scubadhp Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 So, if the season ended today, what number pick would we have in the 1st round of the upcoming draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AdaM Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 So, if the season ended today, what number pick would we have in the 1st round of the upcoming draft? It takes less effort to go to espn or nfl.com and look at the standings and find out for yourself than it does to post this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubadhp Posted November 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Thanks, you've been so helpfull... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AdaM Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Thanks, you've been so helpfull... And you still havent looked, you're lazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greythan Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Thanks, you've been so helpfull... Adam's right. Do some basic research, post it and pose a question. You'll get good feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AdaM Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Adam's right. Do some basic research, post it and pose a question. You'll get good feedback. I'm not trying to be an asshole. But this isnt the "Post your random question and our tech support agents will answer it-browns board". What is the way to find out where the browns would be selecting first in next years draft if the season ended today? -Well you head over to espn.com and check the 'standings'. Each teams standings correlates to their draft pick number. Several teams are tied at 4-7 like the browns, so they will be picking with that group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WPB Dawg Fan Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 actually, if you go to NFL.com and click on standings....and choose LEAGUE...it shows you EXACTLY where we are.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pl4tinum Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Looks like we'd be picking 11th at this point. Savage will trade his pick with Baltimore so we can move down and select a good christian boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubadhp Posted November 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 You got me, I was just being lazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 I'm not saying the poster did or did not know what determined the draft order, I think the vast majority of fans know. But what if this question was raised by a new fan, or maybe a 8 year old fan without the knowledge yet? I know that if he understands all of this that it was him being lazy, or a bad thread starter, but for us not to at least inform him on how it is determined before we begrudgingly send him off to another site are we possibly looking like jackasses? Just a thought, the season is lost, I can see the potential of the whole board getting really cranky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greythan Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 No Thomas. There's a basic standard. If you are computer savvy enough to establish an account here and are, by definition of doing so interested in Browns football, its not unrealistic to expect folks to do their own basic research. He wasn't overly bashed, but should have done the research. Common courtesy actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaManBeagles Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 The Browns need to try and trade there 11 pick down in the Draft! Hopefully get a couple second round picks for the 1st, trade a QB for a 2 and 3! The Browns need help everywhere! HammerDown! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 No Thomas. There's a basic standard. If you are computer savvy enough to establish an account here and are, by definition of doing so interested in Browns football, its not unrealistic to expect folks to do their own basic research. He wasn't overly bashed, but should have done the research. Common courtesy actually. I didn't mean to claim he was 'overly bashed'. I think letting whoever it is that wants to know the information be sent to find it for themselves is fine, I just think maybe we could ask them if they need help determining it. I may be off base here, It seems this board has a lot more (not entirely) intelligent posters than any sports themed message board I've been to and sometimes we may expect all fans to have the basic knowledge. As I continue this thread it just seems more and more insignificant... but I think I tend to do that to the threads I respond to anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AdaM Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 I didn't mean to claim he was 'overly bashed'. I think letting whoever it is that wants to know the information be sent to find it for themselves is fine, I just think maybe we could ask them if they need help determining it. I may be off base here, It seems this board has a lot more (not entirely) intelligent posters than any sports themed message board I've been to and sometimes we may expect all fans to have the basic knowledge. As I continue this thread it just seems more and more insignificant... but I think I tend to do that to the threads I respond to anyway. Take it as a sign. just kidding... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 The Browns should trade down, but not out of the first round. There will some team that has a need that will want to trade up to draft a player they love that will give up a third at the minimum. The Browns have so many holes they could use another second or third round pick. They need to make a few steals, some blue chip players that have first round talent but lack the flash and/or charisma to go in the first round. Their biggest needs are: Possesion reciever linebackers workhorse running back The Browns can hopefully get a top-shelf linebacker in the first (provided there are any left that aren't a reach), a solid posession reciever in the second, a workhorse running back in the second to form a committee with Harrison, and some more linebackers in the following rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubadhp Posted November 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 I'm surprised this topic is still going. I was lazy this morning when I first posted, and got jumped on my a few very cranky fellow Browns fans. I'm 26 years old and have been a Browns fan as long as I can remember, and all I asked was a simple question. So I'm sorry Grethan and Adam if you were miffed by my laziness, I'll try not to let it happen again, wouldn't want to annoy you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OconRecon Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 http://www.nfldraftdog.com/Mock_Drafts/200..._mock_draft.htm After yesterday, we're at 9th in this mock draft picking Laurinaitis, Ohio State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pl4tinum Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 just ignore them... they were too lazy to look it up and post it