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  1. Flugel

    The Gipper Rest in Peace

    Sad news - I'm stunned! I thought we'd have Gipper in here forever posting about the Browns. This was his home. Rest in Peace Gips!
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    Draft Grades

    Nice to see a Cleveland Browns FO getting this kind of respect especially for a draft that took place in Cleveland! https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2021-nfl-draft-grades-all-32-teams
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    Rounds 2 & 3

    Can you guess what Potty Mouth Shakespeare would have interrupted with "Oh yeah? I did that running backwards with a cigar in my mouth. Why don't you knuckleheads get back to endorsing dime a dozen linemen like Joe Thomas for round 1 again!"
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    Jeremiah was a Bullfrog

    The thing with judging LBs today is I tend to get distracted by the types I loved in the 70s, 80s and 90s. They say you can't teach and old dawg tricks but I majored in summer school. I still find myself looking for ideal heights, weights and BIG hit reputations; but the game and rules today are phasing that out some for the sure tacklers in open fields that can also strip the ball. If reading their keys and mastering coverages isn't enough of a challenge for young LBers; now add the athletic and speedy QBs of today taking off out of the pocket that countless defenders never seem to get a clean shot at (ie; Lamar Jackson, Russell Wilson, Kyler Murray, DeShaun Watson). JOK looks like he offers the goodies our Defense needs. And I've seem some highlights where he looks very capable of delivering the collisions on guys ending in smelling salt wake ups. Even better, he's not leading with his head - so he doesn't look like an unconscious Greg Lloyd that just got freight trained by Kevin Mack.
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    Jeremiah was a Bullfrog

    Interesting Mike! Lindy's Draft Guide rates him as the #1 OLB. Athlon's Draft Mag rates him as their #2 OLB; and that's only because they're projecting Micah Parson's as an OLB (with their #1 rating). In Athlon's Top 100 prospects, he's listed at #11 overall. Lindy's field media top 100 - he's #18 overall. Looking at those films and a lot of what I've read and heard from his biggest fan (Daniel Jeremiah) - his skills will be ideal for the NFL today. It's going to be a lot of fun listening to people trying to say his name. Just add alcohol... I think I'll stick with JOK. This pick feels like an epic steal.
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    First, Second or Third round DTs?

    Iowa State? That might be why he didn't look like he was at the weight Athlon and Lindy's had him at. Let's not get hung up on official weights in a year without Indy combines that giving us official numbers. I DO like seeing he was the Big 10 Defensive Player of the Year. If you want to argue he's something we shouldn't have any interest in at pick #26 or #59, that's fine. Thanks for weighing in...
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    First, Second or Third round DTs?

    Looks good! Here's some stuff I put in another thread that may be relevant. Here's the top 5 DT prospects from Athlon's Draft Guide : 1. Daviyon Nixon - Iowa - 6'2" 305 lbs Jr - (2020 stats) 13.5 TFL 5.5 sacks 1 QBH - Final Grade: 1st/2nd round 2. Christian Barmore - Alabama - 6'5" 310 lbs So - (2020 stats) 9.5 TFL 8 sacks 6 QBH - Final Grade: 1st/2nd round 3. Jaylen Twyman - Pittsburgh - 6'2" 295 lbs Jr - (2020 stats) 10.5 TFL 10.5 sacks 2 QBH - Final Grade: 1st/2nd round. 4. Jay Tufele - USC - 6'3" 310 lbs Jr - (2020 stats) 6.5 TFL 4.5 sacks 1 QBH - Final Grade: 1st/2nd round 5. Levi Onwuzurike - Washington - 6'3" 295 lbs Sr - (2020 stats) 6 TFL 2 sacks 0 QBH - Final Grade: 1st/2nd round Here's the top 5 DT prospects from Lindy's Draft Guide. 1. Daviyon Nixon - Iowa - 6'3" 305 lbs Jr - 40 time 4.95 - Big 10 Defensive Player of the Year. Listed as the Pass Rush Proto-type for the DT position stating: "Nixon fires off the snap like he's been shot out of a cannon, exhibiting rare flexibility to slither through gaps and close on the QB." Final Grade: 1st round 2. Christian Barmore - Alabama - 6'5" 310 lbs So - 40 time 4.94 - Listed as the DT Prototype for Run Defense stating "The broad-shouldered Barmore is built like a barn door and possesses the raw strength and length to corral ballcarriers." Final Grade: 1st round 3. Marvin Wilson - Florida State - 6'4" 305 lbs Sr - 40 time 4.95 - Extremely agile with tremendous strength and ability to fire off the snap. Uses cinder block hands to break the grips of would-be blockers. Knocked down 4 passes as a junior in just 9 games and blocked 3 kicks as a senior. Writer gives him a comparison to the Eagles Fletcher Cox which is high praise especially if that's accurate. - Final Grade: 2nd round. 4. Khyiris Tonga - BYU - 6'3" 340 lbs Sr - 40 time 5.25. Very powerful player that played NG. Shows great quickness for a guy his size and will face a lot of double teams in the trenches. Listed as the Prototype for Intangibles with the following endorsement: "Overshadowed by QB Zach Wison, Tonga was the Cougars' unquestioned star on defense and stayed true to his commitment to Head Coach Kilane Sitake, following him from Utah to rival BYU." Final Grade: 2nd round 5. Levi Onwuzurike - Washington - 6'3" 295 lbs Sr - 40 time 4.96. Listed as DT Prototype for Tackling with this description: "A sleeper of sorts in this class after opting out of of the 2020 season. He recorded an impressive 45 stops in 2019 , showing terrific quickness, balance and the long arms to lasso ballcarriers." - Final Grade: 2nd/3rd round It doesn't look like there's a Big Sexy that will attract upper/mid 1st round interest here; while the Browns don't pick until #26 overall... Looks to me like we can still add a DT and LB with our 1st 2 picks. My guess is LB in round 1 and DT in round 2.
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    Sheldon Richardson released

