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  1. Flugel

    is TE our weakest

    I'm waiting to see what our new DC prefers to do with the personnel. I've always agreed with your perspective above. In the past, 1 gap schemes aimed at penetration up front haven't always been favorable for our LBers especially against the run. While Marty had a lot of critics for his asss pucker post season offense/prevent-a-win pass defense - his regular season defense was sound against the run. In fact, it was #1 against the run in 86 which was our only season in the last 5 decades that we won as many as 12 regular season games. The biggest thing that defense lacked was a Derrick Thomas nobody could block off the edge even though Chip Banks was drafted to perpetuate that kind of impact. That said, Reggie Camp/Sam Clancy and the 34 year old Carl Hairston (9 sacks) were very efficient at maintaining outside leverage on the containment funneling everything inside. Bob Golic wasn't a BIG dude by any means; but man did our 2 ILBs play some really good football from his consistent 2 gap integrity. Here comes a temporary exception to the rule or 2. When Bud Carson came here with his up-field 1 gap scheme, the 37 year old Carl Hairston kicked inside and gave us 6.5 sacks, MD Perry gave us 7 sacks, Al Bubba Baker gave us 7.5 sacks at LDE while Robert Banks added 4 sacks. MLB Mike Johnson made the Pro Bowl as did OLB Clay Matthews meaning 2 of our 3 LBers were efficient enough for acknowledgement. Our defense was ranked 4th out of 28 teams at points allowed at 15.9 points per game. 1 year later the ship capsized and sunk. The defense ended up ranked 28th out of 28 teams at points given up. Bud Carson was fired with a 2-7 record; while the permanent look on Jim Shofner's face after the 911 operator asked him to hold said "No habla." The other example I can think of was D'Qwell Jackson playing his best/most instinctive football in terms of making most of his tackles at the line of scrimmage in lieu of 20 yards down field more of the time. In fact, he only averaged 2.5 tackles for loss prior to moving into MLB in 2011 when he enjoyed 12 TFL. Defense ended up ranked 5th out of 32 teams in points allowed with just 19.2 per game. The thing that used to drive me nuckin futs was watching us try to copy teams that were running a 3-4 Defense without anywhere near their personnel to pull it off the same. Some would say "well, it takes time and growing pains." While true, asking a fan base to repeat their patience with square pegging round holes via scheme all the time made little sense when the newbies in charge were just going to get fired. Too many bad dejavues for comfort. There's talent in this defense even somewhat at LBer if we can just keep Kirskey and Schobert healthy. Schobert wasn't a Pro Bowl alternate because he sucked. For the last 2 years, we've worked around injuries to at least 2 of the 3 LBers starting for significant portions of the season. You can vary 1 gap and 2 gap schemes up front. I've seen defenses do this where they slant the line to a wide side or to an offensive formation strength via 1 gap penetrations while they scraped the LBers the other way. You can also mix in an inside or outside X stunt where the LBer blitzes 1 gap and the dlinemen seals the other. It's not that tough to vary stuff up front. Know your chess pieces and treat us to the sic em, sock em and sack em we deserve!
  2. Wow! Thanks for sharing that Orion. Per articles I read and 1 feature story I saw about Carter, I was always only led to believe Ryan cut him for a cocaine problem in spite of the comment "All he does is catch TD passes." I didn't realize it had way more to do with him not willing to run routes when he wasn't the primary receiver. However, it does make sense when I look at Ryan's choice of words. Not only that, Carter wasn't a really likable kid when he showed up to the NFL with a feeling of entitlement in a sense of WTF did Buddy owe him at that time? A big reason I chose Carter (in his career after Philly) for work ethic was when I read about him getting Randy Moss to work out with him leading up to one of the most insane WR rookie seasons ever. Moss said those workouts were brutal but they paved the way for 17 TD receptions in just 11 starts as an NFL rookie. Carter said he wanted to show him how to be a professional from the get-go. Then again, if there was 1 complaint about Moss it would be what he did when he wasn't the primary WR. Maybe a lot of the Hall of Fame voters saw what your friend and you saw via their reluctance to vote Carter into the NFL Hall of Fame right away. Long story short with special thanks to my editor Orion, let's just apply my previous statement of "if you work hard and adjust/finish precise routes - your QB will throw to you whether you're covered or not" to Jarvis Landry.
  3. Me either. That said, I think Landry brings an important leadership intangible for the younger guys that doesn't get measured in stats, speed, etc. I mean this in a sense of work ethic as well as seeing him throw blocks or staying with blocks that other WRs don't do. We can definitely use that for at least 1 more season of this IMO. We've seen he doesn't have the jets to blaze by DBs any more than Cris Carter had them. He's just not as tall as Carter to be that same red zone TD threat (while Carter also had talented WRs like Jake Reed and Randy Moss in the same formation). What do guys like Landy and Carter show younger WRs? If you consistently work hard and adjust/finish precise routes - your QB will still throw to you whether you're covered or not. These types of veterans are invaluable. Even if just a coincidence, we had young WRs that improved their games last year like Callaway and Perriman. Understanding we haven't won more than 8 games since Joe Thomas' rookie season of 2007, I'm not in any hurry to get to 2020 with the roster and potential we're looking at in 2019...
  4. Flugel

