Glenn Beck and Nazis

[VaporTrail]

http://www.gotchamediablog.com/2010/05/dai...lenn-becks.html

 

I don't understand how anyone can listen to Glenn Beck, fear-mongerer.

[heckofajobbrownie]

That's pretty brutal/hilarious takedown.

 

Honestly, how that guy ever thought he could knock someone for comparing a public policy measure to Nazi Germany and have no one notice...

[calfoxwc]

well, Beck is telling the TRUTH about the fear-mongering Obamao Mafiao Regime.

 

Watch one of his shows this week, just one, and tell me

 

all the videos of the Obamao's operatives didn't say what they said,

 

never came from where they DID come from politically, ...

 

trends. He is seeing trends, and it's based on absolute FACTs.

 

diss him all you want, but watch the pendulum swing back the other direction

 

this Nov and in 2012.

 

Then deny it, doesn't matter.

 

If the ship doesn't change course, the Nazi moves, per Kitty, who I already posted about and you

 

quietly ignore, aren't so far fetched, and that's an understatement.

 

Don't be all close minded - watch Glenn Beck, and you will be surprised at the valid content,

 

and maybe, even wonder what is going to happen to us all in this country if we do NOT change course.

[heckofajobbrownie]

I do watch Glenn Beck, and he's the most historically illiterate and poorly reasoned fool ever put on a mainstream news show. His conclusions about what he thinks he sees are so laughably wrong it makes the job of parodying him rather easy. Only the equally illiterate and foolish could believe what he's selling.

 

Lewis Black eviscerates him here, and Beck deserves every bit of it. He's everything that Paddy Chayefsky warned us about, and more.

[calfoxwc]

I don't believe you watch Glenn Beck.

 

Your appraisal lacks any kind of example or reasoning,

 

just political cult mantra.

 

Nope. Not buyin it. I don't pretend to be totally objective.

 

You do, and you lose.

[heckofajobbrownie]

Well, I do watch Glenn Beck from time to time. And clips of his show are easy to find online. Why wouldn't you believe that?

 

I talk to you, don't I? And you're the most ignorant, partisan, hateful, and unintentionally funny man I've ever come across.

[VaporTrail]

I've sat down and watched 10 minutes of an actual episode of his, it was the one where he attacked the churches. I'll never waste my time again, I'll leave the internet to find all the things this hypocrite says. It's unbelievable that he and you can call Obama a Nazi, then say the Arizona immigration spiel isn't anything at all like Nazis with a straight face. Either they both are or they both aren't. Last time I checked, neither was committing genocide. It's just ridiculous.

[heckofajobbrownie]

He's got this hysterical "born yesterday" quality to him. He's so very impressed by the last thing anyone tells him.

 

How he thought he could make a career out of warning people about our looming descent into fascism and Nazi-style socialism but then imagine he wouldn't get called on it when he attacks someone for making a Nazi comparison just tells you how unhinged this man is.

 

But it works on people like Cal and T. They think this guy is speaking Gospel truth.

[VaporTrail]

He's not unhinged, he's f*cking rich. The dude makes like 36 million and knows what he is doing is for show and viewers and ad money. I don't think he's as stupid as we'd like to think he is. He just says sensationalist shit that scares people.

[calfoxwc]

He just says sensationalist shit that scares people. Vapor

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Were you talking about Obamao BE or AE ?

[calfoxwc]

It isn't just us.

 

It's a LOT of Americans who see what is happening,

 

and who are AMERICAN enough to admit we are heading down

 

a strange, dangerous path to the loss of freedoms, and our way of life.

 

And yes, either admit you guys have not a leg to stand on in your " knee-jerk objections"

 

or get serious about the subject and read:

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<H3 class=post-title>Werthmann on How Totalinarianism Came to Austria </H3>

84 year old Kitty Werthmann is the head of the South Dakota chapter of Eagle Forum.

 

She was born in Austria and lived for seven years under Nazi rule.

 

She eventually came to the United States in 1950 to become a naturalized citizen in 1962.

