted Free Agents. April 27-29: NFL Draft (site TBD). I don't see anything about the end of the UFA period. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000677028/article/important-nfl-dates-for-201617 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 January 2: Option exercise period begins for Fifth-Year Option for First- Round Selections from the 2014 NFL Draft. To exercise the option, the club must give written notice to the player on or after January 2, 2017, but prior to May 3, 2017. So, you think we'll pick up the option on Gilbert or Manziel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Tour-that goes back to my point that if they want to make sure Collins stays, then they had better get him signed as FA period starts or make sure he understands they will bring him superior D players in the draft while negotiating from the start of FA period on. It does appear there is some overrun time with the draft, but he can also sign with anyone he wants before the draft begins if I understand FA signing rules correctly. I would hope we sign him before FA opens up. We certainly have the cap space. Aren't we allowed to do that if he is agreeable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 If he hasn't signed with the browns by the 9th March, he can sign with anyone else. That's it. No 'wait and see what we do in the draft' period, that'd just be Collins saying "well I think this browns team is really on to something and it's superbowl in two years so I'm staying" - not very realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Nope. I didn't think he wanted to be here from the get-go. I have no proof of this...but wait...yes I do. We don't ever win and we suck. So yes....I do have proof. We need to re-sign Pryor so we can franchise Collins. He's a freaking beast and we desperately need him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 He's terrific. Franchise his ass, and if the team is any good next year, maybe he'll want to stick around and be part of it. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 If given the chance, he will sign with the best team and money combo and be outa here at Mach 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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