TexasAg1969 Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 7 hours ago, mjp28 said: One bad side of town or neighborhood or suburb can kind of ruin things for a ciy or region happens now all over the world. Just look at South Chicago or the east side of Cleveland or South Central LA or many other cities now. There are areas of Houston and Dallas I would definitely have on my concealed 9mm (I have the license to carry). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 Cleveland is definetely a high crime city, the suburbs are mostly safe however. I wouldn't go to E78th and St. Clair where my dear grandparents lived now or I would probably be killed because I'm white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted July 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 17 hours ago, DieHardBrownsFan said: Cleveland is definetely a high crime city, the suburbs are mostly safe however. I wouldn't go to E78th and St. Clair where my dear grandparents lived now or I would probably be killed because I'm white. You might more likely be killed for some other reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 3 hours ago, The Gipper said: You might more likely be killed for some other reasons. Not likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted July 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, DieHardBrownsFan said: Not likely. YeahYeah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted July 25, 2019 Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 On 7/23/2019 at 8:34 PM, DieHardBrownsFan said: Cleveland is definetely a high crime city, the suburbs are mostly safe however. I wouldn't go to E78th and St. Clair where my dear grandparents lived now or I would probably be killed because I'm white. There are areas in our wonderful country that even our well armed and trained police won't go without backup. Sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted July 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 hour ago, mjp28 said: There are areas in our wonderful country that even our well armed and trained police won't go without backup. Sad. Sherlock Holmes said that he would rather hang around some of the worst slums of London rather than be out into the countryside because he thought crime out there was far worse so maybe it’s the same in this country maybe the cities are safer than the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted July 25, 2019 Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 7 hours ago, The Gipper said: Sherlock Holmes said that he would rather hang around some of the worst slums of London rather than be out into the countryside because he thought crime out there was far worse so maybe it’s the same in this country maybe the cities are safer than the country. The bayous of Louisiana hold a lot of secrets. James Lee Burke is an excellent crime novel writer that brings that to life in his "Dave Robicheaux" books. But the best kept secret is the deep woods of East Texas. Rumor has it that the mafia that operated in Galveston years ago loved to "visit" The Big Thicket" with their former "friends". https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=AwrEeNuIjjldVAkA9wwPxQt.;_ylu=X3oDMTByMjB0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--?p=the+big+thicket+east+texas&fr=yhs-pty-pty_packages&hspart=pty&hsimp=yhs-pty_packages#id=68&iurl=https%3A%2F%2Fmyrahmcilvain.files.wordpress.com%2F2013%2F05%2F20100330143955old_big_thicket.png&action=click Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted July 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 2 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said: The bayous of Louisiana hold a lot of secrets. James Lee Burke is an excellent crime novel writer that brings that to life in his "Dave Robicheaux" books. But the best kept secret is the deep woods of East Texas. Rumor has it that the mafia that operated in Galveston years ago loved to "visit" The Big Thicket" with their former "friends". https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=AwrEeNuIjjldVAkA9wwPxQt.;_ylu=X3oDMTByMjB0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--?p=the+big+thicket+east+texas&fr=yhs-pty-pty_packages&hspart=pty&hsimp=yhs-pty_packages#id=68&iurl=https%3A%2F%2Fmyrahmcilvain.files.wordpress.com%2F2013%2F05%2F20100330143955old_big_thicket.png&action=click Yep, been there to the Big Thicket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted August 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 On 7/21/2019 at 2:35 PM, mjp28 said: Well my old favorite Forbes magazine 20 happiest and unhappiest cities in 2019........hello Ohio? Top 20 Happiest Cities in America https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurabegleybloom/2019/03/12/20-happiest-and-20-unhappiest-cities-in-america/#7a6bad483a70 Plano, Texas Irvine, California Madison, Wisconsin Fremont, California Huntington Beach, California Fargo, North Dakota Grand Prairie, Texas San Jose, California Scottsdale, Arizona San Francisco, California Bismarck, North Dakota Overland Park, Kansas Santa Rosa, California Austin, Texas Sioux Falls, South Dakota Pearl City, Hawaii Glendale, California San Diego, California St. Paul, Minnesota Charleston, South Carolina 20 Unhappiest Cities in America Detroit, Michigan Toledo, Ohio Charleston, West Virginia Birmingham, Alabama Cleveland, Ohio Gulfport, Mississippi Little Rock, Arkansas Huntington, West Virginia Newark, New Jersey Mobile, Alabama Augusta, Georgia St. Louis, Missouri Fort Smith, Arkansas Cincinnati, Ohio Akron, Ohio Fayetteville, North Carolina Columbus, Georgia Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Memphis, Tennessee Shreveport, Louisiana How was happiness or unhappiness measured what did they use a massive mood ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 So who is this baseball Boomhauer? 