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  1. Mike, I didn't draft the guy. I just want to make sure we're not giving up on him too early is all. This has to be a record for how much time I've wasted talking about a kicker. I'm all done with it. I hope we've improved the position 100%.
  2. Sometimes the rest of the story was already covered in the flow of discussion you didn't read. I already mentioned the missed extra points in the 1st post of page 2 of this thread. Here's a cut and paste: Seibert had a great year in 2019 making 25 of 29 FG attempts. The thing that puzzled me about him was as good as he was with the FGs - how does the same guy miss 5 extra point attempts? And then he began this year missing another. Again, how about the STs coach finding the flawed mechanic responsible for something that should be correctable in lieu of the knee jerk reaction?
  3. 😆 Fair enough! I only wanted a quick exhale from you. I'm still kind of baffled by it myself. I'm gonna speak fluent Calfox here and say the poor guy got Parkey-Parksies for Cody Parkey. That's like a RB getting cut today; and then the team that cut him signs Trent Richardson. Seibert had a great year in 2019 making 25 of 29 FG attempts. The thing that puzzled me about him was as good as he was with the FGs - how does the same guy miss 5 extra point attempts? And then he began this year missing another. Again, how about the STs coach finding the flawed mechanic responsible for something that should be correctable in lieu of the knee jerk reaction?
  4. If you calm down for a second - I was comparing 2 guys with a lot of promise we cut prematurely IMO. The alternative is to coach em up so we get the Zane Gonzalez that makes 31 of his 35 FG attempts in 2019 rather than cut him after 18 games. I was NOT excited Parkey is the solution.
  5. Do you know who else won the Lou Groza Award? Zane Gonzalez in 2016. The Browns cut him after 2 games in 2018, which means he only lasted 18 games (just 1 more than Seibert).
  6. If memory serves me right Parkey is also the guy that missed 2 or 3 placekicks for us against Miami in a game we lost in OT a few years ago. Having said that, he's put some really good seasons on the resume too in BC (Before Chicago). Then again, I said the same thing about Billy Cundiff having the good seasons too before that went Coyote Ugly on me.
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    2020 Browns Depth Chart

    I can almost hear the Frankie Valle edits: My eyes adore Aggies. Oh I never stop a follow-in, My eyes adore Aggies. Like a million miles away in Jersey you couldn't see how I'm a follow-in, So close and yet so far as Damion Ratley... God bless ya Mr MeAggie!
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    Protest Thread

    Post of the thread!
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    2020 Browns Depth Chart

    He was really fun to watch. Remember how many guys we got from the USFL that really helped us? Kevin Mack, Mike Johnson, Dan Fike, Frank Minnifield, Sam Clancy, Mark Harper, Gerald "Ice Cube" McNeil and Jeff Gossett. My football wood factor went from balsa to sequoia... Anyway, it sounds like we might have some excitement again in our return game - the GOOD kind.
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    Dutch's 2020 Browns Questions

    1. Browns record? 9-7 2. Bengals record? 7-9 3. Ravens record? 12-4 4. Steelers record? 11-5 5. How many points will the Browns score in '20? How many do they allow? 415 / 385 6. How many yards, touchdowns and interceptions does Baker Mayfield throw for? 4155 / 28 / 15 7. Who leads the Browns in receptions? How many receptions? Jarvis Landry / 72 8. Who leads the Browns in receptions yards? How many yards? Jarvis Landry / 1085 9. Who leads the Browns in reception touchdowns? How many TDs? Harrison Bryant / 8 10. How many rushing yards and rushing touchdowns does Nick Chubb have? 1364 / 10 11. How many TOTAL yards (rushing and receiving) and TOTAL TDs does Kareem Hunt have? 960 / 8 12. How many sacks does Myles Garrett have? 14.5 13. Browns record vs. AFC North? 3-3 14. What two teams play in the Super Bowl? Who wins? Tampa Bay beats Baltimore
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    Ravens Week

    Precisely! I sure hope they've been working on tackling; and open field tackling in particular. My coach used to say you can't tackle what you can't see when you go for those killshots with the head down. He also added, we left a lot of easy tackles on the field today because we weren't getting under control and squaring up to make the tackles. Lamar is a gigantic challenge but we've seen him have bad days when teams tackled and pressured him. They have to maintain good gap integrity upfront; and keep good eye discipline. The "do your job" within the schematic definitely applies. Someone else mentioned we have to sustain long drives on offense; and I'll add we need to punctuate those with TDs.
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    Kareem Hunt Contract Extension

    That's almost as creepy as Poe wanting Barkley to sit on his lap and talk about the first thing that pops up...
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    Pitt - Browns RBs

