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    The Offensive Line

    True about Cincy; but we also played without our starting Right Tackle vrs Cincy. Hubbard did a nice job filling in. Our starting Center and our LT were also questionable prior to playing through their injuries in the short week. Believe it or not, the yards per carry in week one were pretty good against the Rats for both Chubb and Hunt. Cleveland rushed for 138 yards, which doesn't suck. Having said that, we didn't run particularly well inside of our OGs in Ratville. In the passing game, the OL gave up 2 sacks; and one of those Baker held onto the ball way too long. IMO, the thing stopping drives was the huge inconsistency in our passing game. When Cleveland beat Baltimore last year, they got ahead of Baltimore and they got away from their game plan. Same thing that happened to Cleveland this year.
  2. Mike, I didn't draft the guy. I just want to make sure we're not giving up on him too early is all. This has to be a record for how much time I've wasted talking about a kicker. I'm all done with it. I hope we've improved the position 100%.
  3. Sometimes the rest of the story was already covered in the flow of discussion you didn't read. I already mentioned the missed extra points in the 1st post of page 2 of this thread. Here's a cut and paste: Seibert had a great year in 2019 making 25 of 29 FG attempts. The thing that puzzled me about him was as good as he was with the FGs - how does the same guy miss 5 extra point attempts? And then he began this year missing another. Again, how about the STs coach finding the flawed mechanic responsible for something that should be correctable in lieu of the knee jerk reaction?
  4. 😆 Fair enough! I only wanted a quick exhale from you. I'm still kind of baffled by it myself. I'm gonna speak fluent Calfox here and say the poor guy got Parkey-Parksies for Cody Parkey. That's like a RB getting cut today; and then the team that cut him signs Trent Richardson. Seibert had a great year in 2019 making 25 of 29 FG attempts. The thing that puzzled me about him was as good as he was with the FGs - how does the same guy miss 5 extra point attempts? And then he began this year missing another. Again, how about the STs coach finding the flawed mechanic responsible for something that should be correctable in lieu of the knee jerk reaction?
  5. If you calm down for a second - I was comparing 2 guys with a lot of promise we cut prematurely IMO. The alternative is to coach em up so we get the Zane Gonzalez that makes 31 of his 35 FG attempts in 2019 rather than cut him after 18 games. I was NOT excited Parkey is the solution.
  6. Do you know who else won the Lou Groza Award? Zane Gonzalez in 2016. The Browns cut him after 2 games in 2018, which means he only lasted 18 games (just 1 more than Seibert).
  7. If memory serves me right Parkey is also the guy that missed 2 or 3 placekicks for us against Miami in a game we lost in OT a few years ago. Having said that, he's put some really good seasons on the resume too in BC (Before Chicago). Then again, I said the same thing about Billy Cundiff having the good seasons too before that went Coyote Ugly on me.
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    2020 Browns Depth Chart

    I can almost hear the Frankie Valle edits: My eyes adore Aggies. Oh I never stop a follow-in, My eyes adore Aggies. Like a million miles away in Jersey you couldn't see how I'm a follow-in, So close and yet so far as Damion Ratley... God bless ya Mr MeAggie!
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    Protest Thread

    Post of the thread!
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    2020 Browns Depth Chart

    He was really fun to watch. Remember how many guys we got from the USFL that really helped us? Kevin Mack, Mike Johnson, Dan Fike, Frank Minnifield, Sam Clancy, Mark Harper, Gerald "Ice Cube" McNeil and Jeff Gossett. My football wood factor went from balsa to sequoia... Anyway, it sounds like we might have some excitement again in our return game - the GOOD kind.
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    Dutch's 2020 Browns Questions

    1. Browns record? 9-7 2. Bengals record? 7-9 3. Ravens record? 12-4 4. Steelers record? 11-5 5. How many points will the Browns score in '20? How many do they allow? 415 / 385 6. How many yards, touchdowns and interceptions does Baker Mayfield throw for? 4155 / 28 / 15 7. Who leads the Browns in receptions? How many receptions? Jarvis Landry / 72 8. Who leads the Browns in receptions yards? How many yards? Jarvis Landry / 1085 9. Who leads the Browns in reception touchdowns? How many TDs? Harrison Bryant / 8 10. How many rushing yards and rushing touchdowns does Nick Chubb have? 1364 / 10 11. How many TOTAL yards (rushing and receiving) and TOTAL TDs does Kareem Hunt have? 960 / 8 12. How many sacks does Myles Garrett have? 14.5 13. Browns record vs. AFC North? 3-3 14. What two teams play in the Super Bowl? Who wins? Tampa Bay beats Baltimore
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    Ravens Week

