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    Role of the head coach - specifically this one

    1st and 10 at CIN 45 (2:11 - 2nd) K.Hogan pass incomplete short right. {thrown away} 2nd and 10 at CIN 45 (2:03 - 2nd) (Shotgun) K.Hogan pass incomplete short middle to G.Barnidge (V.Rey) [S.Williams]. {tipped at the line of scrimmage (2:00 - 2nd) Two-Minute Warning 3rd and 10 at CIN 45 (2:00 - 2nd) K.Hogan scrambles left guard to CIN 38 for 7 yards (K.Dansby). 4th and 3 at CIN 38 (2:00 - 2nd) (Run formation) PENALTY on CLV-K.Hogan, Delay of Game, 5 yards, enforced at CIN 38 - No Play. Right here, good ol' Hue can't figure out if he's gonna go for it, kick a FG, or what... (which we're o-6 so like, why not go for it?) So he ultimately causes the delay of game penalty. (didn't call TO, was gonna punt like a wussy and 'seemingly' head to halftime) 4th and 8 at CIN 43 (1:10 - 2nd) B.Colquitt punts 28 yards to CIN 15, Center-C.Hughlett, fair catch by A.Erickson. TOUCHDOWN7 PLAYS, 85 YARDS, 1:03 CLE10CIN21 1st and 10 at CIN 15 (1:03 - 2nd) (Shotgun) G.Bernard right guard to CIN 20 for 5 yards (C.Kirksey). (0:58 - 2nd) Timeout #2 by CLV at 00:58. Here, the Bengals had run it up the gutt and were getting up slowly and heading to the huddle...obviously content to run out the clock and head to halftime. But all of a sudden the ref was waiving Time Out. I'm like, WHAT? Who called TO? -- WE DID?! (remember above, we just took a delay of game penalty and DIDN'T call TO before punting) - So they marched down the field and scored a TD on a long pass.
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    Role of the head coach - specifically this one

    Unfortunately.
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    Mock depth chart?

    All of that sounds about right.
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    Elf come back?

    But why would a logo need to be scary? I'm not too scared of a cardinal. I like the name St. Louis Blues and their logo...
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    RB Position

    Dontrell Hilliard 25 RB 5-11 202 23 R Tulane Carlos Hyde 34 RB 6-0 229 27 5 Ohio State Nick Chubb 31 RB 5-11 227 22 R Georgia Duke Johnson Jr. 29 RB 5-9 210 24 4 Miami (Fla.) Matthew Dayes 27 RB 5-9 205 23 2 North Carolina State ------------------------------------------------------- So Carlos Hyde, Nick Chubb and Duke are all pretty much locks to be on the team. Mathew Dayes and Donttell Hilliard need at least one of the other 3 to get injured. Basically it's Hyde & Chubb replacing Crow. In this way if Hyde or Chubb get dinged, Duke doesn't absolutely have to come in and run a 3rd and 1 or 2 play. - I see our backfield as having been upgraded with sufficient talent for the position. I hope our OL can open holes that any back can run through
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    RB Position

    I think there's more 'corporate' fans now than back then. And I think the old Muni was more enclosed with more overhang.
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    RB Position

    Well then, Good luck to him! Tabor is gone and Haley calls the plays. A fresh start of sorts. Still though, it's the numbers game that's in his way. In front of him stand a Big free agency signing....a New contract for last year's most productive player....and the 35th pick in the draft. How do ya crack that lineup? Without an injury they'd have to keep 4 RB's and a FB. Somebody would be sitting on the floor in THAT position room.
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    RB Position

    Jim Brown / Ernie Green.....Leroy Kelly / Bo Scott....Mack / Byner. --- Those days are pretty much long gone. And they ain't commin' back. Well, that was back at the 'old' stadium where due to it's design, it held the sound inside the stadium. The new stadium allows the sound to escape...plus the play of the team has allowed our fans to escape so that the stadium fills up with fans of the opponent. (quite embarrassing actually)
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    RB Position

    And I still say neither makes the 53. I just don't think we're gonna keep 5 guys for the backfield.
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    RB Position