    Great subject - nice job! While I mostly only give a rat about Cleveland - I will always be a fan of the RUNNING GAME so here's a few piggybacks/honorable mentions: The backfield for the undefeated 72 Dolphins team may not have had 3 HOF backs (only Csonka); but they were tough for teams to match up with. Opponents that tried to congest the box, had to worry about HOF WR and speedster Paul Warfield over the top. A lot of people forget, they didn't have their starting QB for something like 9 of regular season games and part of the post season. They had an old man everyone thought was washed up (Earl Morral) when Shula brought him over from Baltimore to Miami. Rams had another very good RB (Lawrence McCutcheon) that made 5 consecutive Pro Bowls in 73, 74, 75, 76, and 77 back when they only played 14 regular season games. In 73, he actually averaged 5.2 yards a carry. 4 of those years he had over 1000 yards and the other was over 900 yards (which would have been over 1000 if they played 16 games) I'd probably include Freeman McNeil in comparison to other NY Jets RBs in that franchise history. He averaged 4.5 yards per carry, made 3 Pro Bowls and gained 8074 yards in a 12 year career which isn't spectacular (but like Greg Pruitt - he was spectacular enough to wonder what would have been if he did stay healthy). While his role got reduced his last 4 years - he averaged 4.6 yards per carry when he was 31 and 5.9 yards a carry when he was 32. He had some durability issues that caused him to miss a lot of games throughout the career and water down his overall rushing stats. Other thought: The HOF is a great achievement but I'm not a fan of some of their decisions/criteria. For example, Jerome Bettis had 7 different seasons in Pitt where he didn't even average of 4 yards per carry on a team that usually put about 2 of their OL in the Pro Bowl and sometimes as many as 3. His career ended at 3.9 yards per carry. He had a long career and he played for Pittsburgh so the HOF accepted good instead of elite IMO. If they're gonna tell us Clay Matthews isn't good enough for the HOF - then I'm going to say neither is Bettis. ALOT of RBs - even a non drafted Willie Parker ran well in their philosophy and system. People defend him with length of career, reliability, frequency of post season appearances. Okay, didn't Clay do all of the same things? During my lifetime as a fan (I'm 56 so let's start this question at about 1970) has Cleveland ever frequented the playoffs more than they did throughout the 80s when Clay started at several different LB positions in our 3-4 and 4-3? HOF OG Joe DeLamielleure was asked at a Browns Backers Banquet - who was the biggest challenge he had. Without hesitation he said "Clay Matthews is the toughest SOB I've ever faced. Trust me, I had to face him in practice all the time." Then he brought up the "Jack of all Trades" where he said Clay usually upgraded the LB spot he moved into for an injured starter. Sounds like he was saying Clay was the Master of all Trades pertaining to the LB position. IMO, that's criteria that should be counted not neglected. What was the reason, they waited all the way until Gene Hickerson was senile in a wheel chair wearing diapers? Then they went and let a punk like Terrell Owens in A LOT quicker. Me-O was an absolute brat that never stopped putting "I before team."
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    Pitt - Browns RBs

    Good stuff Gips! Greg Pruitt was still one of my faves to watch running the ball for us. The only guy since him to average better than 4.7 yards per carry is Nick Chubb. Like Pruitt, Chubb can score from anywhere on the field and get a lot of yards after contact. Unlike Pruitt, Chubb doesn't fumble during yards after contact time. Having said that, Pruitt was a better receiver out of the backfield. I like our RB tradition. IMO, this team is built to run the ball down the esophagus - which will open doors for the play-action pass game. I think both of our new starting tackles are better run blockers than the last 2 we had; where Chubb still averaged over 5 yards per carry. When he gets a breather, the opponent gets Kareem'd while they're still sucking gas. Not a bad 1-2 punch...
  15. That's a Berry nice move for this team! I like adding a 6'3" Safety that can tackle from the position group at Bama that Saban coached. Looks like others in this thread feel the same way. He brings 2 years of starting experience we need. And when we really think about it, any of the FA 1 year deals that don't get re-newed - are set-up to bring us comp picks in the later rounds anyway (so what are we really losing in the trade?).
  16. I've been critical of Njoku too; and his agent doesn't give me warm fuzzies in a final year of a contract in Cleveland ("don't get hurt there/now if you want big $ elsewhere next year!"). HOWEVER he played pretty well when Baker was a rookie with 56 receptions and 4 TDs. Let's hope we see that chemistry restored now that TE is heavily featured. I've always heard competition is supposed to bring out the best in people. Let's see what happens...
  17. Well said! And we have Duct Tape for everything else!
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    Browns Proposed Plan For Fan Attendance

    The way they're dropping like flies in Cleveland - these programs are going to be outdated on Sundays. One day we sign Weaver. 2 days later he's on IR so we can sign a 6'3" WR. Does anyone know if the NFL is going to allow teams to keep a bigger roster size and cap (understanding there's a pandemic that will be impacting this league once teams have to travel out of state)? The pro sports doing their post seasons in a bubble are working well mainly because they don't have to travel. Hard to do that for a regular season in sports that have to field at least 11 different starters on both side of the ball plus STs in a league of 32 teams. Nothing worse than hearing a football coach during endless wind sprints reminding you "IF YOU FAIL TO PREPARE - YOU SHOULD PREPARE TO FAIL" punctuated with "NOT ON MY WATCH!" As much as we hated hearing that at the time - it had a way of making game days a positive experience. When you have a plan - the shit doesn't hit the fan/fans!
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    Saving Logan Ryan

