calfoxwc Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 Schopen, Really, that link? Seriously? Come on, man. Read Phil's book. He's been who he is for the last 38 years, and before that, he was who he was, which was not a very good guy. Read his book. There isn't anything fake about him. That's the point, in a big way. And "these guys are fake" ??? Read the other two books. See it from when they were kids. That goes for Phil and Si, and the three sons. Your instincts are that much on this subject. We met people in West Munroe, in passing, who admire the Robertsons because they really are, and always have been, exactly the people you see on TV. Cept you never watched the show, never read the books, never been there, never talked to folks that know them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted December 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 Yes, he would. Would gays stop being gay because of the consequences? The left generally is extremely intolerant of any different opinion. MMGW. Check. gay? Check. Christian viewpoints? Check. 2nd Amendment? Check. Against the welfare state? Check. Against abortion? Check. Support the military? Check. And on and on it goes. Any leftwing agenda demands conformity. that's why they hate what they can't control. Perversion and sin, is perversion and sin. Free to be gay - freedom to provoke consequences. Wait, that isn't correct to the left. And, it's said to be wrong, because the left is anti-everything they don't like, and they use priciples like using two sides of a piece of paper. They go with one when it's convenient, then they go the opposite principle, when it's convenient. And it all ends up no principles at all. Just a bunch of flip flopping garbage rationalization. Here's an excellent article defending Phil (who HAS at least seen the show....) http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/12/the-genuine-conflict-being-ignored-in-the-i-duck-dynasty-i-debate/282587/ Good to know Disagreeing with Cal = being extremely intolerant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 Well, Cracker Barrel put their Duck Dynasty/Phil Robertson stuff right back on the shelves, and now A&E has reinstated Phil Robertson to the show immediately. Perhap they thought all of America is gay and black. Freakin idiots, wiser now, since Real America stood up to them, and lambasted them with hundreds and hundreds of thousands of signatures on petitions, insisted they immediately do what they just did. Real America isn't perverse, nor hateful of religion, nor freedom of speech, and they'll stand up for what's right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted December 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 oh god.... that "Real America" bullshit. I haven't heard that in awhile. Cracker Barrel is fantastic though. So I guess I can't argue. Not that I would, because it was all A&Es decision. Please Cal. Define "Real America" for me. Tell me what is and isn't part of "Real America". Then look at your list and figure out why "Real America" lost the last two elections... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 oh god.... that "Real America" bullshit. I haven't heard that in awhile. Cracker Barrel is fantastic though. So I guess I can't argue. Not that I would, because it was all A&Es decision. Please Cal. Define "Real America" for me. Tell me what is and isn't part of "Real America". Then look at your list and figure out why "Real America" lost the last two elections... The nature of elections is cyclical. That's just s stupid uninformed remark. Liberals lost the two before that. Conservatives lost two before that. Liberals lost three before that. Get with the program. Don't worry. Next election the liberals will be out on their asses crying about gay marriage and legal pot from the sidelines. I chuckle a little that you still think your awesome generation is going to change the world, because my awesome generation was going to change the world, remember? My parents awesome generation of hippies was supposed to change the world. You know what they changed? The same thing your generation will. Jack shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 You ask for a definition, woody, then you ascribe a definition to it that is completely off base and invalid so you can bitch about said "definition".. "smarting off" is all you have, woody. That's pretty sad. Hint: Real America isn't perverted, and is comprised of reps, dems, and inds...and religious and not religious. Real America respects our Constitution, our military, and freedom. Real America knows there are opinions differing everywhere, but mostly they respect others' disagreeing as fine. Real America isn't woodpeckers. You aren't real America. Get a clue for once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 Woody let's say there were a bigger number of people who believed in a lot of usavory things that most of us would disagree with. Let's say they want to bring back slavery, do not I women blacks and Hispanics the right to vote, instill Sharia law make homosexuality illegal and punishable by death. Perhaps they think since we are all human beings on earth there should be no borders. Maybe they would like to see a Russian style communism as our form of government. Everybody's free to believe what they want no? Would you be upset if someone called them un American? Or do you think that they are good, real, Americans even though their views are not the mainstream? I know you don't like questions (if you can't answer them without showing the holes in your logic) but just to clarify a few things you belly ache about... WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 And just to be the devil's advocate (read pain in the ass ) allow me to remind you of the greatest American of all George Washington. A British subject who decided to rebel against his country and King. One of the richest men in the land who wanted to keep the tax money for himself and his other wealthy cohorts. A mutineer, a traitor who, using terrorist tactics, killed thousands of his fellow British subjects in order to achieve that goal. Real American? What, then, set him apart from Osama bin Laden? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted December 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 Woody let's say there were a bigger number of people who believed in a lot of usavory things that most of us would disagree with. Let's say they want to bring back slavery, do not I women blacks and Hispanics the right to vote, instill Sharia law make homosexuality illegal and punishable by death. Perhaps they think since we are all human beings on earth there should be no borders. Maybe they would like to see a Russian style communism as our form of government. Everybody's free to believe what they want no? Would you be upset if someone called them un American? Or do you think that they are good, real, Americans even though their views are not the mainstream? I know you don't like questions (if you can't answer them without showing the holes in your logic) but just to clarify a few things you belly ache about... WSS I don't like to answer questions? 90% of the shit on this board isn't a question worth answering. "Now prove how those damn libs and Obamao aren't ruining America!" No need to waste that time. Steve, your description there really had nothing to do with the whole "Real America" bullshit. Yes everyone is free to believe what they want, I have said that multiple times. This is not a distinction between American and unamerican. It is "Real America" I am looking at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted December 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 You ask for a definition, woody, then you ascribe a definition to it that is completely off base and invalid so you can bitch about said "definition".. "smarting off" is all you have, woody. That's pretty sad. Hint: Real America isn't perverted, and is comprised of reps, dems, and inds...and religious and not religious. Real America respects our Constitution, our military, and freedom. Real America knows there are opinions differing everywhere, but mostly they respect others' disagreeing as fine. Real America isn't woodpeckers. You aren't real America. Get a clue for once. Oh bullshit Cal. You "Real America" is some small town, mom and pop, christian, god fearing, 1950s whatever. I'm sure I messed up what you were going to say by insulting it before you actually said it. My bad. That caused you to try to change it no doubt. I would love to know, if that is your definition of "Real America", how I don't fit? Do you think I am trying to "oppress" your opinion and squash it out? You seem to not understand the meaning of hypocrisy, so I am not surprised. I love how you can turn it and say I am the one who won't respect another idea when we constantly here from you how those damn libs just fucked everything up. Idk why I tried to get an actual response from you. That was stupid. Trying to distinguish at all between "Real America" and "not Real America" is dumb. We are all Americans. Differing ideas or whatever. Using the term "Real America" at any point is closed minded, condescending, ignorant, etc. It was born to make you "real patriots" feel better about yourselves. Like you are fighting some kind of culture war to save apple pies and baseball. "Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin apologized yesterday for implying that some parts of the country are more American than others, even as similar comments by two Republican congressmen were causing a backlash that threatened their chances for reelection. In an interview on CNN, Palin said comments she made last week in North Carolina praising small towns as "the real America" and the "pro-America areas of this great nation" were not intended to suggest that other parts of the country are less patriotic or less American." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/21/AR2008102102449.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted December 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 The nature of elections is cyclical. That's just s stupid uninformed remark. Liberals lost the two before that. Conservatives lost two before that. Liberals lost three before that. Get with the program. Don't worry. Next election the liberals will be out on their asses crying about gay marriage and legal pot from the sidelines. I chuckle a little that you still think your awesome generation is going to change the world, because my awesome generation was going to change the world, remember? My parents awesome generation of hippies was supposed to change the world. You know what they changed? The same thing your generation will. Jack shit. Jesus christ you cynical bastard. I don't think I said 1/6th of any of that in my post. Of course elections are cynical. I never said they weren't. You could say in this last cycle most of America didn't want to hear that "Real America" bullshit. We will see how next election goes, but it looks like the Republicans might have to loosen up their stance on some social issues. When did I say my awesome generation is going to change the world? Literally, show me where I typed that. No its cool, I'll wait.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 I don't like to answer questions? 