 

Here she dispels some myths about the Nazi annexation of Austria and offers a warning to what remains of the West.

 

What I'm about to tell you is something you've probably never read, or will ever read in history books. I believe that I'm an eyewitness to history. I cannot tell you that Hitler took Austria by tanks and guns; it would distort history. We elected Hitler by 98% of the vote. I've never read that in any American publication. Everyone thinks that Hitler just rolled in with his tanks and took Austria over.

 

In 1938, Austria was in deep depression. We had nearly one third of our workforce unemployed, 25% inflation, and a 25% interest rate from banks. Farmers and business people were declaring bankruptcy every day. Young people were going from house to house begging for food. Not that they didn't want to work, but there simply wasn't any work. My mother was a very devout woman who believed that you have to help the people in need. I remember she had a big kettle of soup every day, on the stove, and we baked bread to feed those poor hungry people, about thirty each day.

 

The Communist Party and the National Socialist Party were fighting each other. Blocks and blocks of cities like Vienna, Lenzt, and Grotz were being destroyed. The people became desperate, and petitioned the government to let the people decide what kind of government they wanted. We looked to our neighbor on the north, Germany, where Hitler had been in power since 1933. We had been told that they didn't have unemployment or crime. But they did have a high living standard. There was nothing being said of persecution of anyone, Jewish or otherwise, just that every one was happy. We wanted the same thing for Austria. We were promised that if we would vote for Hitler, everyone would be employed in two or three weeks, and he would help the family. He also said that businesses would be helped. And the farmers would get their farms back.

 

98% of the population voted to annex Austria to Germany, and have Hitler be our ruler. We were so joyful that for three days we danced in the streets and had candlelight parades. They opened up big field kitchens and everyone was fed. After the election, everyone was appointed from Germany. Like a miracle, suddenly we had law and order. Three or four weeks later, everyone was employed. The government made sure that a lot of work was being created by the Public Work Service.

 

Hitler decided we should have equal rights for women. Before this, it was a custom that married women did not work outside of the home. The husband would be looked down (upon) because he couldn't support a family. The teaching profession was overjoyed that women could go back to the jobs they gave up for marriage. Our education was nationalized. I attended a very good school; 98% of the population was Catholic at that time, so we had religion in our schools. the day we elected Hitler, March 13, 1938, I walked into my schoolroom and where we had a cruxifix it was replaced with Hitler's picture and the flag. Our teacher, a very devout woman, stood up and told the class that we wouldn't pray or have religion anymore. We sang Deutshland, Deutshland Uber Alis and had physical education instead. Our parents were not happy about the sudden change.

 

On Sunday, we had National Youth Day. It was compulsory to attend. We were told if our parents would not send us on Sunday, they would get a stiff letter of warning the first time. The second time they would be fined the equivalent of three hundred dollars, and the third time they would be subject to jail. As time went along, we loved it. The first two hours we had political indoctrination. The rest of the day, we had sports. We all had so much fun and got our sports equipment free. We would go home and tell our parents, gleefully, what a wonderful time we were having.

 

My mother was very unhappy. When the next term started, she took me out of public school and put me in a convent. I told her she couldn't do that, and she told me that someday when I grew up, I might be grateful. I almost hated my mother. It was a very good curriculum; hardly any fun, no sports and no political indoctrination. I hated it at first, but felt I could tolerate it. Every once in a while on holidays I went home. I would go back to my old friends and ask what was going on and what they were doing. Their lifestyle was very alarming to me.

 

By that time, it was glorified to be an unwed mother; to have a baby for Hitler. They lived a very loose lifestyle, without religion. It seemed strange to me that all of this changed so suddenly. As time went along, I realized what a great deed my mother did, so that I wasn't exposed to that kind of philosophy.

