The Gipper Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 That sounds like you were very clearly talking about satellite camps... I was talking about everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 Ohio does have a lot of talent, but it is only one state. Not a region. Alabama is sending some staffers to a camp in Detroit, Fyi. Ohio, Penn. NJ combined has as much talent as any three states of any region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted June 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 I was talking about everything. Well then that is true in some cases, and not in others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 They have more players, therefore more higher rated players. Saban has also complained about up tempo offenses... Clearly he wasn't worried about some FCS school, but that doesn't mean we can ignore everything he complains about. He's clearly worried, he wants to keep these schools out of his region. The complaints about up-tempo offenses were legitimate too. They've ruined the game to a degree. Fortunately a few dominant defenses still exist to stymie their impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 Ohio, Penn. NJ combined has as much talent as any three states of any region. Florida, Texas, California overall. Louisiana, South Carolina, Georgia if you're going per capita. This was a borderline Retarded statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted June 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 The complaints about up-tempo offenses were legitimate too. They've ruined the game to a degree. Fortunately a few dominant defenses still exist to stymie their impact. It is an evolution of the game. People probably complained about the forward pass too. Sabans complaint is rooted in helping his team out on the field. Nothing else. Just like his satellite camp complain is all about keeping a recruiting advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Just because it's an evolution of the game doesn't make it not potentially harmful to the players. It is. The man had a point. And when he went on that rant the widespread belief was that he was saying it as a result of his loss at the hands of Sumlin and Johnny Football. But I'm not as sensitive as some folks. I remember when Malzahn was going to be the latest and greatest dude to give Saban nightmares. Cowherd went on some rant about how Malzahn was taking over. Then the other day he did his Harbaugh was taking over bit. Until someone actually does it, it doesn't matter. Urban Meyer's the only one with a legitimate claim to any haunting of Nick Saban at the moment, and even then it's only slight. Let your play do the talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted June 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Or just complain about the play you don't like and get it banned... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Fkg Yankee's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 Or just complain about the play you don't like and get it banned... It hasn't been banned. He seems to be doing ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Florida, Texas, California overall. Louisiana, South Carolina, Georgia if you're going per capita. This was a borderline Retard statement. Florida, Texas and California are from 3 different regions. You must be Retarded geographically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Ok, Texas, Louisiana, and any of the states around them have more talent both total and per capita than the 3 you listed. Pretty sure of that. However, even if that weren't true, what you said does nothing to help make your point that there is just as much talent up north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Ok, Texas, Louisiana, and any of the states around them have more talent both total and per capita than the 3 you listed. Pretty sure of that. However, even if that weren't true, what you said does nothing to help make your point that there is just as much talent up north. Per capita? I would say no. Not over Ohio and Pa....which have as much or more talent per capita than any state....including any SEC state. Do other northern states match up as well. No, I suppose NH, Vermont and Maine don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 Depends on how you define talent. Louisiana has the most NFL players per capita most years. In the last draft: Texas-32 (population 27.47 million) Louisiana-5 (4.67) Arkansas-4 (2.98) 41 total (35.12 million) Ohio-14 (11.61) Pennsylvania-9 (12.8) New Jersey-7 (8.9) 30 total (33.31 million) I don't feel like doing any more research on this. So I'll be interested to see what route you take to prove your point. Then, if you do miraculously figure out how to argue that those three states have more talent than the three I mentioned, pick another state and add Florida. Then pick another and add Georgia. Then pick another and add South Carolina. Happy spinning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 In fact seven (7) SEC states have more NFL talent per capita than both Ohio and Pennsylvania which, according to you, "have as much or more talent per capita than any state...including any SEC state." Pennsylvania is in fact 26th on the list. All but one SEC state produces more talent per capita than Pennsylvania. Even Michigan produces more than Pennsylvania. Please just don't respond to this thread anymore. www.scout.com/nfl/story/1463448-nfl-roster-breakdown-per-capita?s=127 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 Please just don't respond to this thread anymore. No no,, his posts always have a certain comedic homerism value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 Depends on how you define talent. Louisiana has the most NFL players per capita most years. In the last draft: Texas-32 (population 27.47 million) Louisiana-5 (4.67) Arkansas-4 (2.98) 41 total (35.12 million) Ohio-14 (11.61) Pennsylvania-9 (12.8) New Jersey-7 (8.9) 30 total (33.31 million) I don't feel like doing any more research on this. So I'll be interested to see what route you take to prove your point. Then, if you do miraculously figure out how to argue that those three states have more talent than the three I mentioned, pick another state and add Florida. Then pick another and add Georgia. Then pick another and add South Carolina. Happy spinning! If I look at your numbers only I see that La. had 4.67 players per some per capita. Ohio had 11.61, Pa 12.8. NJ 8.9. The last time I had a math class, 11, 12, 8.9 were bigger than 4.67. Only Texas adds any credibility to your argument. Here are other stats: NFL PLAYER BREAKDOWN BY STATE 1. California 225 2. Florida 186 3. Texas 184 4. Georgia 95 5. Ohio 74 6. New Jersey 63 7. Louisiana 62 8. Pennsylvania 58 9. South Carolina 54 10. Virginia 50 As I said, Ohio/Pa/NJ about as good as any other region Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 Actually I said Louisiana has a population of 4.67 million. The list you posted is not a per capita breakdown and there are 3 SEC states higher than any of the three you're pushing. So to recap: TX-1.16 LA-1.07 NFL draftees last year per million residents AR-1.34 OH-1.21 PA-.7 NJ-.79 I see you're now switching to "about as good as any other region." Your original quote was "Ohio and Pa....which have as much or more talent per capita than any state....including any SEC state." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 Actually I said Louisiana has a population of 4.67 million. The list you posted is not a per capita breakdown and there are 3 SEC states higher than any of the three you're pushing. So to recap: TX-1.16 LA-1.07 NFL draftees last year per million residents AR-1.34 OH-1.21 PA-.7 NJ-.79 I see you're now switching to "about as good as any other region." Your original quote was "Ohio and Pa....which have as much or more talent per capita than any state....including any SEC state." As much or more.....about as good as any. Really the same thing. Plus, we have to figure out your statistic: born there? Went to HS there? Went to college there? But, just taking your stats, I thought PA would be much higher. I guess I should know better than to include Pittsburgh area into anything. I should just stick to Ohio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 There ya go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Hurts big schools in states with a lot of talent, benefits athletes and should be towards the bottom of the list of "what's wrong with college sports". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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