90% of the shit on this board isn't a question worth answering. "Now prove how those damn libs and Obamao aren't ruining America!" No need to waste that time. Steve, your description there really had nothing to do with the whole "Real America" bullshit. Yes everyone is free to believe what they want, I have said that multiple times. This is not a distinction between American and unamerican. It is "Real America" I am looking at. Then I would have to suppose that there is no real America except for an ideal. And I probably don't differ very much from Cals opinion, but that's a guess. I don't think it was ever exactly as we now imagine it was in the 50's but I don't have a problem with that ideal. (with a few exceptions)WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schopenhauer Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 Except that Phil's looked that way for 30 years. Go check out his 1st hunting video: "Duckmen of Louisiana" (except you can't, it's from 1988) Well, I did characterize him as a successful businessman in my first post, so I am not totally ignorant of his success with calls and videos. I didn't express myself well saying they destroyed his existence, meant they "tried" to destroy it...touche. Fact is, you go quoting the Bible and people will quote back. Every actually read the thing? Technically, we are not allowed to go to the bathroom... As for the kids, I bet you can drum up some pics of yourself from your teenage years when you probably looked pretty douchey. I know I've got some in my parent's attic. Actually, no, I can't. I really am rather photogenic. No shit. Also, these boys have families and such in the pics...they are not teenagers...weird thing to say on your part, like someone is picking on kids or something. These are grown men who should own their choices. They adopted the "duck man" look when they started doing the videos with Phil and when they bought the company from him - well before reality TV. You say they adopted the persona, I say they dress like daddy for $. Fair enough. Source: me, someone who's duck hunted with my dad since Bernie was our QB. Do his calls work that well? They must, for all his success. I am familiar with turkey calling but never went after ducks, not enough around I suppose... Here's a less vindictive, butt-hurt article on the Robertson's pre-fame & pre-"controversy" http://www.sportsspectrum.com/articles/2013/03/23/duck-dynasty-how-it-almost-never-happened/ Well, I did add a disclaimer about the pics... and wanted to rile you a little... Plus, you drop the hammer on somebody, you better be ready to get nailed yourself... Cal, you mentioned that Phil would not like another chance to answer the question, yet he did take an opportunity to clarify. Actually appreciated his clarification. His comments about dangerous "microbes" out there are spot on and more discussion needs to happen on those topics, especially in religious circles. Amazing what you can do when someone holds your feet to the fire... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schopenhauer Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 Well, Cracker Barrel put their Duck Dynasty/Phil Robertson stuff right back on the shelves, and now A&E has reinstated Phil Robertson to the show immediately. Perhap they thought all of America is gay and black. Freakin idiots, wiser now, since Real America stood up to them, and lambasted them with hundreds and hundreds of thousands of signatures on petitions, insisted they immediately do what they just did. Real America isn't perverse, nor hateful of religion, nor freedom of speech, and they'll stand up for what's right. Sorry Cal, anyone who knows anything knows Cracker Barrel is prejudiced against blacks at least. No wonder they love Phil. Also, LOVE how the Duck Dynasty producer starred in a movie about Gay Porn. This is all about the money and publicity. A&E & DD got their publicity, now back to filming... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 This doesn't really have anything to do with A&E or the stupid television show but we do know that the naacp regularly stirs of this kind of shit. It's about all they have left to do. WSS Edit sorry about the speech to text glitches... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 Cal, you mentioned that Phil would not like another chance to answer the question, yet he did take an opportunity to clarify. ******************************** NO. Phil would not like another chance to backtrack, as in changing his opinion. Of course he'd like another chance to say the same thing. I've seen the man in person, and he knows what he believes, why he believes it, and nothing is going to change that. And we've eaten at Cracker Barrell plenty of times, with all sorts of black families there. Perhaps you think they had to sit outside or something, but that's just bs on the racial favoritism. Or, perhaps you mean the cool stuff at their entrance stores, that don't have any pictures of Jesse Carpetbagger Jackson, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 Oh yes, Cracker Barrel hates blacks. LMAO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 This doesn't really have anything to do with A&E or the stupid television show but we do know that the naacp regularly stirs of this kind of shit. It's about all they have left to do. WSS Edit sorry about the speech to text glitches... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairHooker11 Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 now I know why Im a "cracker" !! if anyone can shed some light on the honky thing though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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