    Interesting perspective Looks like we all really appreciated what Richardson brought here. Last year at this time I wondered how our defense could handle the loss of Schobert in what looked to be a depleted LB Corps. Here's the top 5 DT prospects from Athlon's Draft Guide : 1. Daviyon Nixon - Iowa - 6'2" 305 lbs Jr - (2020 stats) 13.5 TFL 5.5 sacks 1 QBH - Final Grade: 1st/2nd round 2. Christian Barmore - Alabama - 6'5" 310 lbs So - (2020 stats) 9.5 TFL 8 sacks 6 QBH - Final Grade: 1st/2nd round 3. Jaylen Twyman - Pittsburgh - 6'2" 295 lbs Jr - (2020 stats) 10.5 TFL 10.5 sacks 2 QBH - Final Grade: 1st/2nd round. 4. Jay Tufele - USC - 6'3" 310 lbs Jr - (2020 stats) 6.5 TFL 4.5 sacks 1 QBH - Final Grade: 1st/2nd round 5. Levi Onwuzurike - Washington - 6'3" 295 lbs Sr - (2020 stats) 6 TFL 2 sacks 0 QBH - Final Grade: 1st/2nd round Here's the top 5 DT prospects from Lindy's Draft Guide. 1. Daviyon Nixon - Iowa - 6'3" 305 lbs Jr - 40 time 4.95 - Big 10 Defensive Player of the Year. Listed as the Pass Rush Proto-type for the DT position stating: "Nixon fires off the snap like he's been shot out of a cannon, exhibiting rare flexibility to slither through gaps and close on the QB." Final Grade: 1st round 2. Christian Barmore - Alabama - 6'5" 310 lbs So - 40 time 4.94 - Listed as the DT Prototype for Run Defense stating "The broad-shouldered Barmore is built like a barn door and possesses the raw strength and length to corral ballcarriers." Final Grade: 1st round 3. Marvin Wilson - Florida State - 6'4" 305 lbs Sr - 40 time 4.95 - Extremely agile with tremendous strength and ability to fire off the snap. Uses cinder block hands to break the grips of would-be blockers. Knocked down 4 passes as a junior in just 9 games and blocked 3 kicks as a senior. Writer gives him a comparison to the Eagles Fletcher Cox which is high praise especially if that's accurate. - Final Grade: 2nd round. 4. Khyiris Tonga - BYU - 6'3" 340 lbs Sr - 40 time 5.25. Very powerful player that played NG. Shows great quickness for a guy his size and will face a lot of double teams in the trenches. Listed as the Prototype for Intangibles with the following endorsement: "Overshadowed by QB Zach Wison, Tonga was the Cougars' unquestioned star on defense and stayed true to his commitment to Head Coach Kilane Sitake, following him from Utah to rival BYU." Final Grade: 2nd round 5. Levi Onwuzurike - Washington - 6'3" 295 lbs Sr - 40 time 4.96. Listed as DT Prototype for Tackling with this description: "A sleeper of sorts in this class after opting out of of the 2020 season. He recorded an impressive 45 stops in 2019 , showing terrific quickness, balance and the long arms to lasso ballcarriers." - Final Grade: 2nd/3rd round It doesn't look like there's a Big Sexy that will attract upper/mid 1st round interest here; while the Browns don't pick until #26 overall... Looks to me like we can still add a DT and LB with our 1st 2 picks...
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    I Don’t Care What Happens! What a Season!