    Browns running backs as we continue our position-by-position analysis of the roster heading into 2018 training camp. THE RUNNING BACKS Carlos Hyde, Nick Chubb, Duke Johnson Jr., Matthew Dayes, Dontrell Hilliard What we know: The Browns brought in two new faces to take the lion’s share of carries in 2018. Hyde, who spent his first four seasons with the 49ers, came to Cleveland shortly after Isaiah Crowell, the team’s most active ball-carrier since 2014, signed with the Jets. Chubb, an old-school, “violent” runner from Georgia, landed with the Browns early in the second round of the NFL Draft. The returning constant is Johnson, who signed a contract extension during OTAs. The presence of Hyde and Chubb should allow Johnson to thrive as a change-of-pace option who has amassed more receptions (188) and receiving yards (1,741) than any running back since 2015. It’s a triple-threat the Browns hope to utilize early, often and all the way to the finish one year after the team tied for third-best in the NFL in yards per carry (4.5) but ranked 18th in total rushing yards. Biggest question: How will the Browns distribute the carries between Chubb and Hyde? New running backs coach Freddie Kitchens indicated he’ll ride the hot hand throughout the season. What was clear in June was he hadn’t seen enough to determine who would even take the first carry of the first preseason game. “If they are having success, why would you change? It may be somebody new from week to week,” Kitchens said. “As far as duties with carries and stuff like that, we are nowhere close right now. Things can change. We were talking about it this morning, things can change in a heartbeat. In one play, everything can change. That is the approach we have to take. Go with what you see.” Splitting the carries would be nothing new for Chubb, who shared duties at Georgia with Sony Michel, who was drafted a few picks earlier than him by the Patriots. Hyde, who battled injuries but is coming off his best season yet in the NFL, was the bell cow in San Francisco. X-Factor: Everyone knows what kind of pass-catching threat the Browns have in Johnson, but there’s optimism in Berea about what Hyde and Chubb can do through the air. Hyde caught just 50 passes in his first three seasons in San Francisco but amassed 57 in 2017. Chubb was sparsely used in Georgia’s passing game, but Cleveland wasted little time getting him involved throughout OTAs and minicamp. Simply put, the Browns believe both downhill runners can make an impact beyond what they do on the ground. “I think they’ve got better hands than a lot of people feel like they have,” Kitchens said. “They didn’t have very many dropped balls in OTAs and minicamp. You evaluate what you see on tape. What I see on tape is they’re consistently catching the football. Now, we’ve got to get them to the point where they get open more. That comes with repetition and them actually doing it.” Stat tracker: Chubb finished with more than 100 yards in more than half of his 47 games at Georgia. He cleared 200 on three occasions. Says it all: “Those guys know we’ve got great competition in that room. It starts on an individual basis from within. You’ve got to compete with yourself and we’ve got guys that do that very well. Then compete inside our room and compete offensively and compete as a team. That’s how it’s organized. We don’t have anybody in the room that’s going to back away from competition at all. That’s a good scenario to have.” -- Kitchens How many were kept at last year’s 53-man cutdown? 3
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    Steelers writer Ed Bouchette

    ...and I'd bet that he was hoping we'd trade or cut him so he wouldn't have to return to our endlessly crappy situation/football team. (I think we only own him this year and would need to negotiate a new contract with him for future services)
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    RB Position

    The man tried a 60 yard FG with Devon Hester standing in the end zone. The dipshit Atlanta coach called TO just before the snap so we ALL got to see Hester catch the ball in the end zone. So, whew, we dodged THAT bullet. BUT NOOOoooo. Pettine tries it again. No! Really! He tried it again! Like the exhibition that just happened never happened. And we all know what almost happened. He ALMOST returned it for a TD. You KNOW that a FG attempt is NOT like a punt right? There's no guys running down the field to COVER a FG. Pettine was a dope. And as Gumby said, O'Neil was a terrible coach too.
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    RB Position