1 Post? WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted August 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 4 hours ago, Westside Steve said: So who is this baseball Boomhauer? 1 Post? WSS Not sure what you are referring to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 6 hours ago, The Gipper said: Not sure what you are referring to. The guy that wrote the second Post in this thread. Has contributed one post and that's the bitch about Cleveland I'm smelling troll. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 Can't argue with what he posted .. It's old but at the time very relevant. There were 5 Ohio cities on the list in his link from Forbes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted August 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Axe said: Can't argue with what he posted .. It's old but at the time very relevant. There were 5 Ohio cities on the list in his link from Forbes. The hell I can't argue with what he posted. Why on earth would you ever think that bullshit is inarguable? Again...here are the criteria that the article he posted used: Our Misery Measure takes into account: unemployment, taxes (both sales and income), commute times, violent crime and how its pro sports teams have fared over the past two years. We also factored in two indexes put together by Portland, Ore., researcher Bert Sperling that gauge weather and Superfund pollution sites. (Superfund sites are ground pollution issues. Why is not air and water pollution a factor as well? Lastly we considered corruption based on convictions of public officials in each area as tracked by the Public Integrity Section of the U.S. Department of Justice. (I am trying to figure out how this particular matter has anything to do with overall happiness) I guess I could go through these all again and demonstrate how Cleveland is NOT anywhere near at the top of these lists than many, many other cities. If I were to get updated to 2018 data....similar to what I had put on here before, again, I can guarantee that a city like San Diego suffers even worse in all these categories than does Cleveland. Hell...as I said, they had another sports team leave town....where Cleveland had teams in the sports championship finals 5 times in the last 5-6 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted August 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 Unemployment for 2019: https://www.bls.gov/web/metro/laummtrk.htm Cleveland at 4.7%. About average for all US metro areas. All of the following had higher: Danville, IL Metropolitan Statistical Area 4.7 308 Elizabethtown-Fort Knox, KY Metropolitan Statistical Area 4.7 308 New Bern, NC Metropolitan Statistical Area 4.7 308 Waterbury, CT Metropolitan NECTA 4.7 308 Wheeling, WV-OH Metropolitan Statistical Area 4.7 308 Clarksville, TN-KY Metropolitan Statistical Area 4.8 316 Goldsboro, NC Metropolitan Statistical Area 4.8 316 Greensboro-High Point, NC Metropolitan Statistical Area 4.8 316 Las Vegas-Henderson-Paradise, NV Metropolitan Statistical Area 4.8 316 Memphis, TN-MS-AR Metropolitan Statistical Area 4.8 316 Salinas, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area 4.8 316 Scranton--Wilkes-Barre--Hazleton, PA Metropolitan Statistical Area 4.8 316 Baton Rouge, LA Metropolitan Statistical Area 4.9 323 East Stroudsburg, PA Metropolitan Statistical Area 4.9 323 Prescott, AZ Metropolitan Statistical Area 4.9 323 Bay City, MI Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.0 326 Beckley, WV Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.0 326 Decatur, IL Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.0 326 New Orleans-Metairie, LA Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.0 326 Tucson, AZ Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.0 326 Grants Pass, OR Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.1 331 Saginaw, MI Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.1 331 Sebring, FL Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.1 331 Walla Walla, WA Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.1 331 Bremerton-Silverdale, WA Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.2 335 Chico, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.2 335 Greenville, NC Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.2 335 Hattiesburg, MS Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.2 335 Homosassa Springs, FL Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.2 335 Houma-Thibodaux, LA Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.2 335 Lafayette, LA Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.2 335 Parkersburg-Vienna, WV Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.2 335 The Villages, FL Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.2 335 Albuquerque, NM Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.3 344 Jackson, MS Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.3 