Tour2ma Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 2 hours ago, jiggins7919 said: The most glaring wide receiver deficiency (other than the Britt drop, Jesus) came on that long pass to Kasen Williams. Yes, we all know the pass was far from perfect, but the catch could've been made at the 6 yard line. I can't think of too many times I've seen an NFL receiver go out of bounds like that when he didn't have to, You may have caught my "apple-a-gee" in another thread, but I was wrong... the pass was catchable. Tough catch as you said, but catchable. Problem I saw is that Williams locked in looking back over over his inside (left) shoulder. He had to either swap to look back over his outside (right) shoulder or do a OBJ-style complete turn to the inside. One thing I haven't heard mentioned was whether the wind drifted the ball OB. It would make any adjustment harder as did the relatively flat trajectory of such a deep ball. Not a pass you can lob due to the Safety closing, but Kizer tends to over-flatten his throws. 2 hours ago, jiggins7919 said: Can anyone think of ONE play where Corey has done anything like that? No... but I can't think of any situation he's been put in like that. Might have been a bubble screen last year? 2 hours ago, jiggins7919 said: Every...single...time we try a crossing route, it's either incomplete or the pass is so inaccurate, our guy catches it and falls down. Now, we DID have Corey open... I have seen crosses where Kizer's throws are so low the WR has to go to the ground to collect them. Some of these seem to be due to inaccuracy brought on by acquiring the target late. Other times it seems a simple matter of not being as confident on throws in the middle of the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoolie Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 Coleman is a #4 reciever in Pittsburgh, That is is our #1 foretells a shit season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Ghoolie said: Coleman is a #4 reciever in Pittsburgh, That is is our #1 foretells a shit season. Pittsburgh has a #1 receiver. Thats about it. And for one game, it was good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 9 hours ago, jiggins7919 said: The most glaring wide receiver deficiency (other than the Britt drop, Jesus) came on that long pass to Kasen Williams. Yes, we all know the pass was far from perfect, but the catch could've been made at the 6 yard line. Kizer threw the ball OB. It looked to me that he threw it where his brain said it had to be thrown (away from the defender). - A learning experience? What we're NOT seeing are the plays where Corey gets free and picks up chunk yardage. Remember his college film? College is different. Yeah, in college he was running free. (Toto, we're not in Kansas anymore) This is year two for Coleman. In theory, we should see a jump in his play this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 Coleman will make a HUGE jump once Gordon arrives! There is nothing more boosting than a true #1 to take the attention away from our #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 On 9/11/2017 at 10:30 AM, Ibleedbrown said: This. It always confuses me. I'm slow and admit it and it takes me too much time to process and put together that what l'm reading isn't current or pertinent. Just start a new thread please. On the Browns Board page with all of the threads listed, there's a STAR next to the thread. Click on the star and it'll take you to the next unread post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted September 17, 2017 Report Share Posted September 17, 2017 Other than reading defenses, running routes and consistently catching the ball he's awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted September 17, 2017 Report Share Posted September 17, 2017 The hit he took late will keep him out eleventeen months I'm guessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted September 17, 2017 Report Share Posted September 17, 2017 On 9/13/2017 at 6:11 PM, PoeticG said: Coleman will make a HUGE jump once Gordon arrives! There is nothing more boosting than a true #1 to take the attention away from our #2. We need Trent back also, our running game sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted September 17, 2017 Report Share Posted September 17, 2017 1 hour ago, D Bone said: The hit he took late will keep him out eleventeen months I'm guessing. about right............... http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/09/browns_fear_corey_coleman_brok.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFBF Posted September 17, 2017 Report Share Posted September 17, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBC mike Posted September 17, 2017 Report Share Posted September 17, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillmotion Posted September 17, 2017 Report Share Posted September 17, 2017 Waiting for a mudfly response...... hahahaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted September 17, 2017 Report Share Posted September 17, 2017 If he broke his hand did the Browns lose anything? He was a terrible draft pick and they aren't going to pay him after his rookie deal is up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillmotion Posted September 17, 2017 Report Share Posted September 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, BaconHound said: If he broke his hand did the Browns lose anything? He was a terrible draft pick and they aren't going to pay him after his rookie deal is up. Yeah we lost something. Time. There's plenty of people we could've took instead of trading down for Coleman (Zeke? Bosa?) It was a weak WR draft, and Chiefs got Tyreek Hill in the fifth round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted September 17, 2017 Report Share Posted September 17, 2017 7 minutes ago, BaconHound said: If he broke his hand did the Browns lose anything? He was a terrible draft pick and they aren't going to pay him after his rookie deal is up. Hopefully this opens up a spot for the kid from Seattle that was inactive today. Him and Higgins I guess..................