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Another year, another Browns' losing season, another offseason's worth of whining about the referees in the Super Bowl.

 

The Steelers won, Warner fumbled, end of story. Time to take Pedro Martinez's advice, tip the hat to the Steelers, and...well, you know the rest.

 

Dennis

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per Bowl.

The Steelers won, Warner fumbled, end of story. Dennis

Yeah, that really sums up all the bullshit during the game, right? You choose one play and summarize it?

 

F off.

 

And you are a Browns fan?

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My Reply: F*** Taintsburgh!

 

Cheating lowlife thug frontrunner asswipes.

 

DWJ

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There were only 91 total rushing yards in this game. Both teams were held under 3 yards per carry.

 

Just thought that was interesting.

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I'm gonna give Dennis the benefit of the doubt here and assume that he's joking. Is there really anyone that doesnt think the last play should have at least been reviewed? You knew that play was coming. It was only a matter of when.

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Most of the calls I saw go for the Steelers were legit. But, they did NOT get an excessive celebration when Santonio used the ball as a prop. That could have been huge. I still believe very firmly that Willie Parker and James Harrison are both on a VERY strict regimen of steroids.

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I'm gonna give Dennis the benefit of the doubt here and assume that he's joking. Is there really anyone that doesnt think the last play should have at least been reviewed? You knew that play was coming. It was only a matter of when.

 

Should it have been reviewed? Certainly. Should it have been overturned? If I were the ref, I don't think I could say that it was indisputable enough to overturn it. The guys responsible for buzzing the ref for the replay thought it was open-and-shut, and I disagree with that, even though I'm inclined to agree with the call on the field.

 

The post was a response (pre-emptive and otherwise) to the inevitable "the Steelers paid off the refs!" claims. Let's think about that one for a second. The ref from the NBA was one guy taking money to make calls. He got caught. Most point-shaving scandals involve a couple of guys on a team taking money to miss shots here and there. They always get caught.

 

And now, we're to believe that the Steelers have successfully gotten away with paying off not one, and not necessarily two, but multiple all-star crews of officials. Guys on the field? On the take. Head referee? On the take. Guys in the booth? On the take. And not in a midseason game between the Mavericks and the Nets, but the most watched sporting event of the year, under the most scrutiny.

 

There are two possible explanations. The first is that Dan Rooney is the most successful criminal in the history of the world.

 

The second is that "the Steelers paid the refs!" gives "the moon landing is a hoax!" a run for its money as the champion of drunken idiocy that shows up on Internet message boards.

 

Dennis

 

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Another year, another Browns' losing season, another offseason's worth of whining about the referees in the Super Bowl.

 

The Steelers won, Warner fumbled, end of story. Time to take Pedro Martinez's advice, tip the hat to the Steelers, and...well, you know the rest.

 

Dennis

 

 

 

Fucck You...go eat Stooler poo!

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Dennis (or anyone) THINK about the results of say the last 7 or 8 Super Bowls. Can you recall a result that was affected by officiating that DIDN'T include the Taintsburgh Cheaters? If so, fill me in and I'll change my tune.

 

Giants last year? Colts before that? Patriots? Rams? Let me know.

 

Doug

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Maybe Rooney doesn't pay the refs, but you can make a very strong argument that his relationship with the NFL has the NFL wanting the Steelers to suceed very badly.

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Should it have been reviewed? Certainly. Should it have been overturned? If I were the ref, I don't think I could say that it was indisputable enough to overturn it. The guys responsible for buzzing the ref for the replay thought it was open-and-shut, and I disagree with that, even though I'm inclined to agree with the call on the field.

 

The post was a response (pre-emptive and otherwise) to the inevitable "the Steelers paid off the refs!" claims. Let's think about that one for a second. The ref from the NBA was one guy taking money to make calls. He got caught. Most point-shaving scandals involve a couple of guys on a team taking money to miss shots here and there. They always get caught.

 

And now, we're to believe that the Steelers have successfully gotten away with paying off not one, and not necessarily two, but multiple all-star crews of officials. Guys on the field? On the take. Head referee? On the take. Guys in the booth? On the take. And not in a midseason game between the Mavericks and the Nets, but the most watched sporting event of the year, under the most scrutiny.

 

There are two possible explanations. The first is that Dan Rooney is the most successful criminal in the history of the world.