    Player v. Player

    Rumor has it, the husband of Duke's agent has been hitting the cyberspace message boards hard lately. I wonder how many times Duke tapped that guy's naughty wife while blowing off the voluntary mini camps for Frisky Business...
  5. Flugel

    Player v. Player

    First, Terry Glenn was the UPI and SI Rookie of the Year in 96 so I'm sure he appreciated the kick in the pants after it was all said and done. When Parcells became the Head Coach of the Cowboys in 2003, guess who told his agent he wanted to go play there? Terry Glenn. In fact, both guys closed their careers in Dallas. Parcells was there 2003-2006 and Glenn was there 2003-2007. Does that happen without mutual respect earned? Football is the entertainment industry as they like to say especially when they want to get paid. Duke got paid and the guy that gave him the raise said he's not trading him yet. This ant hill doesn't have to be the mountain you want it to be for some reason. Now that we have a FO guy upgrading talent all over this roster - is this really all you want to dwell on?
  6. Flugel

    Player v. Player

    So, now that you've finally educated yourself on the difference between a feature back and a 3rd down back - you know the difference between a #1 and #2 RB on the depth chart. Better player deserves more reps. We're not changing football here. Hunt will eventually threaten the feature back's reps since he was talented enough to be the AFC Offensive Rookie of the Year as a feature back (but missing 8 games could/should push that back to 2020). If Duke's role does diminish - then you agree with me that there is a #1, #2, and #3 RB based on who can help us most with their overall talent. The guy with the most limitations will be #3. Looking at your last comment - you and Duke agree that guy will be Duke. Again, is Dorsey here to deliver us a sorority house catering to whose got hurt feelings or a playoff team?
  7. Flugel

    Player v. Player

    No, when Chubb got promoted - Dorsey looked at the numbers favoring Duke over Hyde; and he kept Duke as our #2 RB and traded Hyde. Hyde only contributed 3.3 ypc while Chubb gave us 5.2 ypc and Duke provided 5 ypc. Again, I see that as Dorsey showing Duke in the same season he gave him a raise/contract extension "I believe in you." The raise plus the decision to keep Duke over Hyde are 2 different examples of showing Duke he believes in him. When the Chargers used a 1st overall pick on a QB despite already having Drew Brees - Brees didn't throw a temper tantrum demanding a trade. He showed up for camp while Philip Rivers held out for the length of training camp. Brees responded by leading his team to an AFC best 12 wins and making his 1st Pro Bowl - not bad considering SD sucked bad enough the year before to be holding the 1st overall pick. Duke has a similar situation in the sense his major competition for the #2 RB spot can't play the first 8 games. Duke can either continue complaining - or giddy-up and get after it. Duke is the only guy on the Browns I see complaining.
  8. Flugel

    Player v. Player

    I don't want this to come off as insulting because I enjoy the majority of your posts. Even when I don't agree with you - you make enough points to the extent I understand where you are coming from. In this case, I feel like you're choosing part of the picture over the bigger picture so hear me out. Do we really want Dorsey running a Sorority House more concerned about whose feelings are hurt today? Or, do we want him continuing to upgrade talent on the roster so we can finally talk playoff football for a refreshing change? This involves guys proving they deserve their contracts within the challenge at hand. Haven't we seen enough of where nice guys finish yet? Dorsey is here trying to put that 1-31 football (that deserved complaints) far behind us as soon as possible. Feelings are going to get hurt; especially if someone that's being paid well for his limited role is being challenged to perform well enough to stay/help us improve. Dorsey can answer the media any way he wants; especially if it's about a guy he just gave a raise/contract extension to as recently as 2018. When Chubb emerged as our feature back (over Carlos Hyde that was ranked in the top 100 players the season before); Dorsey traded Carlos Hyde not Duke. That's 2 different examples of Dorsey showing Duke he believes in him while you're making yourself more concerned about his "not yet" comment. Most players know the average length of NFL careers so they're wired not to question the "not yet" that begins the day they sign their 1st NFL contract. If you perform well - your career lives on. Duke is getting 8 games to prove why Dorsey believed in him. I'd be more nervous that his actions show he feels threatened he can't handle it in lieu of a "I'll leave Dorsey no other choice but me" mentality. Is it possible Duke also understands nobody wanted to give up anything on their roster to trade for him during the draft when they can just draft someone of equitable talent for a rookie contract? The lad needs to dictate his worth to this team when he gets his opportunities this year. For example, when Nick Chubb got 3 carries for over 100 yards where only the goal line stopped 2 of them - guess who earned more playing time? I think we all know that the media DOES have to ask or their version of "not yet" changes to replaced by someone that does ask.
  9. Flugel