    I wasn't on this board then.....but I hated everything about Pettine era. The players called him the Ghost...'cuz he walked around the practice field with his dark glasses on saying nothin' to nobody and teaching nobody nothin'.
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    RB Position

    lol Danny Vitale 40 FB 6-1 245 24 3 Northwestern Marquez Williams 42 FB 5-10 260 24 2 Miami (Fla.) I don't see us carrying 2 FB's & 3 RB's. We're probably going to have a bunch of TE's too.
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    Steelers writer Ed Bouchette

    You're looking at it from a humanitarian point of view...which is noble, of course. I've given up caring so much about that. Next year he'll wanna be a Dallas Cowboy. I look at players through a much colder lens these days. What is their value to my football team. Which includes ability, availability, work ethic, integrity, etc. (have I become jaded?)
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    Steelers writer Ed Bouchette

    ...sums it up pretty well right there. But there IS a difference this year because we have many New & Proven NFL players and personnel. Dorsey, Haley, Landry, Tyrod, Hyde. That's four of the most important offensive puzzle pieces. It IS possible that those upgrades could make a substantial difference. And then there's that jack-butt Josh Gordon. He could be good, he could be great, he could be lazy and he could be in jail. All in the same month. - Our team right now is a bit of a wild card. We're hard to predict at this point.
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    CB Sam Beal worth a 2019 draft pick?

    I guess you weren't let in on the secret......
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    CB Sam Beal worth a 2019 draft pick?

    ...and, of course, it makes PERFECT sense that the team that couldn't win ANY football games the previous season doesn't get to pick 1st. - Ya know what would be better? Is if they gave the superbowl winner the 1st pick. There'd be all kinds of players trying to position themselves for the draft. They could sell tickets...and beer...
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    You Missed this, No?

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    CB Sam Beal worth a 2019 draft pick?

    Well, obviously we didn't even pony up our 3rd rounder. HOPEFULLY, this year, we're not talking draft in October...like the last couple of years.
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    Would an NHL team work in Cleveland?

    umm....this is kinda' the football board. But I don't see why it wouldn't work. It's a northern city with a bunch of people with ice for brains.
  22. 18 days to TC. 31 days 'til we play at the Giants.
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    Pluto on Hue

    No. I think many of us DO realize how important Haley being the OC is. On the paper that you can make paper airplanes out of.....we should have a better running game and a better passing game. Tyrod, Landry, Callaway, Gordon, Hyde, Chub. On paper, not too shabby. (that's added to Duke, Njoku, Coleman, etc.)
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    Pluto on Hue

    Hue had a team with many 'round' players....but he wasn't gonna adapt his offense to them. Nope. Instead he mashed them into his 'square' holed offense. The Haslams, of course, don't know the difference...so they kept him (ironically). AT LEAST we have Haley running the offense this time around. Rumor has it that he understands how to tailor his offense to the round and/or square pegs that he's got to work with.
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    Tendencies - The definition of insanity

    We have a new guy drafting. At least this new guy DRAFTED one of the top QB's and didn't trade the draft pick for a mid round selection. That's progress in itself. Every friggin' offseason I would say the same thing. I want the best tall drink of water QB with a strong arm and good mechanics. This year we finally drafted the QB with our 1st pick...but he was the short guy. But he's the guy that Dorsey says is the best QB in the draft. He's met them all. Worked them on the white board. Watched them throw. Studied the film. Etc., etc. - Now, because I'm not all that interested in drafting the next Derick Anderson just for the sake of taking a big, strong armed QB.....what I REALLY wanted us to do was to draft who the decision maker(s) (Dorsey) decided was the BEST QB in the draft class. And THAT'S what happened. They didn't draft the RB. They didn't draft the guard, who many said was the actual best player in the draft. They didn't draft the pass rusher. They took the QB. IMO, that's a good thing. At least we swung the bat at a QB. Fact is, I preferred Darnold or Rosen...so if Mayfield flops and they don't then what? I can say I guessed right? For right now, and until Dorsey is proven wrong with his decision, he took someone that he feels can throw touchdown passes for us when he's up to NFL speed. We lost 16 straight games last season because we couldn't throw TD passes. I just don't have much of an argument right here and now, early July 2018. I've gotta give Dorsey the benefit of the doubt. It's what he deserves until he proves otherwise. Let's Go Browns!
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