jeffinwv Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 thank you johnathan vilma he said about a homosexual player and Im paraphrasing Im getting dressed and showering and everything and hes beside me looking at me...what am I supposed to think? How am I supposed to feel? Congratulations Vilma for having courage to say what no one else will What grown straight man wants to shower with someone who is homosexual? I mean I don't hate anyone, I would treat him same as anyone else I interact with on a day to day basis, but I don't wanna be nakkid with them! I don't think its the actual playing with this guy, its the showering and the locker room that would be uncomfortable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuckin Futz Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Gotta agree withe you jeff. I'm not homophobic, but I don't want to be walking around in the locker room and seeing a guy sportin a stiffy, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffinwv Posted February 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Gotta agree withe you jeff. I'm not homophobic, but I don't want to be walking around in the locker room and seeing a guy sportin a stiffy, especially if your the target of said stiffy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin J Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 As long as he aint goin around sniffing butts it shouldn't be a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Gotta agree withe you jeff. I'm not homophobic, but I don't want to be walking around in the locker room and seeing a guy sportin a stiffy, Do you sit with a boner the whole time you are at a strip club or at the beach around chicks in bikinis? If so, you have an issue. I am sure Vilma could get over his sense of victimhood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffinwv Posted February 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 I wouldn't wanna shower with someone whos gay,would you? Vilma didn't say anything about a boner,he just said the guy is looking at me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 I wouldn't wanna shower with someone whos gay,would you? I just don't give a shit because I am not worried about it. Over the course of your life if you have played sports, the numbers are against you not having already showered with someone who is gay but just not out. I doubt the guy is going to wander around with some raging chub wanting to reenact a scene from Oz. Not every gay dude is some sex crazed Retard. Again, how do you guys keep your shit together at a strip club? Do you just sit the whole time so everyone can't see that you are walking around chubbed up and creepy as fuck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Fags don't belong in the sport. If he gets drafted he should be harassed and fucked with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Men don't shower with women mainly because of the attraction and sex issue, but it's ok for a gay man to shower with people he finds attractive? I can see Vilma's point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Fags don't belong in the sport. If he gets drafted he should be harassed and fucked with. Gays are already in the sport. Why does he deserved to be harassed and fucked with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffinwv Posted February 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 But this guys out.everybody knows, a guy who isn't out isn't gonna do or say anything,hes gonna hide it.youll never know hes hiding it but a guy who aint hiding it already has set the precident that hes not hiding it so he may actually say something like "nice dick" lol he aint shy about it Im not for harassment, but I can surely see where it would be uncomfortable for me and nothing would be creepier than seeing an openly gay guy checking me out neekid...vomit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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VaporTrail Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 I'm pretty sure this guy won't be openly gawking at his naked teammates. If that were the case, I think that someone at Mizzou would have said something to the media about it. Michael Sam is going to be under the microscope, and if I was in his shoes, I wouldn't do anything that might jeopardize the locker room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffinwv Posted February 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 thank you johnathan vilma is my post title...lol I knew Zumbo would have something to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffinwv Posted February 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 hes coming on now don't back off johnny...don't wither under the pressure to be PC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 My question to you is this: So let's say Sam does look at you naked in the shower, so what? I mean honestly, if the guy happens to glance and not act out on it at all how is that going to change anything? Actually think about it for a second and don't gut react with "well he's gay and that's gay, America!" Hell, us men do it at a nice low-cut shirt all the damn time. I don't get what's uncomfortable about it when you're already naked with a group of men showering together. That alone is pretty homosexual in nature if you really break it down. This is one of my favorite pieces of stand-up and really applies to this situation: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 I just don't give a shit because I am not worried about it. Over the course of your life if you have played sports, the numbers are against you not having already showered with someone who is gay but just not out. I doubt the guy is going to wander around with some raging chub wanting to reenact a scene from Oz. Not every gay dude is some sex crazed Retard. Again, how do you guys keep your shit together at a strip club? Do you just sit the whole time so everyone can't see that you are walking around chubbed up and creepy as fuck? If you don't get a chub at the strip club you might want to consider Viagra. I am not a gay hater but I have to admit I would not want to shower next to someone who is openly gay. It is absolutely no different than their condoning co ed showering. And that would simply not happen. It should be no different than high school........a shower for straight and a shower for gay. I am sure some will flame me but I truly see that in the same light as having a male and female shower facility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenew23 Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Look at it from his viewpoint... (if