 

The second is that "the Steelers paid the refs!" gives "the moon landing is a hoax!" a run for its money as the champion of drunken idiocy that shows up on Internet message boards.

 

Dennis

 

 

 

You make a good point, but then Dan Rooney went against his political affiliation and backed Obama, the eventual winner of the election, Hmmmm, makes ya think doesn't it?

 

He knows things that most people aren't privy to. One of them is running a football team, but the other could be worldwide criminal mastermind.

 

When's the last time we had a good criminal mastermind? He's old and has a grandfather look to him, he's the perfect candidate

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Dennis (or anyone) THINK about the results of say the last 7 or 8 Super Bowls. Can you recall a result that was affected by officiating that DIDN'T include the Taintsburgh Cheaters? If so, fill me in and I'll change my tune.

 

Giants last year? Colts before that? Patriots? Rams? Let me know.

 

Doug

 

You mean, can I think of a Super Bowl in which the refs didn't make a call? Not that I can recall, so each one was affected in some way by calls that were or weren't made.

 

But your point is well taken. However, I would counter by saying that none of the recent Super Bowls came down to plays that could have been interpreted differently. The Patriots kicked a field goal, can't call that any other way. The Titans got stopped a yard short, can't get called any other way. Can you think of a Super Bowl that was decided (IMO correctly, for what it's worth) by two plays as close as Holmes's touchdown and Warner's fumble?

 

Also, the Patriots' Super Bowls 1) have been called into question because Belichick, like everyone else didn't get away with cheating, and 2) got kickstarted by the tuck rule (a nonsense call that overturned a play that shouldn't have happened anyway, because the fumble was caused by an illegal headslap).

 

Dennis

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The Tyree catch was pretty damn close last year. There was no problem there whatsoever with the refs.

 

There were a ton of problems with officiating in the Seahawks/Steelers game, and a number of them tonight as well. It doesn't happen with other teams.

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And the refs were payed off so they didn't review it.

 

Come on, guys. We're better than this.

 

At least some of us are.

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Should it have been reviewed? Certainly. Should it have been overturned? If I were the ref, I don't think I could say that it was indisputable enough to overturn it. The guys responsible for buzzing the ref for the replay thought it was open-and-shut, and I disagree with that, even though I'm inclined to agree with the call on the field.

 

The post was a response (pre-emptive and otherwise) to the inevitable "the Steelers paid off the refs!" claims. Let's think about that one for a second. The ref from the NBA was one guy taking money to make calls. He got caught. Most point-shaving scandals involve a couple of guys on a team taking money to miss shots here and there. They always get caught.

 

And now, we're to believe that the Steelers have successfully gotten away with paying off not one, and not necessarily two, but multiple all-star crews of officials. Guys on the field? On the take. Head referee? On the take. Guys in the booth? On the take. And not in a midseason game between the Mavericks and the Nets, but the most watched sporting event of the year, under the most scrutiny.

 

There are two possible explanations. The first is that Dan Rooney is the most successful criminal in the history of the world.

 

The second is that "the Steelers paid the refs!" gives "the moon landing is a hoax!" a run for its money as the champion of drunken idiocy that shows up on Internet message boards.

 

Dennis

 

 

This shit goes even deeper, two of the rooney sons are big into race tracks and casino's and bettis is right with them.

 

a good old movie to watch is Against All Odds.

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Whether they were payed or not the calls went pittsburghs way all night. There were a couple that were down right mockeries of professional football. Whether that last call should have been reversed or not - the Cardinals were done dirty. At least it was 3 ohio boys who did it though, Rothlessburger HOlmes and Harrison. Only they were playing for the wrong team.

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They're NOT Ohio boys anymore. They've been ex-communicated. LONG may they rot.

 

DWJ

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I don't know. There were a ton of...let's call them questionable calls...against the Seahawks in Superbowl XL.

 

And then tonight...

 

-Harrison didn't get in on the touchdown

-I saw at least one occurance where Ben should have been called for grounding but wasn't.

-A very questionable roughing the passer penalty that even the announcers questioned.

-Missing the excessive celebration by Holmes when he used the ball as a prop, and also his team joined which is illegal.

-Warner didn't fumble, his arm was going forward

-A VERY questionable "running into the holder" penalty on the Cardinals which was completely harmless and incidental.

-Combined with the over 100 yards of penalties on the Cardinals

 

It's not an easy thing to do to just push that under the rug even if you're NOT a Browns fan.

