Guest Aloysius Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 PFW collected some interesting comments from anonymous scouts, coaches, and FO guys about Phil Savage, Randy Lerner, and RAC-n-ROLLS: “Too many head coaches have no presence about them. If I’m hiring a head coach, I want someone with a presence. Some of these head coaches look like Kris Kringle on the sidelines. Just look at Wade Phillips. He looks like he should be on a Campbell’s Soup commercial walking around the sideline. You think DeMarcus Ware is going to respond to a guy like him getting in his grill? “(Browns GM) Phil Savage is the same way. He’s such a warm, nice guy — almost to his detriment. He’s the polar opposite of (Chargers GM) A.J. Smith. (Savage is) the kind of guy that has probably never raised his voice. He wears his religion on his sleeve. He yaps about the gospel instead of just living it. Owners do not like that kind of stuff. Guys like Phil wind up winning because they are good-hearted, mean well and at the end of the day, there are a lot more positives than negatives. But he has had a rocky road getting to where he is today.” “It would cost nearly $20 million for the Browns to buy out the contracts of Romeo Crennel, Phil Savage and (offensive coordinator) Rob Chudzinski, but the owner is on record as saying he does not care what it costs to build a winner. … When you are a billionaire, even in this economy, people don’t realize how small of a number millions is. It’s just a couple of zeroes. It’s nothing to a billionaire. Why (do) you think Crennel looks so smug? He doesn’t care if he gets fired. He’ll take his $8 million-$9 million and go off into the sun, go be a position coach somewhere and just enjoy coaching away from the spotlight.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ATENEARS Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 One of my brothers is a religious freak and he hangs with Phil's brother a lot. They are constantly doing religious functions with Phil and many others associated with the Browns. So much so, that I've wondered how these guys hold day jobs. Even though I've been invited more times than I can count, I've never rubbed elbows with the Savages' ... to tell you the truth they are scary religious people (my brother included) ... too cult like for me ... much to serious about converting others than walking the walk, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffer X Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 That's Mark Price-ish weirdness. What if he tries to scout a Muslim or sign one? I'm just more and more convinced he needs a much more diminished role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We need Tom Tupa Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 much to serious about converting others than walking the walk, IMO.Not to hijack the thread, but converting others IS walking the walk. At least, according to Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aloysius Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 What if he tries to scout a Muslim or sign one? We have both Muslim (Hamza Abdullah) and Jewish (Lennie Friedman) players on our team. And Savage did try to sign Chester Taylor, who (according to Next Man Up) was one of the few players in Baltimore who left the locker room when the team said the Lord's Prayer before the game. So it seems like winning takes priority over religion. What most interested me is how the PFW blurb presented Savage as this stoic, soft-spoken guy. That may be true, but we've heard other accounts recently that made him out to be...well...an asshole. Throwing Romeo under the bus right before Thanksgiving seemed to be Exhibit A in that argument. And there was this quote from a league inside over at PFT: Frankly, if Savage ends up sticking around, we think his wings would need to be dramatically clipped; as one league insider opined of Savage, “His skin’s like an onion and he loves the microphone. It’s a recipe for disaster.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JewDago Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 lennie friedman could have the most jewish name in the history of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YtownBrownsBacker Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 You know things are really bad with your team when they even rag on a guy for being a christan. That's pretty sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aloysius Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 lennie friedman could have the most jewish name in the history of football. I think Marv Levy comes pretty close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samoth Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Bill Goldberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alporcini Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Bill Goldberg. Herschel Walker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Hands Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 here's a list as according to wikipedia: Football (American) Joe Alexander, G, U.S. football player Lyle Alzado, DE, U.S. football player Harris Barton, OL, U.S. football player Alex Bernstein, OL U.S. Football Player Baltimore Ravens, NY Jets, Cleveland Browns, Atlanta Falcons Matt Bloom, Former NFL G, T San Diego Chargers Jeremy Bloom, WR, PR Pittsburgh Steelers Noah Cantor, DT, Toronto Argonauts, Canadian Football League Eddie Cohen, WR, Hamilton Tiger-Cats, Canadian Football League Ben Davidson, DE, U.S. football player Art Dorfman, OL, U.S. football player, Buffalo Bills Hayden Epstein, K, Minnesota Vikings Jay Fiedler, QB, U.S. football player, free agent John Frank, TE, U.S. football player Benny Friedman, QB, U.S. football player, Hall of Fame Lennie Friedman, OL, Cleveland Browns Antonio Garay, DT, U.S. football player, Chicago Bears Adam Goldberg, OG, St. Louis Rams Bill Goldberg, DT, U.S. football player Marshall Goldberg, RB, U.S. football player Charles Goldenberg, G & RB, U.S. football player Randy Grossman, TE, U.S. football player, Pittsburgh Steelers Dan Hadenfeldt - P, Patriots (inactive) Sigmund Harris, QB, U.S. football player. Andrew Kline - OL, Rams Brian Kopka - K, Ravens Sid Luckman, QB, U.S. football player, Hall of Fame Sam McCullum, WR, U.S. football player Justin McCullum, WR, U.S. football player Josh Miller, P, New England Patriots Ron Mix, OT, U.S. football player, Hall of Fame Ed Newman, G, U.S. football player Harry Newman, QB, U.S. football player Igor Olshansky, DL, San Diego Chargers Gus Ornstein - QB, Jets Vitaly Pisetsky - K, Bears Sage Rosenfels - QB, Houston Texans Mike Rosenthal, T, Minnesota Vikings Mike Seidman, TE, Indianapolis Colts Allie Sherman, U.S. football player & coach, New York Giants Scott Slutzker - TE, Jets Josh Taves – DE, Panthers Andre Tippett, LB, New England Patriots Alan Veingrad, OL, U.S. football player Darren Weltman, QB Canada Football Player Miami Dolphins, NY Jets, Pittsburg Steelers, Amsterdam Admirals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aloysius Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Herschel Walker USC safety Taylor Mays is also a member of the tribe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JewDago Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 never would have known andre tippett is jewish. he's about the best jewish athlete since koufax. my mental reaction: the scene in ghostbusters where janine rings the bell and yells, "we got one!" also, while lennie's name is extremely jewish, marv himself is an überjew. dude looks like he should be wearing plaid pants pulled up to his neck and wearing SPF infinity on a beach in miami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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