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THOSE ARE THE FRONT RUNNERS, AND ALL OF THEM HAVE EITHER STATED THEY DON'T WANT TO COACH, OR IS PROBABLY NOT AVAILABLE. SO TAKE THOSE OUT OF THE RUNNING WHO DO YOU WANT AS GM AND HC?

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THOSE ARE THE FRONT RUNNERS, AND ALL OF THEM HAVE EITHER STATED THEY DON'T WANT TO COACH, OR IS PROBABLY NOT AVAILABLE. SO TAKE THOSE OUT OF THE RUNNING WHO DO YOU WANT AS GM AND HC?

Pioli or Reese for GM...and Rex Ryan for Coach.

 

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Honestly my first choice for GM was to keep Savage, but I already lost on that one. My 2nd choice would be to keep him on as personnel director, but nope.

 

GM, I'm not sure, I'd like someone who is going to stick around for a while, build with good talent through the draft, and give us some more players to be proud of.

 

Part of my uneasyness with Pioli is that New England really seems to not have any loyalty to a lot of their players. I mean, they've had a revolving door at their RB spot through this entire era. Well, Kevin Faulk has been there a while. And I guess plenty of others have been there for a while, too. . . maybe I'm just uneasy about the execs coming out of New England.

 

GM, I'm not sure which direction I would go, as I don't know enough about the candidates and who else is available. I don't particularly like Parcells, but I guess Pioli would be good.

 

Coaching, I'd like to go young and fiery. Ryan, Spagnuolo (sp?), McDaniels, Garrett. . .

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Is Chris Polian a chip off the old block? That would be nice.

 

Pioli seems to be the best that's available. Reese has done well for himself.

 

For HC I'd like:

1. Schwartz

2. Spags

3. Ryan

 

-Al

 

I think Rich and Ghoolie would say that Chris Polian is a coffee fetcher, like Spags and Schwartz and Ryan. Everybody is a coffee fetcher, so nobody should ever be promoted from a coordinator position or player personnel position.

 

GM - Pioli or Casserly

 

HC - McDaniels, Spagnoula or Garrett

 

DC - Mangini

 

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I'm just hoping it isn't Marry Snottemheimer!

 

That man's a good coach an all but I just don't like his style of play. I'm hoping Rex Ryan goes to St. Louis so I'll say he's out of the question (but who really knows)?

 

Here's who I think would be perfect for the job.

 

GM - Scott Pioli

 

HC - Jason Garret

 

OC - ?????

 

DC - Rob Marinelli

 

 

Who could they hire as OC...that's not an OC already?

 

 

 

 

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Here's what I'm thinking right now:

 

GM: Phil Savage Scott Pioli

 

HC: Jim Schwartz

  • Belichick-like defensive genius will take over our squad. Might transition to a 4-3 (see DC).
OC: David Lee

  • Dolphins QB coach; responsible for installing WildDawg formation in their offense

     

    • Other possibilities: Brian Schottenheimer, Mike Sherman, Norm Chow
DC: Gregg Williams

  • Scheme-versatile defensive guru has run a 3-4 in the past, though he prefers an aggressive 4-3 scheme
  • Here's Schwartz describing his former boss:

     

    Gregg is obviously one of the guys responsible for me being where I am right now. Just learning the way he did things and being able to sort of pick and choose how he would handle a situation opposed to Marvin Lewis or Bill Belichick. I think the one thing Gregg has done is adapt from year to year. His defense differs in some aspects from when he was with the Titans, with the Buffalo Bills and now with the Redskins.

     

    • Other possibilities: Dom Capers, Jim Haslett, Romeo Crennel
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I can't get too jazzed about the name-game because I haven't a real clue about any of these guys.

 

So I'll go back to this: the next HC needs to be THE MAN, a real personality, a real presence, someone with real self-confidence based on his skill and his succesful past, someone the team will take notice of and someone who will put the team on notice, a real coach who can coach but also lead. Oh, and he should be on the younger side, someone who will learn and grow and be here a while.

 

Yeah, yeah, that's what everybody is looking for, I get it, I'm just sayin', whoever comes CLOSEST to that is my guy.

 

I don't know much about Schwartz but I'm impressed with the Titans D. Not a huge Ryan fan; doesn't seem to have the personality I'm lookin' for.

 

As for McDaniels, I'd be really concerned about such a young hire UNLESS he exhibits some measure of the traits I just listed. As a guy who played QB, he likely has some of IT and obviously he can coach so he has to be considered seriously, despite his youth.

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Please god no on Jason Garret.

My brother is a die hard Dallas fan and all I've heard all season is him bitch about lousy offensive playcalling you could see coming a mile away on a team with more talent on the offense than most teams have on their roster.

Garrett and Chud are one in the same, flash in the pans. If you want Garrett as HC or OC you may as well take Chud and provide some continuity we've been lacking since we came back.

 

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Some interesting info on Jim Schwartz (from PFW):

  • Before the '04 season, Schwartz contemplated switching the Titans to a 3-4 defense, but GM Floyd Reese nixed the idea.

