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    Updating the Depth Chart

    I like PFF too; but it doesn't always cater to unique alignments/schemes. Let's see what our LBers look like when we're not lining 1 of our starting Safeties up in Toronto every play. Last year someone was trying to tell me Schobert was dreadful in coverage. I asked him if he had any idea how easy it is to cover both hook zones with a much deeper zone transition than other MLBs have (due to where the Safety behind is lined up) all during Schobert's 1st year playing MLB. Our other LBs had the flats and extended grey areas/zone transitions as well. As a unit, they probably felt like a hockey team defending a power play man-down all game. There's a lot of reasons we'll have brand new starters at FS, SS, RCB, and LCB but our LB Corps isn't 1 of them. Once Gregg Williams feels like he has the sufficient upgrades at Corner on the field, I think you'll see our LBers feeling far less taxed in coverage or feeling compelled to cheat back on perceived passing downs in particular. There was a lot of robbing Peter to pay Paul last year ending with Paul going on Food Stamps.
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    Former Brown Winslow arrested for burglary

    Did Donald Trump hack Ghoolie's account or vice versa? The predictability factor is parked on WTF. Poor Clark Kent has to be all bummed out learning that all he ever really needed was 2 tiny hands and a Twitter account on steroids...
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    WR position

    Well said Jigs. Like Baker Mayfield is learning, routes are a lot more contested at the NFL level than the Big 12 so the learning curve you spoke of takes time. My 2 biggest concerns with Coleman are - can the bad habit of body catching be corrected or is it now instinctive to the extent of beyond repair? Greg Little was a body catcher; which made him look like Danny Ferry trying to catch a ball in traffic as opposed to Antonio Brown or others with better habits perfected. And, can a pass dropper be cured any easier than a QB that isn't accurate? The inventory doesn't look good but we haven't exactly had Tom Brady chucking strikes and throwing people open here. As you said, the drop against Pittsburgh came at the worst time so it's all people are going to remember him by. Having said that, I posted a 2017 chart below of all those that led the league in dropped passes. If the chart loses form, to your point - it shows Coleman only had 3 other drops beside the 1 our fans will never forget. Unfortunately, he has the 2nd lowest drop per target% which can be skewed to his volume and the type of passing we couldn't wait to replace. If Gordon and Landry ease his matchups to the opponents' 3rd best corner every week; while a more experienced/accurate QB leads him to more YAC than YUCK - maybe he'll remind us of some of the things that once earned him a Biletnikoff Award. RECEIVING GP Rec Yds Avg Yds/G YAC TD Lng Big 100+ Tgt Drop Pct Fum FumL 1st Pct 1 Lee, Marqise JAX 14 56 702 12.5 50.1 283 3 45 3 0 96 8 58.3% 1 0 40 71.4% 2 Thomas, Demaryius DEN 16 83 949 11.4 59.3 295 5 40 5 1 140 7 59.3% 1 1 53 63.9% 2 Graham, Jimmy SEA 16 57 520 9.1 32.5 204 10 33 4 0 96 7 59.4% 0 0 32 56.1% 2 Jones, Julio ATL 16 88 1444 16.4 90.3 504 3 53 15 4 148 7 59.5% 0 0 67 76.1% 5 Bryant, Dez DAL 16 69 838 12.1 52.4 281 6 50 6 0 132 6 52.3% 1 1 44 63.8% 5 Sanu, Mohamed ATL 15 67 703 10.5 46.9 245 5 25 1 0 96 6 69.8% 0 0 41 61.2% 5 Richardson, Paul