    Precisely! I sure hope they've been working on tackling; and open field tackling in particular. My coach used to say you can't tackle what you can't see when you go for those killshots with the head down. He also added, we left a lot of easy tackles on the field today because we weren't getting under control and squaring up to make the tackles. Lamar is a gigantic challenge but we've seen him have bad days when teams tackled and pressured him. They have to maintain good gap integrity upfront; and keep good eye discipline. The "do your job" within the schematic definitely applies. Someone else mentioned we have to sustain long drives on offense; and I'll add we need to punctuate those with TDs.
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    Kareem Hunt Contract Extension

    That's almost as creepy as Poe wanting Barkley to sit on his lap and talk about the first thing that pops up...
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    Pitt - Browns RBs

    Great subject - nice job! While I mostly only give a rat about Cleveland - I will always be a fan of the RUNNING GAME so here's a few piggybacks/honorable mentions: The backfield for the undefeated 72 Dolphins team may not have had 3 HOF backs (only Csonka); but they were tough for teams to match up with. Opponents that tried to congest the box, had to worry about HOF WR and speedster Paul Warfield over the top. A lot of people forget, they didn't have their starting QB for something like 9 of regular season games and part of the post season. They had an old man everyone thought was washed up (Earl Morral) when Shula brought him over from Baltimore to Miami. Rams had another very good RB (Lawrence McCutcheon) that made 5 consecutive Pro Bowls in 73, 74, 75, 76, and 77 back when they only played 14 regular season games. In 73, he actually averaged 5.2 yards a carry. 4 of those years he had over 1000 yards and the other was over 900 yards (which would have been over 1000 if they played 16 games) I'd probably include Freeman McNeil in comparison to other NY Jets RBs in that franchise history. He averaged 4.5 yards per carry, made 3 Pro Bowls and gained 8074 yards in a 12 year career which isn't spectacular (but like Greg Pruitt - he was spectacular enough to wonder what would have been if he did stay healthy). While his role got reduced his last 4 years - he averaged 4.6 yards per carry when he was 31 and 5.9 yards a carry when he was 32. He had some durability issues that caused him to miss a lot of games throughout the career and water down his overall rushing stats. Other thought: The HOF is a great achievement but I'm not a fan of some of their decisions/criteria. For example, Jerome Bettis had 7 different seasons in Pitt where he didn't even average of 4 yards per carry on a team that usually put about 2 of their OL in the Pro Bowl and sometimes as many as 3. His career ended at 3.9 yards per carry. He had a long career and he played for Pittsburgh so the HOF accepted good instead of elite IMO. If they're gonna tell us Clay Matthews isn't good enough for the HOF - then I'm going to say neither is Bettis. ALOT of RBs - even a non drafted Willie Parker ran well in their philosophy and system. People defend him with length of career, reliability, frequency of post season appearances. Okay, didn't Clay do all of the same things? During my lifetime as a fan (I'm 56 so let's start this question at about 1970) has Cleveland ever frequented the playoffs more than they did throughout the 80s when Clay started at several different LB positions in our 3-4 and 4-3? HOF OG Joe DeLamielleure was asked at a Browns Backers Banquet - who was the biggest challenge he had. Without hesitation he said "Clay Matthews is the toughest SOB I've ever faced. Trust me, I had to face him in practice all the time." Then he brought up the "Jack of all Trades" where he said Clay usually upgraded the LB spot he moved into for an injured starter. Sounds like he was saying Clay was the Master of all Trades pertaining to the LB position. IMO, that's criteria that should be counted not neglected. What was the reason, they waited all the way until Gene Hickerson was senile in a wheel chair wearing diapers? Then they went and let a punk like Terrell Owens in A LOT quicker. Me-O was an absolute brat that never stopped putting "I before team."
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    Pitt - Browns RBs

    Good stuff Gips! Greg Pruitt was still one of my faves to watch running the ball for us. The only guy since him to average better than 4.7 yards per carry is Nick Chubb. Like Pruitt, Chubb can score from anywhere on the field and get a lot of yards after contact. Unlike Pruitt, Chubb doesn't fumble during yards after contact time. Having said that, Pruitt was a better receiver out of the backfield. I like our RB tradition. IMO, this team is built to run the ball down the esophagus - which will open doors for the play-action pass game. I think both of our new starting tackles are better run blockers than the last 2 we had; where Chubb still averaged over 5 yards per carry. When he gets a breather, the opponent gets Kareem'd while they're still sucking gas. Not a bad 1-2 punch...
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