Vagitron Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 What are you smoking? Colt McCoy is a winner. He reminds me a lot of Roethlisberger on the field (not off)......he's the reason you guys will be winning soon. Peyton Hillis is a beast and Frank Gore is a little better catching the ball, but running...Hillis edges him out. WR's, yeah that is your weak spot TE, I'd take Watson any day over Davis. Â Â Are you for real on this? or being amazingly sarcastic? Â I do like McCoy but Peyton Hillis is not as good as Frank Gore and Vernon Davis is light years better than Ben Watson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzadeliveryguy Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 What are you smoking? Colt McCoy is a winner. He reminds me a lot of Roethlisberger on the field (not off)......he's the reason you guys will be winning soon. Peyton Hillis is a beast and Frank Gore is a little better catching the ball, but running...Hillis edges him out. WR's, yeah that is your weak spot TE, I'd take Watson any day over Davis. Â Come on man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteelers Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 Â Come on man. Â When Watson wants to play there is no one better. Hillis is a tad better then Gore in my opinion. You guys watch and see if the Browns dont turn it around next football season. Hillid, minus injury will become one of the best in the league, top 5. I think you guys are so accustomed to the Browns losing that you dont see what is coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedyd900rr Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 Ugh, this is getting old. All these trolls do is hi jack every thread and turn it into pissburgh talk just so they can say we talk about them to much. Most of them post 10 single sentence responses in a row just to get the number of pages up so they have a reason to run they're mouth about how many pages a stooler topic has on a Browns forum. Â Honestly, I wouldn't be suprised if there just doing it to get there post count up. When a stooler fan spends 5 hours a day and has over 800 post on a Browns forum says that you talk about the stoolers to much after you made one post about them you cant do anything but laugh at them and hope they get the mental help they need one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagitron Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 Ugh, this is getting old. All these trolls do is hi jack every thread and turn it into pissburgh talk just so they can say we talk about them to much. Most of them post 10 single sentence responses in a row just to get the number of pages up so they have a reason to run they're mouth about how many pages a stooler topic has on a Browns forum. Honestly, I wouldn't be suprised if there just doing it to get there post count up. When a stooler fan spends 5 hours a day and has over 800 post on a Browns forum says that you talk about the stoolers to much after you made one post about them you cant do anything but laugh at them and hope they get the mental help they need one day.  Where does your brain reside a vast majority of the time. Check the board and see how many Steeler related threads were/are made by a Browns fan and then check the inverse. I won't answer my own question because you already know the damn answer. You have to be one of the dumbest individuals on this message board. I can also give two sh*ts about my post count lol. I spend a good bit of time on the internet throughout the week. Web browsers have tabs. Do you honestly think there are people that sit on this board and spam "refresh"? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzadeliveryguy Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 When Watson wants to play there is no one better. Hillis is a tad better then Gore in my opinion. You guys watch and see if the Browns dont turn it around next football season. Hillid, minus injury will become one of the best in the league, top 5. I think you guys are so accustomed to the Browns losing that you dont see what is coming. You are entitled to your opinion but you are out of your mind. At best, Watson might sneak into the top 10. Gates, Clark, Davis, Witten, Gonzalez, Finley, Z. Miller are all slam dunks over Watson. After that, I would put him in a pack of about 10 more TEs albeit on the lower side of that list. Â As far as Gore and Hillis goes, Hillis is the product of a good line, nothing more. His fumbling problems and lack of elusiveness make him a good piece of a RBBC while Frank Gore has been a stud for more than one year behind less than stellar lines and is an every down back. Do yourself a favor and don't let your homerism distort the truth. It will serve you well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nw220 Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 Im glad someone sees the same thing as i do, Frank Gore is great but i see Peyton Hillis almost in the same type of role, there both great catching the ball outta the backfeild and i think next year Peyton Hillis will be even better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagitron Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 You are entitled to your opinion but you are out of your mind. At best, Watson might sneak into the top 10. Gates, Clark, Davis, Witten, Gonzalez, Finley, Z. Miller are all slam dunks over Watson. After that, I would put him in a pack of about 10 more TEs albeit on the lower side of that list. As far as Gore and Hillis goes, Hillis is the product of a good line, nothing more. His fumbling problems and lack of elusiveness make him a good piece of a RBBC while Frank Gore has been a stud for more than one year behind less than stellar lines and is an every down back. Do yourself a favor and don't let your homerism distort the truth. It will serve you well.  