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1. Harrison was in ON Fitz's LEG!

2. He was outside the tackle box both times, they showed it on the screen.

3. The NFL has been protecting the QB all season no?

4. What? lol

5. It was a fumble and how much time was on the clock when it occurred? 5 seconds! what exactly is Warner going to do with 5 seconds heave one over 50 years and hope for the best with the entire defense in prevent?

6. I thought this call was weak so agree but they still only got the field goal.

7. What were the final penalty tallies because Pittsburgh sure as hell had a lot of calls go against them in the second half

 

Sounds like a whole bunch of ridiculous, over-extended crying. How far did you have to reach for most of those?

 

I might be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure if the play was overturned the personal foul against Pitt would have been enforced putting the cards on the 35-40 yard line of the Steelers. I could bitch about couple other calls, but the non review really urkes me.

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I don't know. There were a ton of...let's call them questionable calls...against the Seahawks in Superbowl XL.

 

And then tonight...

 

-Harrison didn't get in on the touchdown

His knee didn't look like it ever hit the ground before the ball crossed the plain, it's debatable, there were no extremly clear angles.

-I saw at least one occurance where Ben should have been called for grounding but wasn't.

Same here, but one could argue that being hit while throwing can throw one's aim off.

-A very questionable roughing the passer penalty that even the announcers questioned.

No argument, I don't know what the hell those refs were high on that play

-Missing the excessive celebration by Holmes when he used the ball as a prop, and also his team joined which is illegal.

while against the rules, it didn't hurt anyone or wasn't a real distraction. It was more of a tribute to LBJ being an OSU guy. I wasn't offended.

-Warner didn't fumble, his arm was going forward

Have to agree there, the Cards got burned out of a play.

-A VERY questionable "running into the holder" penalty on the Cardinals which was completely harmless and incidental.

Sadly kickers are fluffed more than qbs anymore, most of the time a blocker can push a defender into a "helpless" kicker and there's a near automatic first down.

-Combined with the over 100 yards of penalties on the Cardinals

Really man, most of those calls were obvious. What got me is that some of the same obvious calls were missed on Steelers offensive linemen as well. A bit fishy since it was mainly one way but every holding call was justified.

 

It's not an easy thing to do to just push that under the rug even if you're NOT a Browns fan.

 

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I might be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure if the play was overturned the personal foul against Pitt would have been enforced putting the cards on the 35-40 yard line of the Steelers. I could bitch about couple other calls, but the non review really urkes me.

 

 

Yea and still down 4 points.

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Yea and still down 4 points.

 

Obviously the cards needed a touchdown, but that shortens the field alot for a toss to fitz or boldin.

 

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Although I think it should have been reviewed (It was the biggest game of the year and they should make a thousand percent sure they got the call right.), the refs on the field got the call correct. By rule, in order for that play to have been ruled an incomplete pass, the QB's arm had to have been moving forward...and here's the key...with COMPLETE CONTROL of the ball. As much as it pains me to say it, the ball had been knocked loose and, if you watch closely, you can see that Warner pushed the ball forward after it was loose. The Cardinals did get screwed on several calls in this game. But this was one call that the officials got right. There was the no call on the "Lebron James" TD celebration by Holmes. There was the rediculous roughing the passer call on Dansby. And Harrison should clearly have been ejected from the game for his roid rage tantrum! And I'm sure there were other calls. But, it is what it is.

 

As a Browns fan and subsequent Steelers hater, I want to be able to say that Warner did not fumble that ball. But, as a fan of the game, I have to say that the call on the field was correct. Regardless if it should have been reviewed or not.

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Another year, another Browns' losing season, another offseason's worth of whining about the referees in the Super Bowl.

 

The Steelers won, Warner fumbled, end of story. Time to take Pedro Martinez's advice, tip the hat to the Steelers, and...well, you know the rest.

 

Dennis

 

f@ck that shit the refs blew the call and could not allow another play in case the cardinals scored, then they would have to return the money from the rooneys

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Another year, another Browns' losing season, another offseason's worth of whining about the referees in the Super Bowl.

 

The Steelers won, Warner fumbled, end of story. Time to take Pedro Martinez's advice, tip the hat to the Steelers, and...well, you know the rest.

 

Dennis

 

I will say this about warner..he is an absolute master of moving his arm forward after the ball is knocked out of his hands it gives the illusion that his arm was actually in forward progress..very well done...lol ;)

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