for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AdaM Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 just ignore them... they were too lazy to look it up and post it for you I really don't know what to expect of JL, I think there are better LB options... like Marcus Freeman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WPB Dawg Fan Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Right now we are tied with 3 other clubs for draft slots 8-11. The tiebreaker for this is strength of schedule: TIE-BREAKING PROCEDURE FOR SELECTION MEETING If two or more clubs are tied in the selection order, the strength-of-schedule tie breaker is applied, subject to the following exceptions for playoff clubs: 1. The Super Bowl winner is last and the Super Bowl loser next-to-last. 2. Any non-Super Bowl playoff club involved in a tie moves down in drafting priority within its tied segment as follows: * For a loss inthe Wild-Card playoffs, a plus factor of one-half. * For participation, win or lose, in the Divisional Playoffs, a plus factor of one. * For a loss in the conference championship Game, a plus factor of one. 3. Clubs with the best won-lost-tied records after these steps are applied will drop to their appropriate spots at the bottom of the tied segment. In no case will the above process move a club lower than the segmentin which it was initially tied. 4. Tied clubs will alternate priority throughout the 7 rounds of the draft. In case of a tie involving three or more teams, the club with priority in the first round will drop to the bottom of the tied segment in the second round and move its way back to the top of the segment in each succeeding round. Therefore.... Cleveland 67.5 wins San Diego 65 wins Jacksonville 62.5 wins Houston 60.5 wins So we would pick 11th at the current standings. Looking ahead: Cleveland 32 San Diego 25 Jacksonville 30 Houston 29 We are likely to win only 1 game....with Houston/Jax/SD likely to win as many as 3 each... Neither Oakland nor SF (3-8) are likely to catch us...so I would say our final draft slot will be... 8th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aloysius Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 http://www.nfldraftdog.com/Mock_Drafts/200..._mock_draft.htm After yesterday, we're at 9th in this mock draft picking Laurinaitis, Ohio State. It's interesting that he has Aaron Curry going at pick #5. I'm a big fan of Curry's, yet I have a hard time seeing him go that high. Curry may have the talent to warrant a top-five pick, but it's extremely rare that a linebacker goes that high. If you exclude 3-4 OLB (who are primarily pass-rushers), only twice in the past ten years has a linebacker been selected in the first five picks. 2008 - Keith Rivers (Pick #9) 2007 - Patrick Willis (Pick #11) 2006 - A.J. Hawk (Pick #5) 2005 - Derrick Johnson (Pick # 15) 2004 - Jonathan Vilma (Pick #12) 2003 - Nick Barnett (Pick #29) 2002 - Napoleon Harris (Pick #23) 2001 - Dan Morgan (Pick #11) 2000 - LaVarr Arrington (Pick #2) 1999 - Chris Claiborne (Pick #9) Also, St. Louis desperately needs OT help - Orlando Pace should be retiring soon, and Alex Barron isn't starting material. If I had to guess, I'd say they bring in LB help during free agency, then draft their franchise left tackle in April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aloysius Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Here's how Mel Kiper ranks the LB's on his Big Board: ILB Aaron Curry, LB, Wake Forest (#1) Rey Maualuga, LB, USC (#3) James Laurinaitis, LB , Ohio State (#15) 3-4 OLB Brian Cushing, LB, USC (#7) Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas (#8) Clay Matthews, LB, USC (#19) Larry English, LB, No. Illinois (#20) Clint Sintim, LB , Virginia (#24) As I've mentioned before, I don't think Laurinaitis projects well to a 3-4 defense. Also, I think Cushing would best be served playing 4-3 SLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WPB Dawg Fan Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Looking at the remaining schedule, the top 10 should go something like this: Detroit - They need a QB and Stafford looks like a fit KC - OL is a HUGE issue, look for A.Smith, OT to go here Cincinnati - They need a ton...but help for them to look to help Palmer....despite 85 going away, I think they go RB, C.Wells St. Louis - Their OL is still a mess....they shore it up with M.Oher, OT Seattle - They have ZERO WR's...Crabtree, WR San Francisco - no QB...I think they draft AND trade for one...Bradford, QB Oakland - the just dumped CB Hall....and replace him with Jenkins, CB Cleveland - we will have a choice between the top prospects of Orakpo, DE/V.Davis, CB/Curry, ILB/Maualuga, ILB/Johnson, DE (move to OLB). At least these are the usual suspects on most boards. I find it funny that MOST boards are giving us Davis at this spot. Although we are thin at CB, I think our LB corp is much more of a need. Depending on what we think of Hall and Bell will determine where we go here....but for some reason I think we go with versatility and all around talent...and go with Curry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aloysius Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 I agree that Detroit goes QB with their first pick, especially because they can use their second 1st (Dallas's pick from the Roy Williams trade) to bolster their OL. But if Bradford declares, I think the Lions would take him over Stafford. Also, I think KC has a bigger need on D. Their defense has only notched 6 sacks this season, so they're in desperate need of an elite pass-rusher. Orakpo's stock seems to be sliding a little bit, but a great combine workout could push him all the way up to #2. Wells at #3 would be a bad move for Cinci, so it's probably what they'll end up doing. Oakland could take Jenkins (Al Davis loves DB's), but I like WalterFootball's prediction that Davis will fall in love Taylor Mays. If he's run a sub-4.4 40, as some are predicting, Davis won't be able to help himself. And about our pick: I'm hoping that we eliminate the CB issue by bringing in a free agent. Chris Gamble would make sense: a big CB who could push Brandon McDonald to nickel. But Gamble may end up demanding huge $ on the open market, so we may be better off opting for a cheaper option like Jabari Greer & letting him battle McDonald for the starting job. Depending on what we think of Hall and Bell will determine where we go here....but for some reason I think we go with versatility and all around talent...and go with Curry. I sure hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 I say do what we can to bring in Gamble if Carolina doesn't franchise him (with Peppers contract up, they won't). Then get an impact lb'er in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aloysius Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Another interesting option would be to sign Channing Crowder, then use our 1st Round pick on an OLB or CB. If we win 2-3 more games, thereby taking us out of the running for Curry (& possibly Rey Rey), that might be a better option for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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