     

  • Schwartz's contract with the Titans expired after the '04 season, making him a free agent able to sign on as a DC elsewhere. Before deciding to re-sign with the Titans, he was mentioned as a possible replacement for RAC in New England & as a possible Nick Saban hire in Miami. Apparently, 3-4 teams were interested in bringing him on as DC.

     

  • He likes to employ a "Ruby" package that includes three safeties, where one of them either blitzes, stacks the box, or drops into coverage. Sean Jones would seem to be a good fit in this package, especially if it meant more time stopping the run & less time covering TE's & receivers.

     

  • In his scheme, the middle linebacker is a two-down run stopper. Their MLB (Stephen Tulloch) isn't a great athlete (4.81 40) but has good short-area quickness (4.18). Maybe Beau Bell could actually amount to something? At the very least, it seems like he could be a backup at this spot.

     

  • Schwartz is said to be very fond of Robaire Smith, who has a good understanding of Schwartz's scheme. It'd be nice to have Robaire explain the system to Corey Williams & Shaun Rogers, kind of like what Willie Mac (allegedly) did with our young 3-4 linebackers.

     

  • Schwartz isn't without some flaws:

     

    Schwartz may be the most qualified assistant in terms of pure brainpower, but he has a tendency to come across as overly arrogant — a quality that should be very interesting to monitor in the coming days and weeks.

     

    “I wish there was more consistency from Jim Schwartz,” said one veteran league source. “Would you have said he were a hot candidate last year? … He’s very, very smart, but he’s always the smartest guy in the room.

     

    “You have to know what you’re getting and be able to manage him.”

    This is definitely concern...but it also fits the Belichick genius/asshole mold. And if there's someone who knows how to manage that type of personality, it's Scott Pioli.

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Some interesting info on Jim Schwartz (from PFW):

  • Before the '04 season, Schwartz contemplated switching the Titans to a 3-4 defense, but GM Floyd Reese nixed the idea.

     

  • Schwartz's contract with the Titans expired after the '04 season, making him a free agent able to sign on as a DC elsewhere. Before deciding to re-sign with the Titans, he was mentioned as a possible replacement for RAC in New England & as a possible Nick Saban hire in Miami. Apparently, 3-4 teams were interested in bringing him on as DC.

     

  • He likes to employ a "Ruby" package that includes three safeties, where one of them either blitzes, stacks the box, or drops into coverage. Sean Jones would seem to be a good fit in this package, especially if it meant more time stopping the run & less time covering TE's & receivers.

     

  • In his scheme, the middle linebacker is a two-down run stopper. Their MLB (Stephen Tulloch) isn't a great athlete (4.81 40) but has good short-area quickness (4.18). Maybe Beau Bell could actually amount to something? At the very least, it seems like he could be a backup at this spot.

     

  • Schwartz is said to be very fond of Robaire Smith, who has a good understanding of Schwartz's scheme. It'd be nice to have Robaire explain the system to Corey Williams & Shaun Rogers, kind of like what Willie Mac (allegedly) did with our young 3-4 linebackers.

     

  • Schwartz isn't without some flaws:

     

     

    This is definitely concern...but it also fits the Belichick genius/asshole mold. And if there's someone who knows how to manage that type of personality, it's Scott Pioli.

i think i actually have a favorite to become the head coach, regardless of who we have as our GM. evil defensive genius? yes. all day.

 

also, david lee from miami is an interesting idea. the WildDawg was a great fit for miami and worked in the rest of the league, but we'd have to hire him knowing that he's got other tricks up his sleeve.

 

and i think williams may still be under contract with jacksonville as their DC, meaning he's off limits to us.

 

either way, schwartz sounds fantastic. his arrogance, though, might serve him well as a coordinator and be a roadblock as a HC, someone who's more of a motivator. i'd like to see him turn over the offense to the OC entirely if he becomes a coach.

 

edit: almost forgot: floyd reese sucks.

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edit: almost forgot: floyd reese sucks.

:lol: He really sent that team through cap hell.

 

You're right about Gregg Williams being under contract, but I think the rumor is that he'll be fired after this season. Their defense has underperformed, but a lot of that can be blamed on Derrick Harvey's extended holdout & their suddenly average run game not eating up the clock.

 

So I think he'd be an interesting guy to bring in. He's known as a disciplinarian, which should help cut down on our D's mental mistakes.

 

About David Lee: I have no idea if he's more than a WildDawg guy. He was Arkansas' OC before coming to Miami, so it could be that's all he's got.

 

But like you, I'm more interesting in making sure that we have an evil defensive genius. That would be sweet.

 

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seems like there are two directions lee could go in: he's either a) just the WildDawg guy or B) ken whisenhunt. either way, seems like he's worth an interview for OC.

 

it does seem we're getting a bit ahead of ourselves, though. chud's not even been fired and we're already picking his replacement.

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Yeah - if we go evil genius as HC, then it's possible that Chud could be kept on (though I don't think it's likely). If McDaniels gets the job, I'm sure he'll want to bring in someone who runs his system.

 

Some team's going to get a good TE coach in Chud. I wonder if Ravens OC Cam Cameron brings Chud (& his knowledge of our personnel) to Baltimore.