 

In 1939, the war started and a food bank was established. That meant all food was rationed and you couldn't buy anything without food-stamps. At the same time, the Full Employment Law was passed. Which meant if you didn't work, you didn't get a ration card, and if you didn't have one, you starved to death. The women who stayed home and raised their family for years and didn't have any skills often had to take a job that was for men. Soon after this, the draft was implemented. It was compulsory for young people, male or female, to give one year in the Labor Core. During the day, the girls had to work on the farms and then at night, they returned to their barracks and had their military training just like the men. They were trained to be anti-aircraft gunners and in the Signal Core. After the Labor Core, they were not discharged, but were used in the front lines. When I go back to Austria and visit my friends, most of those women are emotional cripples, because they just were not geared to the same thing that men did in combat. Three months before I turned 18, I was severely injured in an air-raid attack. I nearly had a leg amputated, so I was spared having to go into the Labor Core, and into the military service.

 

Socially, Hitler had to restructure the family. When the mothers had to go out into the work-force, the government immediatiely established child care centers. You could bring your child from age four weeks on up to school age, and leave them there 24 hours a day, seven days a week, under the total absolute care of the state. There were no motherly women there to take care of the children, just people highly trained in child psychology. They raised a whole generation by state.

 

By that time, no one talked about equal rights, we knew we had been had. Before Hitler, we had very good medicine. Many doctors from America came over to train at the University of Vienna. After Hitler, all the health care was socialized; free for everyone. The doctors were all salaried by the government. The problem was, since it was free, the people were going to the doctors for everything. When the good doctor arrived at his office at eight O'clock in the morning, forty people were already waiting, and at the same time, the hospitals were full. If you needed elective surgery, you had to wait a year or two until your turn came. There was no money for research because they poured it all into free medicare for everybody. Work at the medical schools was literally stopped, so the doctors left and went to other countries.

 

As for welfare, our tax rates went up to 80%. Any young couple who got married immediately received a one thousand dollar loan from the government to establish a household. We had big programs for families. All day-care and education was free. Going to college was subsidized, and high school was taken over by the government. Everyone who was entitled to something, whether it was food-stamps, clothing, or subsidized housing, was given it by the government.

We had another agency designed to control the businesses. I had a brother-in-law who's restaurant had square tables and chairs. The government told him he had to have round tables because people can bump themselves on the corners. Then they said he had to have more bathroom facilities. It was just a small business; a dairy business with a snack bar. His business couldn't survive with all the demands. Soon, he went out of business. If the government owned the large businesses, and not many small businesses existed, they could be in control. We had consumer protection. We were told how we should shop, and what we should buy. Free enterprise was literally abolished. We had a planning agency, espeially designed for farmers and private property owners. The agents would go to the farms, count the livestock, then tell the farmer what to produce and how to produce it.

In 1944, I was a student teacher in a small village in the Alps. The villages were surrounded by mountain passes which in the winter were closed off, with snow causing people to be isolated. So people inter-married. By genetic, the offspring were often Retarded. When I got there I was told there were fifteen adult mentally Retarded people, but they were all useful and did good manual work. I knew one named Vincent really well. He was the janitor of the school. One day I looked out the window and saw Vincent and others getting into a van. I asked my superior what they were doing. She said it was the state health department, taking him to an institution to teach him a trade, and to read and write. The families had to sign a paper. The paper had a little clause that they could not visit for six months, because it would interfere with their program and they might get homesick. When the six months passed, letters started to dribble back saying these people died a natural, merciful death. The villagers were not ignorant. We suspected what was happening. Those people all left in excellent physcial health, and all died within six months. We called this euthanasia.

 

Next came gun registration. People were getting injured by guns. Hitler also said that the real way to catch the criminals (and we still had a few) was by the serial numbers of the guns, so we had to register our guns. Most of the people were law abiding and dutifully marched to the police station and registered their guns. Not long afterward, they said that it was best for everyone to turn in their guns. They already knew who had the guns, so you had to turn them in, or they would come and get them.

We knew then that we had a full dictatorship. No more freedom of speech. If you said anything against the government, you were taken away. We knew many people who were taken away, not only Jews, but priests and ministers. It didn't come overnight, it took five years from 1938 until 1943 to graduate into dictatorship. If we (would have) had a dictatorship overnight, we would have fought to our last breath, but we had creeping gradualism.