SEA 16 44 703 16.0 43.9 127 6 61 8 1 80 6 55.0% 0 0 33 75.0% 5 Hyde, Carlos SF 16 59 350 5.9 21.9 351 0 18 0 0 88 6 67.0% 0 0 17 28.8% 9 Cook, Jared OAK 16 54 688 12.7 43.0 230 2 35 6 2 86 5 62.8% 1 1 35 64.8% 9 Crabtree, Michael OAK 14 58 618 10.7 44.1 179 8 41 5 0 101 5 57.4% 1 0 35 60.3% 9 Clay, Charles BUF 13 49 558 11.4 42.9 263 2 44 5 1 74 5 66.2% 1 0 29 59.2% 9 Kelce, Travis KC 15 83 1038 12.5 69.2 439 8 44 9 4 122 5 68.0% 0 0 55 66.3% 9 Thielen, Adam MIN 16 91 1276 14.0 79.8 439 4 65 11 4 142 5 64.1% 3 2 59 64.8% 9 Adams, Davante GB 14 74 885 12.0 63.2 349 10 55 7 1 117 5 63.2% 0 0 45 60.8% 9 Cooper, Amari OAK 14 48 680 14.2 48.6 305 7 87 6 2 96 5 50.0% 1 0 28 58.3% 9 Gordon, Melvin LAC 16 58 476 8.2 29.8 503 4 49 2 0 83 5 69.9% 0 0 22 37.9% 9 Louis, Ricardo CLE 16 27 357 13.2 22.3 90 0 37 4 0 61 5 44.3% 0 0 18 66.7% 9 Howard, Jordan CHI 16 23 125 5.4 7.8 158 0 12 0 0 32 5 71.9% 0 0 4 17.4% 9 Engram, Evan NYG 15 64 722 11.3 48.1 288 6 35 7 0 115 5 55.7% 0 0 37 57.8% 9 Kupp, Cooper LAR 15 62 869 14.0 57.9 367 5 64 6 2 94 5 66.0% 1 1 42 67.7% 9 Kittle, George SF 15 43 515 12.0 34.3 281 2 44 4 1 63 5 68.3% 0 0 22 51.2% 9 Breida, Matt SF 16 21 180 8.6 11.3 167 1 32 1 0 36 5 58.3% 0 0 9 42.9% 23 Lewis, Marcedes JAX 16 24 318 13.3 19.9 156 5 37 2 0 48 4 50.0% 0 0 18 75.0% 23 Peterson, Adrian ARZ 10 11 70 6.4 7.0 58 0 13 0 0 19 4 57.9% 0 0 3 27.3% 23 Stewart, Jonathan CAR 15 8 52 6.5 3.5 69 1 21 0 0 15 4 53.3% 0 0 2 25.0% 23 Amendola, Danny NE 15 61 659 10.8 43.9 206 2 27 4 1 86 4 70.9% 1 0 40 65.6% 23 McCoy, LeSean BUF 16 59 448 7.6 28.0 424 2 39 1 0 77 4 76.6% 0 0 23 39.0% 23 Green, A.J. CIN 16 75 1078 14.4 67.4 282 8 77 6 3 142 4 52.8% 2 2 55 73.3% 23 Smith, Torrey PHI 16 36 430 11.9 26.9 133 2 59 3 1 68 4 52.9% 0 0 11 30.6% 23 Kearse, Jermaine NYJ 16 65 810 12.5 50.6 303 5 51 6 2 102 4 63.7% 1 0 37 56.9% 23 Martin, Doug TB 11 9 84 9.3 7.6 64 0 17 0 0 18 4 50.0% 0 0 6 66.7% 23 Goodwin, Marquise SF 16 56 962 17.2 60.1 209 2 83 7 3 105 4 53.3% 0 0 46 82.1% 23 Bernard, Giovani CIN 16 43 389 9.1 24.3 436 2 61 3 0 60 4 71.7% 0 0 16 37.2% 23 Doyle, Jack IND 15 80 690 8.6 46.0 355 4 26 1 1 108 4 74.1% 2 2 34 42.5% 23 Ellington, Andre HOU 12 39 369 9.5 30.8 273 0 29 1 0 59 4 66.1% 0 0 16 41.0% 23 Bell, Le'Veon PIT 15 85 655 7.7 43.7 688 2 42 3 1 106 4 80.2% 1 0 31 36.5% 23 Hopkins, DeAndre HOU 15 96 1378 14.4 91.9 297 13 72 17 5 174 4 55.2% 1 1 69 71.9% 23 Beckham Jr., Odell NYG 4 25 302 12.1 75.5 60 3 48 2 0 41 4 61.0% 0 0 15 60.0% 23 Cooks, Brandin NE 16 65 1082 16.7 67.6 243 7 64 15 2 114 4 57.0% 0 0 42 64.6% 23 Freeman, Devonta ATL 14 36 317 8.8 22.6 256 1 29 2 0 47 4 76.6% 0 0 18 50.0% 23 Bryant, Martavis PIT 15 50 603 12.1 40.2 182 3 51 4 0 84 4 59.5% 0 0 30 60.0% 23 Wilson, Albert KC 13 42 554 13.2 42.6 323 3 63 3 1 62 4 67.7% 0 0 32 76.2% 23 Perriman, Breshad BAL 11 10 77 7.7 7.0 9 0 14 0 0 35 4 28.6% 0 0 3 30.0% 23 Kroft, Tyler CIN 16 42 404 9.6 25.3 160 7 59 1 0 62 4 67.7% 0 0 23 54.8% 23 Crowder, Jamison WSH 15 66 789 12.0 52.6 363 3 41 9 2 103 4 64.1% 1 0 37 56.1% 23 Coleman, Corey CLE 9 23 305 13.3 33.9 29 2 44 1 0 58 4 39.7% 0 0 17 73.9% 23 Shepard, Sterling NYG 11 59 731 12.4 66.5 316 2 77 5 3 84 4 70.2% 1 0 36 61.0% 48 Davis, Vernon WSH 16 43 648 15.1 40.5 307 3 69 8 0 69 3 62.3% 2 2 23 53.5% 48 Walker, Delanie TEN 16 74 807 10.9 50.4 249 3 42 3 0 111 3 66.7% 2 2 43 58.1% 48 Lynch, Marshawn OAK 15 20 151 7.6 10.1 168 0 25 1 0 31 3 64.5% 0 0 6 30.0%
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    Former Brown Winslow arrested for burglary