    I hear ya! And, they picked a perfect cast for the movie!
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    I Don’t Care What Happens! What a Season!

    I did that last year with Dullasss; and ended up in a support group led by Nurse Ratched.
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    The official Terry Pluto thread

    Joining a program coming off 0-16 football that remained winless (0-1-1) and sporting a 14-0 deficit (only to erase it and lead Cleveland to it's first win) - was a sneak preview of what Baker is capable of. All he did the rest of his rookie year was throw an NFL record of 27 TD passes for a rookie QB to help a previous bottom feeder finish 7-8-1. That WOULD have been good enough for Rookie of the Year IF Saquan Barkley didn't play in the largest market for an award determined by a popular vote. Unfortunately, the soph slump invited critics concerning Baker's talent and questions about his maturity on a franchise with a fanbase well trained for the "Here we go again." However, an incredible job was done by the new FO last offseason with hiring the right HC and upgrading the personnel all over this team. This is EVERYTHING we've always wanted around a young QB. Year #3 still had lessons to be learned by Baker and some of them the hard way like WILL YOU PLEASE SECURE THE FREAKIN FOOTBALL? All young QBs have things to learn; while their staffs have things to learn about them. Big reasons why continuity of HC, OC and QB Coaches are a necessity. This post season features 3 different QBs in Baker's draft class. 2 of them, have had continuity in their coaching staffs guiding them. If anyone has looked at the job Buffalo has done with Josh Allen - he's thrown 37 TD passes to just 10 INTs. They tweaked some bad habits so that he could dominate NFL competition far better than he was ever able to at the college level with all that untapped arm talent. He's also dangerous on the scramble. Unfortunately, Lamar Jackson has a way of making the field look double-wide and the opposing defense like it's only using 8 defenders. Both of these teams have learned to utilize the blessings their young QBs bring and tweak what they need to. It's like they have a 2 year head start on Baker. That said, Baker and the Browns are still in the playoffs just like those 2 guys. 1 game at a time! This week we face a QB, that was drafted in 2017. Like Tom Brady, Mahomes didn't start in his rookie year. Unlike Tom Brady, he went to an offensive minded HC that developed Brett Favre in GB and Donovan McNabb in Philly. Andy Reid already heard the nonsense about QBs from unconventional offenses about Favre at So Miss before he drafted McNabb 2nd overall in 99 out of Syracuse. This was a great situation for Patrick Mahomes. He got to witness Alex Smith leading KC to the playoffs under Andy Reid's guidance. Above all, that was a playoff roster that welcomed his 1st start 1 year later. There was a little bit less to improve in KC's setting. That said, it's unbelievable how much he improved everything. Next thing we know the same fans that wanted Andy Reid gone in Philly were suddenly asking "WHY DID WE GIVE UP ON THAT FUCKING GUY?" Just add alcohol and you understand why Philly used to have jail cells and a court room in Veteran's Stadium. No matter what happens this weekend, I'm very proud of this team and the entire coaching staff for all they are accomplishing in spite of adversity from the onset. Dom gummit, we get to watch our team in ANOTHER playoff game this weekend. Every damn one of you DESERVES this!
  12. Exactly! Never apologize for 11 wins. Play calling isn't going to be pretty on a team coming off 6 wins when we're replacing Denzel Ward with a backup's backup and 2 LBers , etc. Last week we lost 7 starters and people we're griping that we didn't look like a playoff team. How can you when we had replacements that had to learn the playbook in the morning walkthrough the day of the game. QBs count on chemistry and there was none to be had last week. If we get close to getting our full team back next week - we could really surprise the favorite at home. All of a sudden, there's no pressure on the Browns and that's pretty freakin cool!
  13. Listen to me. You DESERVE to feel great today regardless of the bi-polarcoaster they put us on. Last year's team would have quit so many times this year when adversity struck. This team took it on and we should be proud of them for the outcome of 11 wins!
  14. I hear ya! I was just bragging I had a couple black hairs left on my dome. Not any more man!
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