This but I put Heath Miller in the top 10 and that isn't being a homer. He does it all and he does it well. I do like Peyton Hillis but he's not a dynamic runner. He's a bruiser and as mentioned above he's a product of school bus sized holes at times and a lay it ALL on the line mentality. He's the epitome of a "blue collar rb" and that's where it begins and ends. He can be the Steelers FB any day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzadeliveryguy Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 This but I put Heath Miller in the top 10 and that isn't being a homer. He does it all and he does it well. I do like Peyton Hillis but he's not a dynamic runner. He's a bruiser and as mentioned above he's a product of school bus sized holes at times and a lay it ALL on the line mentality. He's the epitome of a "blue collar rb" and that's where it begins and ends. He can be the Steelers FB any day of the week. H.Miller isn't a sexy pick but is very solid all around. I would put him into that 8-13 range. I would definitely take him over Watson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagitron Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 H.Miller isn't a sexy pick but is very solid all around. I would put him into that 8-13 range. I would definitely take him over Watson. Â I would take a lot of guys over Watson. There is a reason Belicheat let him walk, put him on a prolific offense right now and he's invisible. He's not the same TE he was and even when he was lighting it up I still wouldn't put him in the top 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 Zombo, thank you for admitting that you have no idea where the rings are. Unless Ben sold his he should still have his rings. (yes there are pictures)  I will pray that you get over your bitterness and hope you win a Super Bowl soon, or at least show up. you'll have to win the AFC North first (just a heads up)  Thank you.  Why would I have any idea where anybody's rings are? Is there some sort of stupid premise to the rings here?  Thanks, for the prayers, but I'm not "bitter". If I were, I'd be on a Steeler board hijacking threads with nonsense displaying my insecurity for all to see.  Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 I would take a lot of guys over Watson. There is a reason Belicheat let him walk, put him on a prolific offense right now and he's invisible. He's not the same TE he was and even when he was lighting it up I still wouldn't put him in the top 5. Â Â Heath Miller is overrated...Watson has better hands and is hands down a better TE..And Watson has better speed.....Watson had a damn fine season for us...Heath Miller has help from Ben...Watson had help from basically nobody... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzadeliveryguy Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Heath Miller is overrated...Watson has better hands and is hands down a better TE..And Watson has better speed.....Watson had a damn fine season for us...Heath Miller has help from Ben...Watson had help from basically nobody... Watson had help from dump off specialists and not too many other prime targets to go around. Watson is average, the fact that NE got far better production from two rookie TEs this year than at anytime with Watson should tell you something. The guy is very replaceable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagitron Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Heath Miller is overrated...Watson has better hands and is hands down a better TE..And Watson has better speed.....Watson had a damn fine season for us...Heath Miller has help from Ben...Watson had help from basically nobody... Â You're an idiot. There is absolutely nothing overrated about Heath Miller. Steeler or not he gets it done in all facets and sh.its all over Ben Watson and Ben Watson does not have better hands. And he sure as sh.it doesn't block like Heath Miller. Most TE's don't. He's the most complete TE in the NFL. If anything he's UNDERRATED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erie Dawg Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Check the board and see how many Steeler related threads were/are made by a Browns fan and then check the inverse. And if there isn't one you make sure to turn it into one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagitron Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 And if there isn't one you make sure to turn it into one... Â Please. I almost never bring up the Steelers unless brought up previously and when I do it's in intelligent discussion and not meant to be a "rub in the face moment" Try reading the threads before my involvement and then reevaluate your moronic comment above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Â "I almost never bring up the Steelers ... and when I do it's in intelligent discussion" Â --Homotron, 2/13/2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slurp and Burp Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Zombo wrote that Otto Graham had 7 rings then 8 rings. Are there any pictures of these rings. What kind were they? Â I guess no one had a camera back in the day. Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 You're an idiot. There is absolutely nothing overrated about Heath Miller. Steeler or not he gets it done in all facets and sh.its all over Ben Watson and Ben Watson does not have better hands. And he sure as sh.it doesn't block like Heath Miller. Most TE's don't. He's the most complete TE in the NFL. If anything he's UNDERRATED. Â Â yeah keep crying you little steeler faggot...I never said Miller was bad...I just said overrated when theres better TE's out there...And you're the idiot cuz your still here trying to justify your existence at every turn...get a life steeler fag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel2tuff Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 Zombo wrote that Otto Graham had 7 rings then 8 rings. Are there any pictures of these rings. What kind were they? I guess no one had a camera back in the day.   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erie Dawg Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 Please. I almost never bring up the Steelers unless brought up previously and when I do it's in intelligent discussion and not meant to be a "rub in the face moment" Try reading the threads before my involvement and then reevaluate your moronic comment above. LOL. Im not catholic but I would say you need to go to confession and say a couple dozen hail marys for all that B.