344 Jacksonville, NC Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.3 344 Johnstown, PA Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.3 344 Kennewick-Richland, WA Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.3 344 Olympia-Tumwater, WA Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.3 344 Rockford, IL Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.3 344 Bellingham, WA Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.4 351 Fairbanks, AK Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.4 351 Flint, MI Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.4 351 Huntington-Ashland, WV-KY-OH Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.4 351 Pine Bluff, AR Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.4 351 Weirton-Steubenville, WV-OH Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.5 356 Beaumont-Port Arthur, TX Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.6 357 Brownsville-Harlingen, TX Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.6 357 Spokane-Spokane Valley, WA Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.6 357 Youngstown-Warren-Boardman, OH-PA Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.6 357 Alexandria, LA Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.7 361 Anchorage, AK Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.7 361 Fayetteville, NC Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.7 361 Shreveport-Bossier City, LA Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.7 361 Monroe, LA Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.8 365 Mount Vernon-Anacortes, WA Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.8 365 Cumberland, MD-WV Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.9 367 Gulfport-Biloxi-Pascagoula, MS Metropolitan Statistical Area 5.9 367 Stockton-Lodi, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area 6.0 369 Flagstaff, AZ Metropolitan Statistical Area 6.1 370 Rocky Mount, NC Metropolitan Statistical Area 6.1 370 Hammond, LA Metropolitan Statistical Area 6.2 372 McAllen-Edinburg-Mission, TX Metropolitan Statistical Area 6.2 372 Yakima, WA Metropolitan Statistical Area 6.2 372 Farmington, NM Metropolitan Statistical Area 6.3 375 Lake Havasu City-Kingman, AZ Metropolitan Statistical Area 6.3 375 Las Cruces, NM Metropolitan Statistical Area 6.3 375 Sierra Vista-Douglas, AZ Metropolitan Statistical Area 6.3 375 Modesto, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area 6.5 379 Longview, WA Metropolitan Statistical Area 6.7 380 Yuba City, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area 6.7 380 Madera, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area 7.0 382 Fresno, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area 7.1 383 Hanford-Corcoran, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area 7.9 384 Bakersfield, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area 8.0 385 Merced, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area 8.1 386 Visalia-Porterville, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area 9.1 387 El Centro, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area 18.6 388 Yuma, AZ Metropolitan Statistical Area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted August 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 Taxes: https://www.businessinsider.com/state-and-local-income-and-sales-taxes-in-the-25-biggest-us-cities-2019-3 Cleveland NOT in the top 25 in taxes among major US cities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted August 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 Commute times: https://www.businessinsider.com/worst-commutes-in-us-ranked-2019-6 Cleveland not in the Top 50 of worst commute times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted August 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 Superfund/pollution: This website gives the worst cities in America...combining groud/water/air https://www.forbes.com/2011/02/28/most-toxic-cities-personal-finance_slide.html#199bcecb49a8 Cleveland NOT listed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted August 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 Sports "misery". While Cleveland could have had this claim for a while....it is no longer the case: Cavs 4 straight finals and a title. Indians in the World Series. Compare to these: San Diego...no title since 1963. Two teams left town. Clippers/Chargers Buffalo...no title since 1965. Milwaukee...no title since 1971....unless you count the Packers Portland...not title since 1977 Salt Lake City....no title since early 70s While these are newer markets....places like Charlotte/Nashville/Memphis/Orlando/Jacksonville/Las Vegas/OK City/ and others have never had a team win a title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted August 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 Crime rate: Cleveland's is not good, may just in or just outside the Top Ten....but no worse than all these towns ahead of it: https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-united-states.