    That was a classic! Remember what this conversation led to?
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    Greg Little

    Poor guy was a serial drive killer.
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    Dwight Clark passes away, 61

    You got to watch that movie T? The Warden told me it's only appropriate for children over 55 years of age. You bastard - I've got 3 cups of coffee in me and I gotta wait 9 months to bust your balls back...
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    Former Brown Winslow arrested for burglary

    Was that before or after he drafted the invisible work ethic of Gerrard Warren over LaDanian Tomlinson at #3 overall? It is VERY sad to see this; but dangerous/aggressive animals belong in cages. There is no defending multiple rape allegations like Stink always does for Ben Riden&Rapen. He had a lot in common with Winslow from the motor cycle riding gone wrong to the female victim count hitting the plural. Rooney had to cover that up and get it all quieted at warped speed as much as Joe PA had to perpetuate the extended look away in PA's other version of "Win at all costs." Here's what I remember about Winslow. Big time prospect that came from a decent family and dated/married a hottie - in spite of his brat-like tendencies seen on television. The guy even wanted to play on the kick block units, where he broke his arm after blocking a kick in a game we won largely because of it. Prior to the hitting a parking lot speed bump at about 55 mph, he had a very promising NFL career ahead. Before injury rendered him to blocking from a pogo stick, he was a really good blocker downfield at the U while he was decent at setting the edge. Multiple surgeries later, a fraction of him had a couple productive seasons inclusive of 1 Pro Bowl during our 10-6 season in 2007.
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    Dwight Clark passes away, 61

    You don't need to Google just listen to Flugel. It's all in the 1st post of this thread that's only 1 sentence long.
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    Best Offense since 2007

    Well said Zombo! Heading into week 7 last year, Gregg Williams told reporters Emmanuel Ogbah was the #2 ranked DE in the league at playing the run according to Pro Football Focus (PFF). It would have been fun to see him and Garrett healthy for all 16 games. FWIW, here's how PFF ranked their Top 5 DTs against the run after the 1st 6 weeks of 2017: Lival Joseph, Vikings Grade 87.6 - Run Stop 16.1% Jamie Meder, Browns Grade 74.9 - Run Stop 13.7% Jurrell Casey, Titans Grade 80.1 - Run Stop 13.6% Carl Davis, Ratbirds Grade 76.2 - Run Stop 13.4% Danny Shelton, Browns Grade 77.7 - Run Stop 13.3% Beneficiary? Joe Schobert made the Pro Bowl as an alternate in his 1st season playing MLB. Kirksey also played well AGAIN while James Burgess made the most of his opportunity. This year we get Collins back from injury while adding Kendricks and the rookie Avery to make this deep position group. Gregg Williams was also quoted as saying "I've got a video of 28 snaps of Myles Garrett pass rushes last year where he gets within 2 steps or less of the QB when the ball comes out. Basically, we aren't covering long enough to let him get to the quarterback. Myles and others - especially Ogbah will get more chances because of Denzel. Ogbah was a major reason why the Browns went Ward over Chubb. Ogbah's a rising star in this league." High praise from our DC. For whatever it's worth - SR DE Chubb had 20 sacks his last 2 years at NC State while JR DE Ogbah had 22.5 sacks in his last 2 years at Oklahoma State. No area of the team was addressed more than our secondary this off-season after allowing the highest completion percentages to passers in 2017. In a division that has WRs like Antonio Brown, AJ Green and Michael Crabtree the arrival of Ward, Gaines, Carrie, Mitchell, Randall, and Thomas make a lot of sense.
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    WR position

    Good points. Another thing worth noting is our WR Coach was the position coach for Landry and Beckham at LSU. Maybe he's recommending/encouraging moving him around some.
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    WR position

