DTBH Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3752018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcdonaldshoes Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 I have always liked Marty. The key question is what to do with Savage. By the way, great comment by Dan Fouts after Cribbs launched a 50 yard pass to Edwards who appeared to come down with the ball in-bounds, but was called out. No challenge from the Browns. Fouts: "What do you have to lose in challenging the play, someone is a sleep on the Browns sideline." Prophetic statement of the 08 Browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobalaz Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 Marty got a raw deal here first time around. We HAVE talent, problem is we have no discipline or direction. Marty is the RIGHT guy to bring in and whip things into shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownsFan17 Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 It would be only fitting for Marty to come back here, shut up all the critics and win his first Super Bowl. I hope Lerner is on the phone with him right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YtownBrownsBacker Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 Marty got a raw deal here first time around. We HAVE talent, problem is we have no discipline or direction. Marty is the RIGHT guy to bring in and whip things into shape. If Marty comes there will be quite a few guys not invited to camp. He is a no nonsense guy and won't put up with guys like S. Smith. I don't believe he will put up with Winslow's crap either. He would keep Chud who was with him in SD, but I hope he doesn't bring back that "bend but don't break defense". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We need Tom Tupa Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 If Marty comes, I would want to see strong coordinators. That seemed to help him be effective in SD: he was the big picture guy, but gave Cameron and Phillips enough control that he couldnt ruin a game by abandoning the passing game completely in the 4th quarter or going to the prevent with 15 minutes to go. I wonder how Wade would feel about coaching under Marty again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brennan86 Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 I wouldn't mind seeing Marty come back. This crud Crennel has no clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roach Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 i've been reading alot about Marty's first stint here. He truly was a psycho that put his interests ahead that of the team. i have not read about his time at KC, Wash or SD. If he is not a psycho, then i'm guessing he'd still be with one of those teams. i'm guessing that the word is out that you would be crazy to hire Marty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ATENEARS Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 i've been reading alot about Marty's first stint here. He truly was a psycho that put his interests ahead that of the team. i have not read about his time at KC, Wash or SD. If he is not a psycho, then i'm guessing he'd still be with one of those teams. i'm guessing that the word is out that you would be crazy to hire Marty. I roomed with Tim Manoa's cousin down at Kent. Manoa first of all hardy spoke, and when he did he didn't want to talk about football ... but if anything I can remember about his time with the Browns, it was that he thought Marty was an asshole for a coach. We liked picking his brain more about playing for Joe pa at PSU. I say 'no' to Marty ... do your homework Lerner and find a real leader that will live on the North Coast sideline for many moons to come. No more flash-in-the-pan band aid fixes that you think you can sell to the fans - just get the right guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 I agree. Marty had his time here. It is over. No flash to the past please. He is 65. We need someone who can be here for 10 or more years. No disrespect to him, but no please, just no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigred Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 I roomed with Tim Manoa's cousin down at Kent. Manoa first of all hardy spoke, and when he did he didn't want to talk about football ... but if anything I can remember about his time with the Browns, it was that he thought Marty was an asshole for a coach. We liked picking his brain more about playing for Joe pa at PSU. I say 'no' to Marty ... do your homework Lerner and find a real leader that will live on the North Coast sideline for many moons to come. No more flash-in-the-pan band aid fixes that you think you can sell to the fans - just get the right guy. That's what they need. A coach that won't put up with the stupid stuff and get in there face. RAC mister nice guy routine just hasn't worked. LT loved playing for Marty and was mad when they fired him. Marty would be a great hire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DestinFunk Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 That's what they need. A coach that won't put up with the stupid stuff and get in there face. RAC mister nice guy routine just hasn't worked. LT loved playing for Marty and was mad when they fired him. Marty would be a great hire. Im with you guys...we have had a coach that is everyones friends...i want one that is the biggest pain in the ass and rides them out of town if they cant take it...coughlin same story..look where they are?..once the team starts winning and buys into the philopsophy its on...and about the bend but dont break d ??..come on...id prefer that then the broken product we have marched out the last decade... I am one of the few that thinks marty would win quicker than cowher.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pl4tinum Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 If Lerner hires a Retard, sh!t is going to hit the fan like it never has before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigred Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 I also say marty before cowher. Marty has done it with a couple of teams. Cowher has done it with one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugzilla Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 PLEASE! Please. Please. Please hire Marty! MARTY '09!