 

Now we had nothing except broom-handles. The whole thing was almost unbelievable; that you can feed all this to the masses, little by little and no one would object. It's true, those of us who sailed past the Statue of Liberty, came to a country of unbelievable freedom and opportunity. America is the greatest country in the world. Don't let freedom slip away. After America, there is no place to go.

 

That's right.

 

After America, there is no place to go.

 

If we lose freedom in America, we lose freedom everywhere.

 

There will be no place to run.

 

[calfoxwc]

Only fools would dismiss what Kitty is saying here.

[VaporTrail]

You just don't get it, do you?

[Westside Steve]

Beck aside, after 8 years of continual Bush Is A Nazi bellyaching, now all of a sudden you're pissed????

 

WSS

[heckofajobbrownie]

Who are you talking about? Who did that on the left? Anyone consequential? Can you do anything but rustle up some freaks on the street who said it? Can you name one politician or left-wing media figure who said Bush was like Hitler? Do you have an extremely popular liberal talk show host who went out virtually every week and made this claim?

 

Do you have a poll where a sizable number of liberals say Bush is doing some of the same things Hitler did?

 

There's no equivalency here, try as you might.

 

I can remember an individual submitting an ad to a MoveOn contest that made the comparison, and that ad was immediately pulled and denounced, even by MoveOn.

 

Who is denouncing Glenn Beck on the right? Anyone? Does he lose his job over it?

 

Apples and oranges.

[heckofajobbrownie]

And do you think Republican comparisons of Obama to Nazi Germany or Hitler have any merit, or do you want to keep changing the subject so as not to offend your fans?

[Mr. T]

Beck has made these same comparisons to W.

 

 

Some of you have not followed Beck until he came into play on CNN then Fox news. He was in Tampa during the Al Gore hanging chad Lock Box ordeal and soon afterwards he would start his criticism on W.

 

 

We wont get fooled again... Beck's website while in Tampa had a photoshopped picture of W and Cheney dressed in SS uniforms giving the heil sign.

[Westside Steve]

And do you think Republican comparisons of Obama to Nazi Germany or Hitler have any merit, or do you want to keep changing the subject so as not to offend your fans?

 

I change the subject?

Actually I wasn't outraged for the last 8 years.

I realize how those (you?) assholes are.

And I'm glad to point it out when you guys get all huffy.

 

" Do you have a poll where a sizable number of liberals say Bush is doing some of the same things Hitler did?

 

There's no equivalency here, try as you might."

 

 

As far as I know nobody ever took that poll.

So you want me to defend or attack what?

Maybe you could point me to the poll in which 0% of Dems answered that way.

 

 

But lets say hell yes I believe it'd be a lot more if somebody polled Dems 3 or 4 years ago.

 

 

(and are and public officials calling Arizonans law third reuch as we speak?)

WSS

[Westside Steve]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/...n-Congress.html

 

http://archive.democrats.com/preview.cfm?t...er%20Comparison

 

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0410/36365.html

 

And an old favorite:

http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=612

 

If you do a google search for Bush Hiler or combinations you find a lot.

 

Now, Heck, which Republican congressman made a comparison between Obama and Hitler?

 

WSS

[DieHardBrownsFan]

Arizona Rocks. I'm thinking of moving there. And 64 percent OF AMERICA agrees with the Arizona law. So their liberals, take the fact and spin it, ROFL.

[heckofajobbrownie]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/...n-Congress.html

 

http://archive.democrats.com/preview.cfm?t...er%20Comparison

 

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0410/36365.html

 

And an old favorite:

http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=612

 

If you do a google search for Bush Hiler or combinations you find a lot.

 

Now, Heck, which Republican congressman made a comparison between Obama and Hitler?

 

WSS

 

Sen. Jim DeMint. Rep. Paul Broun of Georgia, while repeating the same "brownshirt" nonsense that the dopes in here peddle.

 

The point is this is a fairly common Republican belief, as the poll shows. It's not a fringe.

[heckofajobbrownie]

Here's that Harris poll again:

 

- 67 percent of Republicans believe that Obama is a socialist.