    I hear ya and Tretter! Cyber mini-camps with snooze button controls can't be great for rosters influx counting on a lot of young,inexperienced guys. When we first Andrew Berry back - I got a dejavue of my last case of food poisoning. HOWEVER, the version of him we got back was much improved in terms of how he set up 90% of the FA contracts to 1 year deals that give us those compensation picks if we lose any of them. For years, Pitt and Ratville have been fattening their drafts with comp picks. We finally have someone setting this up for us with experienced guys good for depth and teaching the younger players how to prepare and WATCH film for things to exploit and look out for for their respective positions. A long time ago, we signed Scot Fujita from New Orleans with all his best football in the rear view mirror. The BEST thing he did for us was help D'Qwell Jackson become better against the point of attack and with 1st step instinct in the FILM room.Jackson always made a ratload of tackles but he started to make them in places our defense could get off the field (as opposed to in pursuit 20 yards later all the time). Jackson brought that up to a reporter about where and how the veteran helped him. Anyway, the hope is some of the vets Berry signed can help the younger guys out and fill in. Sorry for the length here but I want to piggyback on to your last comment. In many sports the best defense is a great offense (ie; NC's 4 corner offense, Montreal Canadiens in the 70s, and the 72 Dolphins with an unstoppable running game via Larry Csonka, Mercury Morris and Jim Kiick). I understand the era is different; but this offense looks like it's biggest strength is the running game starting with the talent we have at RB. The 2 spots we needed to upgrade the most on the OL are LT and RT. One guy already has an All Pro season on his resume while the other is one of the best run blockers of his draft class (my 2nd favorite LT Prospect only because Andrew Thomas had the most experience playing LT). Last year, Chubb was the leading rusher in the conference up until the final week of the season so the upgraded bookends should only improve that. The only thing that could impact this is injury or Kareem Hunt's talent that is also worthy of a role. What does all of this set up? An ideal opportunity for play action passing, which has always been a key feature in Gary Kubiak's offense (that Stefanski utilized last year). Believe it or not, the NFL channel posted that despite Baker's struggles last year - he actually had ideal stats during play action. I don't know how accurately they assess that kind of thing but they made it a point to show it. Meatball on spaghetti, there's talent on the perimeter to tap in these situations. The pressure will be to score TDs instead of settling for FGs. I have no idea what we'll see from this defense that was already more than just 1 off season away from addressing all of the weaknesses and depth (prior to the volume of injuries we're seeing). Yes, all teams have injuries - but this defensive roster isn't built to handle the volume of them kicking us right between lookers)...
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    Jon Toth to join the Cleveland Browns

    🤣 If you sick bastards ever start getting along - I'm gonna send a bounty hunter after yuz...
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    Jon Toth to join the Cleveland Browns

    That was right before I strapped on my steel toe shit kickers; and beat the tar outta 17 dudes while I continued to play the saxophone for my hottie. That wudn't online either. I get their blood on my bell bottoms to prove it! And yes, I trained by chain smoking in 3 hour increments while freshening my breath with shots of JD. Only dumbbells use dumbbells! Those same 17 dudes would have played soccer on Joe Thomas' face! I AM Ghoolie and you wannabe...
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    Browns Proposed Plan For Fan Attendance

    Thatta boy Thurston Howell!
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    Saving Logan Ryan

    Well done! I like our depth at Corner when Terrence Mitchell is #3 (last year he came in vrs Pitt when Greedy struggled ALL game prior to getting injured; and got an INT in their territory right away). We need depth in the secondary. Logan Ryan can provide the flexibility to play Safety or Corner (if necessary) like Randall did the year before he became a drama queen. Our depth at LB is anorexic - so an experienced guy like Clay Matthews wouldn't suck. In just 13 games last year, he had 8 sacks, 3 passes defensed and 2 forced fumbles. Once upon a time, he was a Safety in high school which won't be a niche any time soon. The reason I bring that up is because his father was flexible enough to play 4 different LB positions in the 34 and 3 different LB positions in the 43. His INT of Jim Kelly at the goal line in the playoffs sealed the victory. This guy could be invaluable to us. Not saying he's his dad; but that experience at Safety once upon a time could make playing either OLB position very doable. Playing at a high level after 10 years in the NFL isn't exclusive to his dad, his Uncle Bruce also did so at a Hall of Fame level. We only need Clay for a year or so... Not for nothing, but once teams start hitting the road for road games - I think their risk for getting the Corona virus will increase so we better be deeper than current worry this area of the team is inviting...
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    Browns Sign a LB

    Last I knew, if I knew, Goodson was going to play inside.
  25. Ladies and gentlemen - boys and girls