wargograw Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 If not, you should. And watch the video at the bottom. 100% of 5 stars are paid, 80% of legit 4 stars (I would assume not 3 star-kinda guys that just get the bump late in their senior years). www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/4/10/5594348/college-football-bag-man-interview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 I remember reading that a while ago. Rather excellent piece about the degradation of the collegiate athlete to what amounts as an item to be bought. Look no further than Cam Newton at Auburn. At least his father cut out the middle man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 Yes, I saw this like 18 months ago when it came out. Nothing surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 Read that awhile ago. I'd like to see it broken down by school, conference, etc. I'd love an NCAA governing body that actually investigates and clamps down on this stuff, but it won't happen. Alabama makes them too much money to look into why Trent Richardson is rolling around in a 40k+ car... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted December 25, 2015 Report Share Posted December 25, 2015 So you reckon that means Kareem what's his name is going to michigan because his bribe is better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted December 25, 2015 Report Share Posted December 25, 2015 Well has Walker or Michigan been linked to any extra benefits? But, Walker is a terrible human being and complete scum according to you, so who knows. I mean, he changed his mind. What a POS. No one else in his position has ever done that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted December 25, 2015 Report Share Posted December 25, 2015 I never said that. I just said it was a dick move and questioned his dedication. Stop doing cal-isthenics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted December 25, 2015 Report Share Posted December 25, 2015 I never said that. I just said it was a dick move and questioned his dedication. Stop doing cal-isthenics. And we're back to the circular argument with "you must not follow recruiting much". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted December 25, 2015 Report Share Posted December 25, 2015 You're having an emotional knee jerk overreaction you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted December 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2015 I remember reading that a while ago. Rather excellent piece about the degradation of the collegiate athlete to what amounts as an item to be bought. Obviously you have the right to take whatever you want to take from the article, but per the video, that wasn't their intention at all. They just wanted their readers, who are all college football fanatics, to have a basic understanding of how this works because it's such an integral part of the game and yet it's something no one knows the first thing about. Woody, I remember Vince Young had an Escalade here in Austin back in the day. Hilarious. Cleve Bryant was a miracle worker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted December 25, 2015 Report Share Posted December 25, 2015 I would just like a real investigation into it, instead of lumping all of college football together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted December 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2015 No you don't. Your delusions of moral high ground will probably be shattered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted December 25, 2015 Report Share Posted December 25, 2015 Then so be it. Some level of this exists at every school, sure. There are some schools I have yet to see star athletes connected to expensive cars in though, or fishy loans, or wads of cash. I'd love a level playing field. In all aspects of cfb, not just this. That's never going to happen though. Do you really think an investigation will show the Big Ten is as bad as the SEC? Cam Newton, Bama, Ole Miss, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted December 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 Good response from you. Oh no, we're the dirtiest. No doubt. In the video in the OP link they actually get into some theories on why the SEC is worse about this. I'm not sure what's legit. I think there's a lot to the idea that there aren't any pro teams in Mississippi and Alabama. So those four schools cheat (MSU not nearly as badly as the other three). Then it creeps out from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted December 27, 2015 Report Share Posted December 27, 2015 Ole Miss is terrible about it. A few years ago they suddenly have a top 5 recruiting class... really? No one was going to look into that? Come on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted December 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 It was definitely suspicious. I don't know how the NCAA protocols work, but if they have any sort of "probable cause" clause, then I'm not sure an inordinately good class qualifies. Although you'd think it would since inordinately high test scores for recruits are checked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/ole-miss-recruit-laquan-treadwell-tweets-picture-money-175409921--ncaaf.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/ole-miss-recruit-laquan-treadwell-tweets-picture-money-175409921--ncaaf.html The article tries to slough it off as just a kid doing stupid things. Sure...he did a stupid thing.....he showed off some of the under the table cash money that he probably gets paid on a regular basis to play football at Ole Miss. The author calls it stupid. The rest of us call it cheating....for which he should probably be suspended right now for so that he can get ready for his professional career with the Cleveland Browns where he does not have to hide the fact that he get money for playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 If anyone doesn't think this is happening at every P5 program in both football and basketball you are delusional.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 Yes yes yes "it happens everywhere" Sure. Let me know when stories like that start pouring at as frequently from other conferences and other teams... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 Here ya go ya lil dicklick http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/14009597/subpoenas-issued-louisville-basketball-probe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 and? showing me something at Louisville doesn't prove your "everyone does it" theory. Add Louisville to the list of shady schools if you want to. I expect nothing less from an SEC fan to throw the "everyone does it" card. That would be much easier than admitting you're the shadiest conference, with Bama leading the pack. I would still love the NCAA to grow a spine and actually investigate this stuff. That's asking for too much though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted December 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 I wish we could do it like Bama. It's spectacular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 I wish we could do it like Bama. It's spectacular. I am of the unsubstantiated opinion that Bama can give more cash to these kids than anyone else in the SEC....and probably the nation......and that their HGH program is East Germany scale successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 I guess I didn't realize just how deep into your heads the SEC was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 Not really. But acting like they aren't probably the shadiest conference around is hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 Y'know Peckerwood? Speaking of hilarious,every time you post, this comes to mind.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3xGoBlI_fdg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted December 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 I am of the unsubstantiated opinion that Bama can give more cash to these kids than anyone else in the SEC....and probably the nation......and that their HGH program is East Germany scale successful. They definitely CAN. Lots of money for football over there, and no doubt they spend it. But also being the most dominant program of the last decade makes recruiting a little easier. I bet auburn and LSU are paying just as much though. Ole Miss can be bad but they don't bring it every year like other schools do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 They definitely CAN. Lots of money for football over there, and no doubt they spend it. But also being the most dominant program of the last decade makes recruiting a little easier. Well....that and giving more cash helps. I bet auburn and LSU are paying just as much though. Ole Miss can be bad but they don't bring it every year like other schools do. What about TAMU. Do you know from personal experience? The real miraculous part is that no one has snitched on all this. No one wants the gravy train to pull into the station I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 Sometimes guys will say something, but everyone quickly ignores them. Example, Bama abusing medical hardships. Players that were forced to take one have spoken up, but nothing has ever happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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