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted August 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 Weather: Highly...highly subjective. I have ALWAYS said a winter in Cleveland is better than a summer anywhere in the south. Here is one opinion....which includes bad cold weather cities, and bad hot weather cities: https://www.bobvila.com/slideshow/these-30-places-have-the-worst-weather-in-america-51814#lubbock-weather So...Cleveland better than Houston/LA/Orlando/Jacksonville/Tampa/Portland/Seattle/New Orleans/Mobile/Dallas/Las Vegas/Phoenix/Tuscon So Bob Vila agrees essentially with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 2 hours ago, The Gipper said: The hell I can't argue with what he posted. Why on earth would you ever think that bullshit is inarguable? Why? I'm not a blind homer, .. Plus it was damn near 10 yrs ago.. Who gives a shit? The man posted a link to a Forbes list as of 2010.. This was at the time when you started this misguided thread.. There ARE 5 Ohio cities on that Forbes list... You stated " Some peckerwood troll claimed that Ohio had the Five most miserable cities in the country per Forbes magazine".. I don't know who this guy is/was or if he was the "peckerwood troll" you referred to because this was before my time here.. But the man DID break it off in your ass with proof.. That much is inarguable.. And THAT was my point...All the rest has been silly deflection... Why use a one time puppet name of baseballboomhaue? No idea.. Maybe the Forbes writer's last name holds a clue.. Perhaps he simply wanted to escape the pointless rage googling... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted August 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 15 minutes ago, Axe said: Why? I'm not a blind homer, .. Plus it was damn near 10 yrs ago.. Who gives a shit? You, apparently...since you keep bringing it up. The man posted a link to a Forbes list as of 2010.. This was at the time when you started this misguided thread.. There ARE 5 Ohio cities on that Forbes list... You stated " Some peckerwood troll claimed that Ohio had the Five most miserable cities in the country per Forbes magazine".. I don't know who this guy is/was or if he was the "peckerwood troll" you referred to because this was before my time here.. But the man DID break it off in your ass with proof.. That much is inarguable.. And THAT was my point...All the rest has been silly deflection... Why use a one time puppet name of baseballboomhaue? No idea.. Maybe the Forbes writer's last name holds a clue.. Perhaps he simply wanted to escape the pointless rage googling... Does your obtuseness know no bounds. Forbes...or whomever can claim whatever they want...and I am free to challenge what they claim...based on their own criteria. I challenged it then and showed it was BS...based on their own criteria....and I challenged it again just now...8-9 years later...based on their own criteria, and again showed that it was BS. You say, apparently that you can't argue with what someone says.....simply because they say it. Why then, Can I make any unsubstantiated statement about anything and have you declare it incapable or being argued with? I could say that Axe is a shitty guitar player with 5 thumbs on each hand. Would you not want to take issue, and argue with that? (by the way, the same said Forbes magazine stated that my son's school, Kenyon, had the most beautiful college campus in the world. I didn't disagree with that.....but maybe other would. So, you see, it can all be subjective sometimes. But when you set out specific criteria...and do NOT adhere to that...you are subject to challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 27 minutes ago, The Gipper said: I keep bringing it up? WTF are you talking about? You posted " Some peckerwood troll claimed that Ohio had the Five most miserable cities in the country per Forbes magazine "".. Then someone posted a link to the Forbes magazine article in which 5 Ohio cities" WERE listed!! Talk about obtuse.. 🤣 I could say that Axe is a shitty guitar player with 5 thumbs on each hand. Would you not want to take issue, and argue with that? I honestly wouldn't give a shit. You get used to people that don't like what you do along with those that do.. As long as those that do greatly outnumber those that don't then I'm happy.. Here.. I'll prove I'm a shitty guitarist.. The latest release "Against My Will" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted August 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 21 minutes ago, Axe said: I keep bringing it up? WTF are you talking about? You posted " Some peckerwood troll claimed that Ohio had the Five most miserable cities in the country per Forbes magazine "".. Then someone posted a link to the Forbes magazine article in which 5 Ohio cities" WERE listed!! Talk about obtuse.. 🤣 I could say that Axe is a shitty guitar player with 5 thumbs on each hand. Would you not want to take issue, and argue with that? I honestly wouldn't give a shit. You get used to people that don't like what you do along with those that do.. As long as those that do greatly outnumber those that don't then I'm happy.. Here.. I'll prove I'm a shitty guitarist.. The latest release "Against My Will" You know that I was just yanking your chain with the guitar comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 12 hours ago, The Gipper said: You know that I was just yanking your chain with the guitar comment Oh absolutely And any publicity is good publicity Let me rephrase that, I try not to miss an opportunity to promote our wares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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