Mr. Make-Believe Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 I thought it was going to be rough. I didn't know it was going to be THIS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 manziel is certainly struggling but it wouldn't do any good to switch back to hoyer now. bengals are all over the QB today and Hoyer does not have the same ability to avoid them. Agreed. Manziel will get the last 4. I just hope Farmer has the balls to admit he made 2 mistakes, one of them being Manziel, and move forward next season without Johnny Football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggie Brown fan Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Well I feel stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgojackets Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Are you guys fucking serious? This is all Johnny's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TypicalBrowns Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Defense has been sucking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgojackets Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Agreed. Manziel will get the last 4. I just hope Farmer has the balls to admit he made 2 mistakes, one of them being Manziel, and move forward next season without Johnny Football. So you would cut bait with Manziel already? I'm about done with this board. Half of ya'll are too Retarded to have a legitimate discussion with. You are fucking stupid. Yes you Baconhound. You havn't seen a whole game played without flags every other play and recievers dropping balls. Go root for another team you piece of shit. Quit posing as a browns fan you loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Manziel played a terrible first half but so did everyone else. Honestly outside the the int I wouldn't say they had one positive play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TypicalBrowns Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Idk what shannahan took before this game. Rufies, coke, shrooms, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TypicalBrowns Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Receivers dropped every throw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns1216 Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 i was expecting manziel to make a few rookie mistakes but wasn't too worried because of how great the defense has been doing. defense was able to bail hoyer out of a lot of tough spots throughout the season. now i'm very worried. defense has to step up and play like they did against the colts. 3 TDs isn't too far off but someone needs to stop the bengals from scoring any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Are you guys fucking serious? This is all Johnny's fault. Yeah, because Pettine threw JF2 in as a D-Lineman in order to let Jeremy Hill put a Benjamin on us in the first half. Use your fucking brain before your mouth there turd blossom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawgforlife Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Different QB, same offensive play-calling, same result. The problem here was not QB, it was our offensive coach landing jobs on the strength of his last name. He's a bum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgojackets Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 What's up now you fucken Hoyer haters? You're a fucking dummy too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 So you would cut bait with Manziel already? I'm about done with this board. Half of ya'll are too Retarded to have a legitimate discussion with. You are fucking stupid. Yes you Baconhound. You havn't seen a whole game played without flags every other play and recievers dropping balls. Go root for another team you piece of shit. Quit posing as a browns fan you loser. Didn't want him to begin with in the first round, comes with too many expectations, so yeah I really don't want him starting next season for the Browns. I think we have enough talent on D to stay in games and I'd rather see a game manager behind center instead of a 2nd year wild card. I guess we can go through the Geno Smith, EJ Manuel growing pains with Manziel before we realize that Haslam got a Jerry Jones Boner when Manziel was still available at 22. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgojackets Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Yeah, because Pettine threw JF2 in as a D-Lineman in order to let Jeremy Hill put a Benjamin on us in the first half. Use your fucking brain before your mouth there turd blossom. lol who's the turd blossom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterWhite Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Manziel looks like shit. The offensive line looks like shit. Shanahan is coaching like a fucking idiot. We can't stop Jeremy Hill. We can't catch the ball on either side of the ball. The return game is embarrassing. This is hard to watch and the amount of penalties and commercials has taken me out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgojackets Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Didn't want him to begin with in the first round, comes with too many expectations, so yeah I really don't want him starting next season for the Browns. I think we have enough talent on D to stay in games and I'd rather see a game manager behind center instead of a 2nd year wild card. I guess we can go through the Geno Smith, EJ Manuel growing pains with Manziel before we realize that Haslam got a Jerry Jones Boner when Manziel was still available at 22. Because we're gonna win a super bowl with a game manager. Turn off your computer. Do you realize how stupid you are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Because we're gonna win a super bowl with a game manager. Turn off your computer. Do you realize how stupid you are? Doug Flutie didn't win a SuperBowl but he did kick a FG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDog Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Only one game but there are a lot of issues I see with Johnny's game. His arm also got NO ZIP, which is my biggest concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillmotion Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Johnny needs to quit fidgeting and get calmer. He's making too many rookie mistakes.... He's not getting much help, but this is inexcusable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheepdog Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 I understand why the change in offense but I don't agree with it. I've never liked the zone read in the NFL and the pistol offense it alright. I thought JF would have fit perfectly in with what Shanahan was doing with Hoyer. Run heavy and when you throw you throw with the PA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Just announced that Haden is not returning. We're getting fucking estimated by injuries this year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgojackets Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 I understand why the change in offense but I don't agree with it. I've never liked the zone read in the NFL and the pistol offense it alright. I thought JF would have fit perfectly in with what Shanahan was doing with Hoyer. Run heavy and when you throw you throw with the PA. Thank god someone on this board sees it. Zone read really Shanny? So dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 I understand why the change in offense but I don't agree with it. I've never liked the zone read in the NFL and the pistol offense it alright. I thought JF would have fit perfectly in with what Shanahan was doing with Hoyer. Run heavy and when you throw you throw with the PA. Yeah, with the absence of that true pocket passer it seems play action is a great plan. Unfortunately I think until Manziel proves he can throw it teams will employ the Jax D against the Browns and take away the run. If you can't run play action isn't a fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownsFever Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 That 2nd interception broke my heart. A touchdown that drive would have meant a lot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyfoottall Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Its a tall order for the browns to make a comeback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Again manziel stinks today but can anyone explain why we changed the offense 100 perent? This read option shit doesn't work and it's garbage to put anyone in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bringbackbrownie2 Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Again manziel stinks today but can anyone explain why we changed the offense 100 perent? This read option shit doesn't work and it's garbage to put anyone in it. I'll second that. And Seymour blows. But everyone kinda knows that already.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawg2fan Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 I cant blame Johnny for the last play where Dunbar got him, but I don't see him scoring against this Cinci D. Shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownsFever Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 ^Because Kyle Shanahan bet a boat load of money against the Browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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