- 57 percent of Republicans believe that Obama is a Muslim.

- 45 percent of Republicans believe that Obama was "not born in the United States and so is not eligible to be president."

- 38 percent of Republicans say that Obama is "doing many of the things that Hitler did."

- 24 percent of Republicans say that Obama "may be the Antichrist."

 

If this is a fringe, it's a pretty big fringe. That's a majority that don't even know simple facts. It's close to a majority "birther" party.

 

 

[Chicopee John]

- 24 percent of Republicans say that Obama "may be the Antichrist."

 

I'm among those who believe he might be. However, I am an unaffiliated voter, not a Republican.

[Mr. T]

Here's that Harris poll again:

 

- 24 percent of Republicans say that Obama "may be the Antichrist."

 

Dangit! We still have a lot more work to do. Maybe he is Spocks son?

 

If this is a fringe, it's a pretty big fringe. That's a majority that don't even know simple facts. It's close to a majority "birther" party.

 

The birther party is those who wanted to get Hillary elected. Not the republicans the birthers roots go back to the party of jackassess.

 

 

He kinda looks like that dumb kid off of dumb and dumber II

[heckofajobbrownie]

I'm among those who believe he might be. However, I am an unaffiliated voter, not a Republican.

 

I'm guessing that's a joke.

[Chicopee John]

I'm guessing that's a joke.

 

Yes or no answer, Heck. Do you believe in the Anti-Christ?

 

[smalls1129]

Here's that Harris poll again:

 

- 67 percent of Republicans believe that Obama is a socialist. Arguable depending on your definition. If you hold that there can be no private property under a socialist regime, than he is certainly not a socialist. However, has a been argued here before I don't believe there is any ONE set of economic system anymore. IE, no pure capitalist nor socialist (dictator and even communism are more about directives than economic systems). And I do believe the President leans much closer to the prospect of collectivism than individual's freedoms.

 

 

- 57 percent of Republicans believe that Obama is a Muslim. Really shouldn't matter at all. He attended a controversial Christian church forever which would damn him forever under the Muslim faith (if practicing both simultaneously) Personally I think he's probably a deist, not really needing a church (read faith) to confirm his believe

 

 

- 45 percent of Republicans believe that Obama was "not born in the United States and so is not eligible to be president." You know what's funny about this one; the only reason that I even entertain the notion at this point his because the one thing needed to shut everyone up, his long form, he won't release. You combine this with not releasing his complete college history and it is enough to say "why"? Honestly though, I am such a believer of personal privacy that I almost applaud him. I would love to think that I would have the balls not divulge anymore of my personal life than was necessary. Bottom line is that he could end this tomorrow, but he choses not to, perhaps b/c it is the greatest and (assuming false) most trivial and distracting thing ever).

 

 

 

- 38 percent of Republicans say that Obama is "doing many of the things that Hitler did."

- 24 percent of Republicans say that Obama "may be the Antichrist."

 

I would bet that among Liberals, Bush's numbers would have been pretty close

 

If this is a fringe, it's a pretty big fringe. That's a majority that don't even know simple facts. It's close to a majority "birther" party.

[VaporTrail]

[smalls1129]

 

 

Thats cute and all, but really doesn't address my point at all. Of course it goes against all common sense to even consider it. Personally, even if true, I do not want to know nor to I think it will do our country any good to have this exposed while in office,. In fact, it is a nightmare scenario that no matter the side you're on you should not wish. The bloodshed would be horrific (depending on how exposed or what not). My only point was, just show it, and despite your nice flow chart nobody outside of the hospital in Hawaii has seen the original long form bc. Just truth.

[calfoxwc]

Cal: I posted a great article about socialism coming to ... you know, KITTY WERTHMANN...

 

did you libs read the article? No commentsies?

 

No comment at all? You just ignore the whole deal AGAIN, so you can keep

 

being pouty about nasty comparisons to what the Obamao regime is doing, what direction we are being taken

 

....

 

Heck: What article? I don't see no stinking article about Kitty Werthmann ! I can't see that article at all !