 

 

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More wisdom from Jim "evil defensive genius" Schwartz:

 

SCHWARTZ: I think the biggest mistake I’ve made as a coordinator was trying to do everything the exact same way that we had done it the year before. If I’ve learned anything about being a coordinator in this league, I’ve found out you better be adaptable. You better be able to change. In my first year as a coordinator we lost five of our top six defensive backs. We weren’t ready for that. We weren’t ready to have a more simplified scheme, to be able to let the younger guys step in and be a little bit more effective. I don’t know if you can go into a season and say we’re going to be a man team or a blitz team. With the way the salary cap operates, you’re going to have turnover in personnel. One year you may be a great four-man rush team, but the next year you may have to blitz to get pressure on the quarterback. One year you may be really good at playing zone, the next year you may not. The biggest thing is being able to adapt from season to season and accentuate the strengths of your team, while trying to minimize their weaknesses.

And I love this comment:

 

“Football is a game that needs to be played with emotion, intensity and camaraderie,” defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz said. “It’s not a just a lunch pail job. You have to bring a little more to it, and that’s what the guys have been doing.”
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that's great stuff. exactly the kind of thing i want to hear my coach say and be able to do.

 

he also uses advanced stat analysis, things like DVOA, that football geeks use to determine teams' effectiveness. it likely gives him an edge, and is something i think all teams should do to determine what they're really doing well.

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I'd assumed that Schwartz had a Belichick-like stoic demeanor. Apparently, that's not the case:

 

“Sometimes you’ve got to light a fire under people’s butts,” said [LB Brad] Kassell, who received an escort into the end zone from defensive tackle Randy Starks and linebacker Keith Bulluck. “Sometimes that takes getting your butt whooped. We never want to have a performance like that again. The coaches were preaching emotion this week. As you saw this week, we ran around and people made plays. I think we just came out flat last week. As you know, football is an emotional game and you’ve got to play with some emotion.”

 

Defensive Coordinator Jim Schwartz was the team’s biggest emotional leader on the sideline, screaming and gesturing to the crowd on several occasions to make noise. And what he witnessed from his defense was exactly what he expected.

 

“Last week we came out dead, and Coach Schwartz made that one of his points in our first meeting,” Bulluck said. “He pointed out only two guys getting excited on our first snap of our NFL season. I’m pretty sure today after our first snap he saw all 11 guys in there and on probably every play getting excited. That’s what football is all about.”

 

 

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Honestly my first choice for GM was to keep Savage, but I already lost on that one. My 2nd choice would be to keep him on as personnel director, but nope.

 

GM, I'm not sure, I'd like someone who is going to stick around for a while, build with good talent through the draft, and give us some more players to be proud of.

 

Part of my uneasyness with Pioli is that New England really seems to not have any loyalty to a lot of their players. I mean, they've had a revolving door at their RB spot through this entire era. Well, Kevin Faulk has been there a while. And I guess plenty of others have been there for a while, too. . . maybe I'm just uneasy about the execs coming out of New England.

 

GM, I'm not sure which direction I would go, as I don't know enough about the candidates and who else is available. I don't particularly like Parcells, but I guess Pioli would be good.

 

Coaching, I'd like to go young and fiery. Ryan, Spagnuolo (sp?), McDaniels, Garrett. . .

 

I'm a bit split on the Savage firing. If truth be told, Savage was a terrible personnel manager, then he had no business being anything other than head scout. So if the team had dysfunction from the top, that DOES trickle down. If that is truth, then I'm glad Savage is not our GM. On the flip side, I think he was an excellent talent evaluator, and did a great job on getting our roster majorly upgraded. Even if the talent didn't execute as they should have.

 

That being said, I'd like Pioli as GM (not sure I'd like McKay or Reese as both have proven to run dysfunctional front offices). If we can't get Pioli, I don't want a GM. I think we go with a VP of Player Personnel and a VP of Football Operations who would both report to a President.

 

For head coach, I think I'd really like to see Grimm. If not Grimm... I'd like to get one of those young guns who nobody thinks is ready, but demands and gets the respect of the players and ekes every last ounce of heart out of them. I mean rookie head coaches can be successful. Look at Pittsburgh, Miami, and Atlanta as examples (Pittsburgh is not a great example, as the team was well set by Cowher and company before Tomlin got there.) But I suppose rookie, young head coaches can be as much a crap shoot as QB's. I mean for every Fisher, Tomlin, Smith, Sparano, you also get a Kiffin, Davis, Belichek (first time), etc. So what young guns out there do I think could be good? Hue Jackson or Rex Ryan.

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seems like there are two directions lee could go in: he's either a) just the WildDawg guy or B) ken whisenhunt. either way, seems like he's worth an interview for OC.

 

it does seem we're getting a bit ahead of ourselves, though. chud's not even been fired and we're already picking his replacement.

 

I'd actually like to keep Chud. I don't think he's a bad OC. Any OC will look bad when the recievers drop balls and the QB's suck. But if we have to get rid of Chud, then lets get Hue Jackson as OC if not Head Coach.

 

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