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 He's coming back and if he doesn't they have Keith Butler immediately behind him. I'm pretty sure Lebeau has already stated he's not retiring because he's having too much fun with the current group. Â Â OK. I just know there was some speculation on national radio/TV that this Super Bowl may have been his last game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 otto Graham has 7 rings? Where did he get them? Are they plastic rings that come in cracker jack boxes? Can you please post a picture of otto's rings.  Thank you and I will pray that you stop obsessing about the steelers.   Why are you obsessing about the Browns.  Otto Graham got 7 rings from winning Championships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 Zombo wrote that Otto Graham had 7 rings then 8 rings. Are there any pictures of these rings. What kind were they? I guess no one had a camera back in the day.  I guess you are using this whole ring thing to make some kind of point that your quarterback's titles aren't as old as our quarterback's titles.  Ok. Our guy won more, your guy won more recent. Got it.  But you can stop asking for pictures of rings. It makes no sense. I do not own one picture of any man's rings. Maybe this is a fetish of yours.  But if you want to learn about the titles and the man, start with:  http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/  http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play...i?search=graham  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Browns  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Graham  Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 Zombo, thank you for admitting that you have no idea where the rings are. Unless Ben sold his he should still have his rings. (yes there are pictures)  I will pray that you get over your bitterness and hope you win a Super Bowl soon, or at least show up. you'll have to win the AFC North first (just a heads up)  Thank you.   Why should anyone know where an athlete keeps his championship rings? Do you know where the rings are for everyone who played on the 70s Steeler teams? Hell, Super Bowl rings get bought and sold all the time. Here is a link to an article showing that the Pawn Shop in Vegas of Pawn Stars fame has SB Rings from as recently as the Patriots title wins: http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patrio...annel-show.html  So, until and unless you can account for every ring won by a member of the Steelers, STFU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 Zombo wrote that Otto Graham had 7 rings then 8 rings. Are there any pictures of these rings. What kind were they? I guess no one had a camera back in the day.   The pictures are up your ass, why don't you look there. That is usually where your head is anyways. When you are there, here is what you may find:   1950 Browns NFL Championship Ring   1955 Browns NFL Championship Ring.  If you want any more, just dig further up your ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagitron Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 LOL. Im not catholic but I would say you need to go to confession and say a couple dozen hail marys for all that B.S. Â Â Do you want to bet on it? I don't believe I've EVER started a thread here for one and when I mention the Steelers the Steelers have already been brought up. I know you won't take the time to go back through my posts. I'm not here to troll and only get involved in the sh.it storm when the sh.it storm is already in full swing/and or brought to my door step. If I do happen to mention anything Steeler without it being provoked it's in intelligent discussion which at some point brings out the trolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erie Dawg Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 Do you want to bet on it? I don't believe I've EVER started a thread here for one and when I mention the Steelers the Steelers have already been brought up. I know you won't take the time to go back through my posts. I'm not here to troll and only get involved in the sh.it storm when the sh.it storm is already in full swing/and or brought to my door step. If I do happen to mention anything Steeler without it being provoked it's in intelligent discussion which at some point brings out the trolls. Yeah sure whatever, I believe you. maybe just maybe that's why your name is homotron and your signature puts the cherry on it. Btw,who brought any thing to your door step? Does someone put a gun on you forcing you to reply? If not then every thing you just said is typical fag talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagitron Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 Yeah sure whatever, I believe you. maybe just maybe that's why your name is homotron and your signature puts the cherry on it. Btw,who brought any thing to your door step? Does someone put a gun on you forcing you to reply? If not then every thing you just said is typical fag talk. Â My name was changed so I posted the Snatch98 part and the last part was/is a constant reminder anytime someone wants to get cute and trash on Pittsburgh. Good news though, the new Forbes list only has 3 or 4 Ohio cities on the hook. I believe Canton was removed. As far as the latter is concerned no there isn't a gun to my head but I'm argumentative and when I am trying to have a legit conversation the scope is usually changed in minutes when a mouth breather shows up and pops off. I also live in Western PA, starting the Steeler hate threads bring things to "my doorstep" despite this being a Cleveland message board. I did a good portion of the last 10 year in or around Ohio. Lived near Cleveland for 5 and Columbus for 2. Some of my greatest friends are Browns diehards and I love it when you ladies get all butt hurt over my involvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 How could you not? He let his team and city down by missing four games for immature boorish behaviour and then threw two interceptions in the Super Bowl, and then STILL had an opportunity to lead his team down the field for the win and crapped his pants. Yes, "Leader" is the one word everyone associates with Ben.  Zombo  I wonder why he didn't call Shittsburgh's remaining timeout on that final drive? The offense was in disarray, confused and getting beat down. A true leader realizes that that is when you call a timeout. It's your last down in the Superbowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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