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samoth Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 I didn't realize Marty was only 65, I thought he was in his 70s. That automatically catapults him to my #1 choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JewDago Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 my take on marty is that, since he's likely to keep chud as our OC, the only thing that matters is if he'll bring in an aggressive or passive DC. if he brings in an aggressive guy, i'm all for it, especially if wade phillips gets fired in dallas. the two have worked together before and wade is an excellent DC. if he brings in a two-gap, passive guy, though, i'm decidedly against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brennan86 Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Maybe we need an ass*$(@. Instead of this Mr "Warm and Fuzzy".. Someone who will put fire under asses if needed... If not Cowher. Schottenhiemer.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 My first choice is still Cowher.....but i'd settle for Marty. Anything but warm and fuzzy....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemosley01 Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 I roomed with Tim Manoa's cousin down at Kent. Manoa first of all hardy spoke, and when he did he didn't want to talk about football ... but if anything I can remember about his time with the Browns, it was that he thought Marty was an asshole for a coach. We liked picking his brain more about playing for Joe pa at PSU. I say 'no' to Marty ... do your homework Lerner and find a real leader that will live on the North Coast sideline for many moons to come. No more flash-in-the-pan band aid fixes that you think you can sell to the fans - just get the right guy. Boo-xxxxing-hoo. AS HMFIC, Marty isn't there to be your buddy. He's there to win games, and he's damn good at doing it. That's our problem - our players want a friend, not a coach. If Marty OR Cowher, about half of these guys will be gone. Good xxxxing riddance I say. Bunch of quitters and losers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTBH Posted December 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Young, inspiring yet unproven coaches work MUCH better for teams that ALREADY HAVE a winning environment ESTABLISHED. That's the case with Tomlin in Pittsburgh and Harbaugh in Baltimore. Sean Payton made a turn around in New Orleans, but that had more to do with Drew Brees and Reggie Bush than anything else. We need a winning enviroment here, and a proven guy with a system that works and who isn't just taking guesses on the fly will probably be our best bet. Marty may be the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcdonaldshoes Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Marty back in Cleveland similar to Gibbs in Washington, Parcells in Dallas. That said, new DC is Marvin Lewis, Chud stays on as OC, Kosar comes in as QB coach to mentor BQ and teach him to shrug off Chud when he sends in an off tackle run play when the Browns are 3rd down and 25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JewDago Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 marvin lewis won't be marty's DC for two reasons: first, cinci isn't gonna fire him. second, marty runs a 3-4 and lewis runs a 4-3/cover 2. they're not compatible defenses. it only works in pittsburgh because tomlin's the HC and he working with an experienced mastermind in lebeau who's willing to learn anything he can to stay ahead of the game. but the DC has to know the ins and outs of whatever scheme he's going to run exceptionally well or you end up with an unimaginative D like we have this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiperBowl Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 If Marty comes I feel that Savage will have to go or let go of his responsibilities. does Savage have his Blackberry on speed dial to Chud during the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiperBowl Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 If Lerner hires a Retard, sh!t is going to hit the fan like it never has before what is a crennel? a Retard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YtownBrownsBacker Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 marvin lewis won't be marty's DC for two reasons: first, cinci isn't gonna fire him. second, marty runs a 3-4 and lewis runs a 4-3/cover 2. they're not compatible defenses. it only works in pittsburgh because tomlin's the HC and he working with an experienced mastermind in lebeau who's willing to learn anything he can to stay ahead of the game. but the DC has to know the ins and outs of whatever scheme he's going to run exceptionally well or you end up with an unimaginative D like we have this year. Marty ran a 4-3 Cover 2 when he was in Cleveland and also when he was in Washington. SD was the first time he ran a 3-4 and that was because of Phillips, not Marty. He fits the system to the players and not the players to a system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JewDago Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 i did not know that. i thought marty was a 3-4 guy. kinda makes me like him a little bit less. however, he probably ran a straight 4-3 the first time in cleveland b/c the cover 2 as we know it is the brainchild of tony dungy and monte kiffin from their time together in tampa. it would be interesting to see what system marty thinks are guys are best suited for, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gips Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Lerner needs to bring someone in that knows the ropes in both a GM and HC positions.. at least until a strong foundation is formed and rebuilt and the upper management and coordinators alike learn how to play under a structured organization that only a few guys can bring to this failsauce club im all for marty or cowher no more 4 year failed training courses for clueless nitwits like crennel.. Some of you guys are amazing to think that the browns can bring in another coordinator project and fix this mess i dont care how brilliant they are no coordinator can become a great head coach in cleveland until it is all restructured because we have no structure we have no trademark anymore we have no owner or president to restore or make an identity we need real coaches and real management people to build this team right so great coordinators can rightfuly inherit the job when marty or cowher leave..we do not need another bunch of on the job training goofs it just doesnt work we need to rebuild upper management first and work on down... 10 years of these wretched experiments is enough.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Qwimbley Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 We ran a lot of Tampa 2 today, thats what had Collins confused. In the Tampa 2, the MLB drops into deep mid, which is how DQ had the 2, should have been 3 INT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JewDago Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 interesting that we did that. who were our DEs? hall and wimbley? willie mac at times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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