    Very true. That, and shortcuts in other parts of the strength and conditioning. Some of these guys blowoff stretching, warming up and hydrating sufficiently. I remember 1 time when this guy I called Exhale asked me "Aren't you going to warmup?" I said I'm all set I just scratched my nose. Recuperation is one of the most underrated parts of getting bigger, faster and stronger. I learned that the hard way back in the day. The rookies never get the proper recuperation, which is why they hit the wall early (increasing their vulnerability to injury at the same time). Many go from Bowl Games to either the Senior Bowl or East-West Shrine Games to the Combines to their Pro Days to private workouts (for NFL teams) to however many mini-camps and OTAs that follow right after the draft. I really believe some of that is why Myles Garrett's bouts with the high ankle sprain lingered throughout last season. He didn't want to do the Pro Day after proving himself at the Combine but Jeff Fisher convinced him he needed to. I'm glad this off-season gave him a better opportunity to heal the ankle.
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    WR position

    Precisely! Plus I think that was after he had about 6 years of wear and tear on his body while Josh has only played 10 games since 2013. Josh looked big last year at this time too. Once training camp gets underway - the combination of heat and the strength training transition to a maintenance phase should reduce the mass/weight a little. I gave poor MJP a long winded reply that prolly had him snoring by the 2nd paragraph. The added muscle to Gordon over the last 2 years or so reminds me of TO/MeO. I don't think we'll see a decline in the speed/deep threat MJP and others are concerned about. If anything, we may see some better quicks out of stance and change of direction (especially if he's doing plyometrics).
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    Ghoolie is a Homo, this we know.

    I hear ya DieHard! I thought when telephones went from from turn dial to pressing buttons it was epic progress. Today, kids think the BC after a calendar year stands for Before Cellphones.
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    WR position

    Seymore Crack gives you a vertical smile from his plumber pants. Good smart asss though MJ so I'll do my best to give you the devil's advocate reply. It'll be long winded but hear me out... Of course I remember. Just like I remember why there's still so much emphasis on strength and conditioning all over the league and for pre-draft prep all over the country. Guys getting closer to 30 than 22 years of age aren't always going to have their FOs feeling all deep throat about their deep threat so their FOs draft a younger WR like Calloway just in case roles in the dynamic need to change. TBD... If more muscle mass was a problem for taller athletes - you would have seen Michael Jordan, LeBron James and Terrell Owens stay as skinny as they were at 21 years of age vrs the massed up versions dominating people at 27-28 years of age. Michael Irvin also looked like he was on an Etiophian track star's diet at the U while he looked about 20 lbs heavier in his HOF career. All these guys I mentioned could run just as fast, if not faster, than their much skinnier previous versions of lesser accomplishment. Have you seen how massed up James is? Didn't stop him from scoring 50 points on Golden State or beating the Celtics. Nothing wrong with Gordon wanting to be more like that than Johnny Manziel these days. Gordon used to routinely beat people down field with effortless LONG strides in tandem with the hand-eye coordination to make people pay. On the other hand, he's only played 5 football games since the 5 games he didn't score a single TD in back in 2014. In his 10 games since the magical 2013 season, he's scored only 1 TD. In 2014, he only averaged 12.6 yards per catch with 24 rec (47 targets) with 0 TD. In 2017, he averaged 18.6 yards a catch with 18 rec (42 targets) with 1 TD. When we've had the arm strength at QB to accommodate his long strides, he's scored more TDs especially in 2013. That said, who here misses Brandon Weeden after Kizer got sent packing? I'd rather get a comfortable blend of arm strength and accuracy from a QB that can either throw this guy open or hit him deep on a timing pattern from a 5-7 step drop or from an out-of-pocket waggle/bootleg. Many of our fans here have been saying this for years... As for the stuff Gordon can control, I have a good feeling that he wants to be able to run more routes (featuring change of direction) in the passing tree than the old effortless ones (like straight aheads/drags/posts) he used to get away with. That's a good thing. I wouldn't say that if I didn't see a much different Josh Gordon last year in particular on plays he wasn't the primary target where he ran a route and sold the play vrs the previous "F--- it I'm not getting the ball this play." Then again, it's tough to evaluate our WRs when an inexperienced QB that isn't being coached very well isn't accurate enough to promote YAC from the YUCK. Aside from work ethic, great hand-eye coordination is what made an often well covered WR like Cris Carter a HOF WR after he overcame a drug addiction. Nobody was better catching the ball in traffic or at reaching over and/or around guys in jump balls/double coverage or when well covered. Gordon can do this too especially if we can ever get confident and accurate enough QBs to pull it off. IMO, Gordon has very good hand-eye coordination with long levers and the same ability to out jump people if necessary. I HATE TO (MeO) but I think he morphed his body into the same well buffed temple I see Gordon working to establish. That didn't hurt his game - it took it to another level. If he can take the work ethic of both WRs I just mentioned - he won't allow himself to suck either. He'll be a bigger help to our QBs when he can run ALL of the routes in the playbook. It's gotta be better than the previous versions of preparation that never made it to game day...
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    Uncalled for insult from TO

    He was fun Tia but the domestic violence episode sunk his ship.
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