cdl15 Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 Clowney is by and large the best athlete and it's really not even close. Brilliant analysis, yet again. was wondering what happened to dough boy. Get off my dick lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 was wondering what happened to dough boy. Get off my dick lol Somebody has to be on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdl15 Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 Somebody has to be on it. Yea ur right whether it's a big titty blonde with no gag reflex or some big goofy prison lookin dipshit. It's a damn shame if no one climbs up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 It's a damn shame if no one climbs up there. hey never sell yourself 'short'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 Another nice read from ESPN http://espn.go.com/blog/cleveland-browns/post/_/id/4014/factors-that-led-to-front-office-streamlining?ex_cid=null+-via Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFBF Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 Some thoughts on Farmer and the impact on the Draft : http://espn.go.com/blog/cleveland-browns/post/_/id/4057/what-might-change-under-ray-farmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFBF Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 MKC with Ray Farmer, lot's of good Q & A : http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/02/cleveland_browns_ray_farmer_q.html#incart_river In regards to QB and Draft position: Q: If you had to pick a quarterback tomorrow, do you have your man? A: Yes, I do. I've studied the quarterbacks and I've studied other players, and I've already started to formulate the rank and order of each position. I do know what I'd do if I was held down at the moment. It doesn't mean that can't change, but I currently have somebody in front. Q: Will you draft a quarterback? A: I don't think we have to do anything. The charge is to get it right regardless of which position. (But) I there are players in this draft who can help us at that position and dependent upon where they're at and where we're at, if the two can match up, we can be in good shape. I just don't know if we're going to have the opportunity to take those players. Q: The guy you have in mind, would you take him at No. 4? A: I'd say that No. 4 is not necessarily where I would take the guy that I like. Again, it may not be the name that everybody thinks is the latest, greatest, and the easy one to spot. There's definitely an art to selecting people in the draft and it's finding the right name that fits who you want to be. I don't know about anyone else, but to me this says we're not trading up to take a guy, and it's probably not going to be Manziel. EDIT: Keep finding standout stuff : Q: You seem less enamored with a "championship caliber quarterback'' than your predecessors. Is that accurate? A: People seem to think you can't win unless you have a superstar quarterback. In the NFL, the vast majority of quarterbacks are guys that have to be managed. You have to put them in situations where they can be successful, and when you get them out of their comfort zone, or you put them in situations where they fail, it's not going to be positive for your club. The position isn't as complicated as people think it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 I'm now 100% sure he's talking about Derek Carr when he's talking about the QB position. Carr at #4 overall, eh. Carr at #26 would be ideal, but, he's not sure he'll be available the next time they pick. ...just my observation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 I'm now 100% sure he's talking about Derek Carr when he's talking about the QB position. Carr at #4 overall, eh. Carr at #26 would be ideal, but, he's not sure he'll be available the next time they pick. ...just my observation... You being 100% sure about anything means it's certainly not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunt Daddy Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 I'm now 100% sure he's talking about Derek Carr when he's talking about the QB position. Carr at #4 overall, eh. Carr at #26 would be ideal, but, he's not sure he'll be available the next time they pick. ...just my observation... For some reason the first person that came to mind was Garoppolo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 "A: I'd say that No. 4 is not necessarily where I would take the guy that I like. Again, it may not be the name that everybody thinks is the latest, greatest, and the easy one to spot. There's definitely an art to selecting people in the draft and it's finding the right name that fits who you want to be." Damn, this whole Christmas in February thing just keeps getting better. No Johnny Scramble at 4, and certainly no trading picks to move up to 1 to get him. Just pick the best player available............. There is a Santa Claus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopDawg31 Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 "A: I'd say that No. 4 is not necessarily where I would take the guy that I like. Again, it may not be the name that everybody thinks is the latest, greatest, and the easy one to spot. There's definitely an art to selecting people in the draft and it's finding the right name that fits who you want to be." Damn, this whole Christmas in February thing just keeps getting better. No Johnny Scramble at 4, and certainly no trading picks to move up to 1 to get him. Just pick the best player available............. There is a Santa Claus. Watkins it is or Clowney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Farmer has given us NO indication whether or not pick# 4 will be QB, DE, WR, ILB, etc, trade up, trade down.....whatever!...and I don't believe there's a damn one of us on this board more qualified than Farmer & his Staff. I assume NOTHING until it happens, but it's fun reading & watching all the speculation. For damn sure this process is in far better hands than it was a scant week ago. I can trust the "builders" we now have in place. Again, "we'll see". Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 May well be the case, but I still do not see him standing up in a 3-4. If we're to be a 4-3 D, then bring him on unless... Do you have any concerns about his "motor"? Werner was one of the best 4-3 DE's in football the year before and he's made the switch to the hybrid pretty well. He got alot of playing time during the Colts playoff run subbing in for Mathis. I see zero reason why Clowney can't also be a hybrid. Infact, he's the prototype guy that can play both positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 I don't believe there's a damn one of us on this board more qualified than Farmer & his Staff. Mike But Mike ......................... I have a Magic Eightball, lucky dice, half a Tarot deck and Google. Are you telling me that's not good enough?? LOL just kidding Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 But Mike ......................... I have a Magic Eightball, lucky dice, half a Tarot deck and Google. Are you telling me that's not good enough?? LOL just kidding Mike HAHAHA....I had a Magic Eightball when I was a kid! THAT"S been a few years. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 I'd go watkins or manziel. But that depends who's available. If watkins is taken, any of Bortles/Bridgewater/Manziel might still be available. We have zero NFL caliber receivers behind Gordon, that's a problem in addition to QB and RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 well we all know we aren't dumb enough (anymore) to even look a RB until the 3rd, correct? WR depth in this draft is pretty impressive so we could also grab a guy in the 2nd. i wouldn't be at all surprised if we traded down a couple of spots if someone was ringing the phone off the hook and 'their' guys aren't there. i would address CB with our 2nd pick. but that's all i've been saying for 4 years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Dick Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Grab Watkins, the best player in the draft, and move on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 I always said Joe Banner was the best hire the Browns ever made. Why? Because he knew how to make a football team successful in a city that was a complete and total disaster like Cleveland and Philly. Just for fun, look up the worst (worst crime, worst schools, worst city management, etc.) cities in the US and you will see that it represents the NFL's worst organizations. Nobody in their right mind wants to work in these cities when they have a choice......Joe Banner made the Eagles successful in spite of Philly being one the countries worst cities. I love Philadelphia. It's a classy city, unlike Shitsburgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 I love Philadelphia. It's a classy city, unlike Shitsburgh. Philly is a great place. But we can use the diversity here, I guess, glad to see somebody sucking joe banners dick. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 philly is great if you're a tourist and not wearing anything sports related anti-philly. they are the worse fans in america by far. they do bottle-gate every sunday and have a courtroom, judge and jail inside the football stadium itself. real nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Clowney or Watkins at 4 .....grab QB to sit behind Hoyer later in draft ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 I always said Joe Banner was the best hire the Browns ever made. Why? Because he knew how to make a football team successful in a city that was a complete and total disaster like Cleveland and Philly. Just for fun, look up the worst (worst crime, worst schools, worst city management, etc.) cities in the US and you will see that it represents the NFL's worst organizations. Nobody in their right mind wants to work in these cities when they have a choice......Joe Banner made the Eagles successful in spite of Philly being one the countries worst cities. Can't be the case because Pittsburgh....one of the worst cities going, does not have one of the worst organizations. It is just a place to stop for gas between Chicago/Detroit/Cleveland and Philly. And here is where you get a clue: If Joe Banner had continued to do things the way he did in Philly, then maybe it would have worked out here to.....but he went way beyond his limitations. He tried to take control of the entire football operations. Now, Banner may have been a great Haberdasher, and even a very good NFL money manager. But he was not a football guy, and probably should not have tried to be one, and he should not have tried to usurp the authority of those football men in charge. And his worst sin: He failed to keep his owner happy. The owner apparently saw that a good deal of the reason for the failure of this team since he took over could be laid at the doorstep of Banner and how he wanted to control things. So, if you don't keep your boss happy, then it cannot be said that he was successful...either on or off the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 But you see, you allow your clouded vision of Pittsburgh to make you jump to very poor conclusions. Pittsburgh is a bad city ONLY in the mind of Browns fans because to believe otherwise would be more than a Browns fan can handle. I agree with this: the thing that makes Pittsburgh a bad city is the fact that it has Steeler fans in it. And, by the way....it is the same with you. The ONLY thing that makes Cleveland bad is in your mind because your prejudice toward it because there are Browns fans here that bitch slap you on a frequent basis. I understand from that perspective how things can be distorted for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Browns fans provide some of the best entertainment in the area. My perception of Cleveland is .....well.....it's Cleveland; and that is well documented. Cleveland's shortcomings as a city are well documented in too many places to count. Pittsburgh's shortcoming are imagined in the minds of Browns fans. Big difference. I have been to both and Cleveland and Pittsburgh are two peas in a pod. If you think that one town is really better than the other then you are just doing it to stroke your ego.....or something else. The only thing that Pittsburgh has on Cleveland is that somewhat more recently it has won some silly sports titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Philadelphia considers Pittsburgh a redneck, inbred, Western PA shithole. I know, my daughter lives in Philadelphia. They look down on you like a person looking down on a fresh turd about to be flushed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 First of all you are either a bold faced liar or you prefer nasty cities; the two cities are night and day in every way. Secondly, saying that Pittsburgh has somewhat recently won some silly sports titles is like saying the Titanic sank from from hitting a somewhat chilly patch of water. Great two line retort. Why don't you educate us with your wisdom oh great Shitsburgh guru. What exactly as a city in terms of attractions, dining or culture does Shitsburgh have that Cleveland does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectralcow Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Formerly Sane, I work in both Pittsburgh and Cleveland. I am quite literally in each of those cities multiple times per week (at least twice per city per week). I also have the benefit of having lived in other cities in other states (San Antonio, San Fran, D.C., Baltimore, Honolulu, etc.), so I have some outside form of reference. Believe me, sir, Pittsburgh and Cleveland are not "night and day" in possibly any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 I always said Joe Banner was the best hire the Browns ever made. Why? Because he knew how to make a football team successful in a city that was a complete and total disaster like Cleveland and Philly. Just for fun, look up the worst (worst crime, worst schools, worst city management, etc.) cities in the US and you will see that it represents the NFL's worst organizations. Nobody in their right mind wants to work in these cities when they have a choice......Joe Banner made the Eagles successful in spite of Philly being one the countries worst cities. Successful? You call 4-12 successful? Maybe from a Steeler perspective where you want the Browns to suck forever. What Banner knew how to do was build an organization. Excepting Lombardi- one very bad hire greased his skids out of town. Joe's problem is he let his head get too big too fast- he wanted to run the whole enchillada funneling every decisoin through him, andHaslam (IMHO) rightly decided he wasn't up to the task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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