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted September 17, 2017 Report Share Posted September 17, 2017 21 minutes ago, stillmotion said: Yeah we lost something. Time. There's plenty of people we could've took instead of trading down for Coleman (Zeke? Bosa?) It was a weak WR draft, and Chiefs got Tyreek Hill in the fifth round. I agree but Sashi can do no wrong. The problem with the Browns was Farmer & Pettine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillmotion Posted September 17, 2017 Report Share Posted September 17, 2017 1 minute ago, BaconHound said: I agree but Sashi can do no wrong. The problem with the Browns was Farmer & Pettine Sashi is smart, but every human can make mistakes. It's hard to say Coleman isn't a mistake at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted September 17, 2017 Report Share Posted September 17, 2017 For me the issues stem from the 2016 draft. I believed Wentz to be a quality player worth a high selection. Now it's true I also was on board taking Goff that high should he not have gone #1 overall. Tour was right, his anticipation was better than Carsons' at the time. But the Eagles are putting it all on his shoulders right now with mediocre receivers and a questionable running game. Kid is still producing. What got me the most was the gift that fell into our laps with Michael Thomas. He should have been the first receiver off the board - his game is tailored for the NFL. Sashi and co. really botched that pick. Can Corey still be a solid player and contributor? Yes. But what what we need our first round picks to be? Hard time seeing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 33 minutes ago, stillmotion said: Sashi is smart, but every human can make mistakes. It's hard to say Coleman isn't a mistake at this point. Unfortunately a GM that trades value for a pick can't make those mistakes, unless of course the owner is a fool and the fans support your product even though it stinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted September 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 34 minutes ago, stillmotion said: Sashi is smart, but every human can make mistakes. It's hard to say Coleman isn't a mistake at this point. EVERY GM or HC is going to get it wrong, Belichick traded for Kony Ealy and he was cut before week one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillmotion Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Just now, LondonBrown said: EVERY GM or HC is going to get it wrong, Belichick traded for Kony Ealy and he was cut before week one. Are you defending the corey coleman pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted September 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Just now, stillmotion said: Are you defending the corey coleman pick? Not at all, and how you inferred that from my post I'll never know. It's completely pointless going over every pick a team does or doesnt make, there'll always be someone somewhere that has outperfomed them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillmotion Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, LondonBrown said: Not at all, and how you inferred that from my post I'll never know. It's completely pointless going over every pick a team does or doesnt make, there'll always be someone somewhere that has outperfomed them. True, but A ) The Browns have had too many bad drafts in the past B ) We can't afford to f#$% up again by trading down and selecting a WR who can't catch like coleman C ) We need playmakers. NOW! How long is this "plan" and "rebuild" going to take? Especially without a QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 15 minutes ago, LondonBrown said: Not at all, and how you inferred that from my post I'll never know. It's completely pointless going over every pick a team does or doesnt make, there'll always be someone somewhere that has outperfomed them. The point isn't missing on a Myles Garrett. It's trading down letting real talent pass to take a player you love, who turns out to be a bust. They passed on a taking a #2 to get Coleman and Peppers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted September 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, BaconHound said: The point isn't missing on a Myles Garrett. It's trading down letting real talent pass to take a player you love, who turns out to be a bust. They passed on a taking a #2 to get Coleman and Peppers? Well I still think it remains to be seen how they both turn out especially Peppers jeez he's played two games. Taking a player high is no guarantee of talent anyway or the word bust wouldn't exist in NFL circles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillmotion Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, LondonBrown said: Well I still think it remains to be seen how they both turn out especially Peppers jeez he's played two games. Taking a player high is no guarantee of talent anyway or the word bust wouldn't exist in NFL circles. So far Coleman HAS been a bust though, on all levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 14 minutes ago, LondonBrown said: Well I still think it remains to be seen how they both turn out especially Peppers jeez he's played two games. Taking a player high is no guarantee of talent anyway or the word bust wouldn't exist in NFL circles. Coleman might turn out to be s solid WR and Peppers could be a very good safety but they could've taken the chance on the QB - Wentz, the RB Zeke or the LB Bosa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted September 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 33 minutes ago, stillmotion said: True, but A ) The Browns have had too many bad drafts in the past B ) We can't afford to f#$% up again by trading down and selecting a WR who can't catch like coleman C ) We need playmakers. NOW! How long is this "plan" and "rebuild" going to take? Especially without a QB? Trading down cant be the problem though thats my point, its the player you take that makes or breaks that deal. Agree with you on the playmakers, Britt isn't arsed about anything right now and Crowell isnt running nor blocking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted September 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 1 minute ago, BaconHound said: Coleman might turn out to be s solid WR and Peppers could be a very good safety but they could've taken the chance on the QB - Wentz, the RB Zeke or the LB Bosa The Wentz trade has yielded a lot of players that are starting plus still got a 1st round pick to come out of it. I know we arent winning but the roster needed overhauling, that trade had to be done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.