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    Colin Coward

    I saw the thread about TEs and it just popped in my head, apparently Njoku is the best TE in the NFL He has gotten so far into this stuff with Baker that he is actually saying things like this so that when inevitably the Browns lose a game that he can do the I told you so about Baker. The funniest yet though was saying he never said Baker was like JM, when the week before he did. He cowered when Baker was there. So I guess things are looking up guys, the Browns now have the best TE in football.
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    Colin Coward

    I have noticed that, but before recently he was against the Warriors in that way. He was on the Lebron train. So yea flip flops on some things. But the reason he is probably on this Warriors thing right now is because he was all in on Celtics winning it all. I tried to find it and couldn't, but after game 1 when they played Mil, he went on air going really hard. Then he wah wah wah his way through the rest of that series. I would definitely say from what I have seen he is way more on Lebron than the rest of NBA. As for Durant, I feel really bad for him with the injury, but I don't care for him. Not as much as James for me, and I dislike Harden WAY more than either. But dislike him still. I would prefer Warriors win, but I don't dislike the Raptors at all. I am a Kobe guy, and there are a few guys in the league I like now, Curry, Thompson, Leonard. But the real reason I want Warriors is because of some of the talk about Steph and his "failures" in playoffs. I certainly wouldn't mind Toronto winning, and certainly Lakers as my team. If the Lakers had won though, I would want someone like Kuzma to be MVP, not LBJ haha. It may seem like its strange the teams I like, but got to remember there is no pro team in my state. And it really just came like a lot of people passed down. So I got teams I like and players I like. And players I dislike and teams I dislike in some of those sports.
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    Player v. Player

    What football were you watching in those days? I don't even care that you have your opinion on this situation btw. But those certainly aren't good examples to use for your argument about Baker. Rodgers was the backup QB going into his 2nd year, so he certainly didn't have the clout Baker does now. Brady was also the backup going into his second season. It wasn't until into the season he became the starter after Bledsoe got hurt. Brees going into his 2nd season, not as a 1st round pick mind you, he was actually the starter going into that season. But he was replaced as the starter in that season by Doug Flutie. And as mentioned by someone else, the next year SD had the 1st pick and selected Eli Manning, who they then traded for Rivers. So while you may have a point (maybe not), its certainly an opinion that you are entitled to, those are not good examples to prove a point.
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    Colin Coward

    I do have an account, but just read. I needed access for something else. Sad part is it really won't be much of a backtrack. Just his MO. He will find something (just like the BB thing) to use. He will absolutely use a different set of rules to justify something (like playing off INTs for Darnold or Luck, but kill Mayfield). I'll give you an example from this past year that has nothing to do with the Browns or any Cleveland team. He wasn't sold on Mahomes all year. In the playoffs, I guess he expected his wonder boy Luck to win. His premise was that Luck was the real MVP. So he declared that the winner of the game should win MVP. Chiefs win, well MVP is a regular season award, and look at the difference when they weren't the starters and Colts are still a rebuilding team, therefore Luck MVP. So he did backtrack, but just to double down on the same thing.
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    Colin Coward

    Someone brought up a good point the last time I saw that post. By Colin's logic, the Browns have 2 Super Bowl wins lol
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    Colin Coward

    You would think your other way would work (winning), but with these guys like Skip, Cowherd, Smith, etc it doesn't. They find some way to justify their incorrect takes, or find something meaningless to continue it. Baker as the example with CC, from undraftable to well you didn't celebrate with your team 1 time in 3 years, to childish actions with Hue, to being overrated, to it now being a bad thing having a teammates back and having a different personality than Brady or Luck. He even says INTs don't matter to him, especially when talking about 1 of his boys, Darnold or Luck. After the BALT game, he threw INTs. And while I dislike him, I really have nothing to really dislike with the actual game of LBJ. Its really how he is talked about, things that appear to happen behind the scenes, and in between whistles for me. But look at how Skip talks about him. He doesn't use the same criteria for his guys.
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    Colin Coward