    Player v. Player

    Precisely! He paid Duke extremely well considering he was just a part time RB on a team that just went 1-31 prior to the extension. As the RB position is getting stronger - Duke's workload is getting challenged by a stronger competition. Baker isn't the guy putting "I before team." He's the one saying step onto the train your teammates are on - not in front of it. When Baker showed up here as a 1st overall pick/talent - he was told he wouldn't play right away (if at all as a rookie). He didn't have a public tantrum about it. He shut his mouth and went to work. When he got the chance to play - guess what he did? He PROVED he deserved to start. He performed well enough for his teammates to view him as a credible leader. IMO, Duke was a decent RB on a bad team. Now that we have a much improved team - decent doesn't cut it any more at least in terms of how reps are divided up. For example, Carlos Hyde was voted by his peers as 1 of the top 100 football players in the NFL prior to coming here. When Nick Chubb also got the chance to play - he had 3 carries for over 100 yards against the Raiders where the only thing stopping 2 of those was the goal line. The 5.2 yards per carry he was achieving left nobody (including Hyde) questioning his promotion to our work horse RB. Hyde got traded and Duke remained decent; but not the to extent I understand his feeling of entitlement today. We've always had RBs that can catch the ball well on 3rd downs whether it was Calvin Hill in his mid 30s, Greg Pruitt spelling Mike Pruitt late in his career, or the undrafted Herman Fontenot in 86.
  10. Appreciate hearing that Aggies. Your son has a great outlook that will serve him well. Kids will play hard for him especially if they can see the rewards for their efforts. And that's when it not only gets fun; but it opens them up to coaching (ie; he's not stronger than you - your pad height was just too high). I'll share one of my favorite memories when I was a Head Freshman Football Coach. I had this kid that showed up a couple days late due to a delay in the physical. He had a wirey build and never played organized football before. Even worse, all that bottled up energy had to wait (before he could practice in pads and engage in contact with teammates) so we had quite the talkologist on our hands Almost immediately, he started talking and chirping with the "I'm gonna" stuff while he was watching the contact drills. He called himself "Killerhurts." I quietly LOVED the confidence, enthusiasm and competitive fire while I hoped it wasn't just an insecurity mask of another reality. One of the Assistant Coaches said "I'll be surprised if he lasts 1 week; but I really hope I'm wrong cuz the kid is hilarious to have around!" 2 days later Larry Killerhurts joined his teammates; and at the end of practice there wasn't 1 kid or coach that doubted him. In the process, he stopped letting his mouth do all the talking since his pads said all they had to. For being one of the only kids without organized football experience, he looked like the most seasoned kid out there - give or take a fundamental or 2 (ie; ball security) that can be solved with practice reps/drills. We already some great foot speed on the team; but nobody had this kid's jets. He had some vicious hits. Needless to say he was a LBer and FB. When it was time to vote for team captains, the QB was nominated and a couple other kids. I asked we only have a few nominated to vote on - anyone else? Here came Larry with "How bout myself?" Guess who got the most votes? That level of high school football had restrictions on how far you could send someone in motion prior to the snap (motion man couldn't pass the Tackle). Anyway, one of my favorite plays I ran out of a straight T was Thunder motion quick pitch right/left to our FB. I took the backside RB and put him in motion so he could join the play-side RB lead blocking for Larry. We had a lot of success with that play. Larry would comeback to the sideline all excited after scoring a TD - "Coach, I got loose!" After one of our games, Larry's foster care father came up to me and introduced himself. Then he said "this is the happiest we've ever seen Larry. He actually feels like he is an important part of something good. He's had a hard life where his biological parents were shot dead on their front porch right in front of Larry. The only positive thing beside him not getting shot was he was young enough to be in diapers in terms of how much he remembered. All he talks about is football and how much fun the coaches make it." I had no idea what he had ever been through or that he was even in foster care. Just to be a part of one the few bright spots in this kid's life meant the world to me. Aggies, THIS is the type of stuff I cherished most about coaching. I also loved showing kids if they challenged themselves to perfect the doables we ask of them daily - there is a reward on game day for doing so. Rinse and repeat that and you gain a love for the game that leaves you wanting more. Looking back, I feel really fortunate I had coaches that did that for me with all different styles. It was great to be able to do the same for others when I got the opportunity.
  11. Flugel

    Who is your choice?