you're not too stubborn or closed-minded) How would you feel if you were in a shower full of 250-300 pound lesbians? Right? The guy walks into a shower full of a bunch of overweight people who he knows are not attracted to him in any way. Nobody is as attractive to us, when we know they are not attracted to us. Strippers get you heated by pretending to show interest in you, not just by getting naked. You guys are talking like every person in a locker room is "good looking." I'm not gay, and I actually have no ability to read if a man is attractive or not, but I can't imagine that all NFL players are attractive...? I couldn't imagine being stuck in a shower full of overweight lesbians, even if a couple are good-looking. I guess they were comfortable with me in there, I'd be cool, but I would know not to fu** with any of them b/c there was no reciprical interest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Question: Would this guy also be so concerned if he had to take a shower with females? Would he be concerned about being ogled or touched in the shower by these women? Would not the same things that make a man sexually attractive to a female also be the same that makes him attractive to a homosexual male? As a heterosexual could I take it as a good sign that a gay male would be attracted to me because it would also mean that women would be attracted to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffinwv Posted February 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 but if one of those fat lesbians wanted to screw id prolly do er LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenew23 Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Question: As a heterosexual could I take it as a good sign that a gay male would be attracted to me because it would also mean that women would be attracted to me? I was thinking the same thing... If I was getting glanced at in the shower by a gay guy, it might boost my confidence for the day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenew23 Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 but if one of those fat lesbians wanted to screw id prolly do er LOL And if one of his teammates wanted to screw, he'd probably do him... Enjoy that visual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffinwv Posted February 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 lol..and id run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Every human being as an inalienable right to determine who and who does not see them naked. We should respect Sam's rights as a human being and his desire to play professional football, but we must also respect the right of players who for religious or other concerns do not want a gay man to see them naked. Just as we shouldn't belittle or discriminate against people for being gay, we shouldn't belittle or discriminate against someone who is uncomfortable being naked around gays. We should find a way to accommodate both parties involved. It is the PROFESSIONAL football league and that's the professional thing to do. The answer to this issue is a practical one, not a political one. Equip locker rooms with private shower and adjoining dressing rooms for anyone who wants privacy when showering or getting dressed. Anyone who doesn't care can use the team shower room. It really isn't that complicated, there are plenty of gyms with private and public showers already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Every human being as an inalienable right to determine who and who does not see them naked. We should respect Sam's rights as a human being and his desire to play professional football, but we must also respect the right of players who for religious or other concerns do not want a gay man to see them naked. Just as we shouldn't belittle or discriminate against people for being gay, we shouldn't belittle or discriminate against someone who is uncomfortable being naked around gays. We should find a way to accommodate both parties involved. It is the PROFESSIONAL football league and that's the professional thing to do. The answer to this issue is a practical one, not a political one. Equip locker rooms with private shower and adjoining dressing rooms for anyone who wants privacy when showering or getting dressed. Anyone who doesn't care can use the team shower room. It really isn't that complicated, there are plenty of gyms with private and public showers already. Osiris this was very well put and I think summarizes how many of us feel very eloquently. nice job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Nobody is as attractive to us, when we know they are not attracted to us. Strippers get you heated by pretending to show interest in you, not just by getting naked. Those are two of the silliest statements I have ever read. I could go into a long explanation but damn just read them and get real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 If you don't get a chub at the strip club you might want to consider Viagra. So you are the guy they have to kick out for touching the strippers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 So you are the guy they have to kick out for touching the strippers? Getting a chub for a hot naked female doesn't mean you have a lack of control and turn into a touchy feely idiot you dumbass. Your points are just fucking dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 That also weirdly implies that you like to get all boned up in a room full of other dudes. Creepy, stripper involved or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 That also weirdly implies that you like to get all boned up in a room full of other dudes. Creepy, stripper involved or not. What is creepy is the weird path of logic you take to try to explain your defense of the situation being discussed. It is 100% normal for someone to have a hormonal and physical response to someone they find sexually attractive. This would be especially true in situations that are overtly sexual (strip clubs) or in close proximity to nudity. You can debate this all day with your bizarre nut job comparisons but you do not make sense. I would be far more worried about a guy that didn't sport a half chub at times in a strip club than one that did. All of these statements would also be true for a gay man in a gay strip club OR SHOWER ROOM full of naked men. I have no issues with the guy being openly gay. I simply agree that straight men should have the right to shower in a different area. Perhaps there are reasons you don't get excited in a room full of hot nude strippers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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