    Is there any other QB that competed in the Championship Game every year they played (in this case all 10 years)? I think some people look at comp % and assume the Browns carried a Trent Dilfer to all 10 Championship Games. With all the praise and overrating Joe Namath got for his ONLY Championship - multiply that by 10 appearances/7 Titles and remind me why NFL history needs to pedestal his greatness more than Otto's? Graham and his coach was the birth place of the WCO the Joe Montanas, Steve Youngs, Brett Favres, and Patrick Mahomes would later try to emulate and advance. That said, after Montana - how many of those QBs won more than 1 SB despite all those stats? Before we had airports all over the country/world and an air force that could win us wars - wasn't Kitty Hawk pretty important? Putting this in perspective, as great as Jim Brown was - Cleveland only won 1 Championship because of him. I also think it was way more than a coincidence, the frequency of participation in Championship Games for the Browns decreased dramatically when Otto's 10 year career ended. When we do this kind of comparison, you have to take into consideration rules weren't being changed to promote more passing and protection of passers. Today, I think of Brady and BB like I think of Otto and Paul Brown. Coincidentally, Brady grew up a 49ers fan watching Bill Walsh orchestrate Paul Brown's offensive concepts through Joe Montana.
  12. Glad to hear that Aggies! Pretty amazing how the guy refuses to cave in to his physical handicaps every single day. The video doesn't show that he takes a bus and works a full day as a CSR with that handicap prior and then he has a 1 hour bus ride to coach the kids after it. The SC Featured story on ESPN includes that part. Above all, he's a really gifted coach the kids play really hard for.
  13. Flugel

    Right Guard - it’s not just deodorant

    While true Aggies, is there any other way to find a Jerry Rice (Mississippi Valley State), Larry Allen (Sonoma State), Leon Lett (Emporia State) , or Ali Marpet (Hobart) dominating competition enough for intrigue? Isn't it also conceivable guys on DI powerhouse teams can get overrated like Trent Richardson, Dee Milliner, Chance Warmack, Vernon Gholston, Big Daddy Wilkinson, etc... So what else should we look at regarding Forbes? Size, strength, and the metrics assessing quickness, agility, explosion etc. He ranked with elite in many of these except for wing span (which places him more at the position I think he can help us most at). I like where we landed him in a round that says let's develop the lad. That said, he might not require as much patience as we may think. A lot of his things that need tweaking are very doable IMO.
  14. Flugel

    Right Guard - it’s not just deodorant

    Some good points Tour. Thanks! He does have a tendency to spring up too quickly into a higher pad height. Speaking of wasted steps. What I could work with is he doesn't belly back when he pulls or traps. By staying tight to the line of scrimmage it reduces the steps and works well with his quick feet at getting there in time to be efficient. I saw quite a few examples of that in the film. What I don't like about pulling/trapping Guards and Tackles together is if the Tackle is quicker than the Guard, it either slows up the Tackle or he trips over the Guard (which I could see happening in programs with less scholarships). That makes life incredibly easy for the defenders that originally lined up across from them to swoop in behind them and stop the play for a loss. The hardest thing for newbies to it all is they don't always trust the linemen next to them are firing out so the tendency is to angle the first steps backward rather than than laterally. "Coach what if someone gets jacked up backwards?" Then you're not bei A lot college Tackles have far less training at trapping and pulling than many of the Guards so it isn't uncommon to see some things that might need to be coached up. The good news is that hop can be solved and improved in stances and starts. That's where I learned how to do it as a teen back in the day. If I can learn it - anybody can. In fact, when I coached at the high school level in an offense that always had the guards on the move trapping and pulling - I don't remember too much difficulty with them picking it up. Teams knew we did a lot of that so it was our job to make sure we didn't have anyone in their stance leaning to tip off the play. Part of that process, is having the right kids for the position. The other part is teaching something to them that is very doable with practice and repetition. All that said, Cleveland has had problems in the past with how quickly some college Tackles have picked up the art of tapping and pulling. The 1 guy that comes to mind was the late round small school pick with red hair and freckles that overcame a heart defect (whose name escapes me). Anyway, injuries threw him in at LG next to Joe Thomas before he was ready. I remembered seeing him belly back away from the line of scrimmage to the extent he collided with the playaction (fake handoff setting up the misdirection trap) and he smothered the whole thing in our backfield. That's not the way you want to learn how to do it. If you're going to change a guy from Tackle to Guard in an offense that likes mis-direction traps or leading sweeps/bootlegs with a Guard - you better spend significant time on stances and starts at the beginning of the year or you've flushed the entire opportunity down the toilet IMO. Also, when you change a guy's position mid-season - he may not have all that down yet. Then you gotta be patient with growing pains like I mentioned about the small school feller - while Cleveland was a place running out of patience at the time he turned a trap play into a football follie. For whatever all that's worth, I think most of Forbes' issues are coachable.
  15. Folks I caught this compelling 15 minute story about the will of a man overcoming adversity; and how it inspired kids as their Head Football Coach on Sports Center Featured. I thought this might be worth sharing so I hope you enjoy it!
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