    I have never written a word on Twitter, just read
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    Colin Coward

    You would have to read the posts to understand what I meant. Yes, they always existed, as nothing but employees went with them to Bal, and I don't think they were saying different, but at that time Cleveland had no team per say so the point was that whether he deserved fired or not, Coward is saying that is how bad this Browns franchise is and pointing to that as one reason why, when in fact it was Baltimore by then. Just think its funny no matter how you slice it that he has a tell when something stupid he says is disproved that he shuts up, and even with proof he digs in. That is how obsessed he is with his stupid Baker take/fued
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    Colin Coward

    Anyway, back to the original topic. I just saw on Twitter Colin still dissing the Browns. Go check it out. Saying this is franchise that fired BB. He continues to argue with people that he couldn't have been fired by the Ravens (it was already announced) because he was never an employee of the Ravens. So his argument is he was fired by the Browns WHO DIDN'T EXIST AT THE TIME. If you have ever seen his Twitter, once he is proven wrong or called out about something he shuts up. So this tells me he actually believes this HAHA
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    Colin Coward

    I certainly think that the Warriors benefited from those 2 being out, but I certainly hear more often that they were out over suspension and Bogut. Maybe they were the better team both those years, but I really saw no way to say that. There were obvious questions both years with the 2 things mentioned. And perhaps those could have changed either series, we will never know. But even the decisive game the 2nd time around was decided on 1 shot. I certainly don't agree with the opinion that I hear more often than either the Cavs injuries or suspension and injury with GS, the "Curry KNEW he couldn't beat James so he had to get the 2nd best player and give him the team." There was nothing I saw that would give me reason to think that a close series like that couldn't occur, and Cavs were minus Kyrie. The one thing I will say with the Warriors now that doesn't get mentioned much is how the team changed because of KD, which is now showing big time. They have absolutely no bench that can be consistently relied upon. When KD is in there, it masks that problem. They can even compete (maybe not with Raptors), but take another one out, Klay and Curry has to do it all. People (no one here that I seen) can bring up the still has X number of All Stars, but that doesn't tell the story. Cousins is a shell of himself and has actually been a liability last 2 games, Iggy is just too old, and Draymond is really a system player and unreliable on offense. Just the same way James was by himself that 1st finals. I will say that Curry has some more help than James did, even if I hate to admit that. But James is also an easier player for that situation because he relies on isolation, while Curry relies on movement and space. And James is better. Since I don't like him and hes on my favorite team, I think Lakers need to trade James to Toronto for Kawhi lol
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    Colin Coward

    I'll just comment on the number of points and not quote anyone. What the Cavs and LBJ did to win was very impressive, and while I dislike Bron, and do like GS, really just Curry and Thompson (not my favorite team, but in a bit of a quandary since Bron is a Laker and that's my team), I don't consider them the best of all time. Maybe the most accomplished regular season of all time, but remember a couple years ago when ATL had the best record in the NBA? They weren't the best team that year. Cleveland won yes, but it could have went either way. That was with Love and Irving and without Draymond (who deserved it) and someone for 6 and 7. I think both those years that they were about as evenly matched as 2 teams could be. That's just my opinion on it. The problem with the Warriors now is with the money they shelled out for KD and with age of guys who played bigger back then, that they have no bench now. That was a key to their winning. And Toronto is really good. Doesn't bother me 1 bit that they are going to win. As for most valuable players ever, I think there are a few that can be considered. James isn't the only guy who left this Cavs team, and I think it was pretty obvious that they were tanking. And James was 28-27 this year with Lakers. If I had to give a definitive answer on MV ever, I probably would say LBJ, but not like it a wide margin. One thing that does knock him down to me is things around him. But certainly one of the best players ever. I don't even knock him for the 3-6 record. Even if he was playing in a weaker conference, that is impressive. The Jordan guys point out 6-0, well how about the other years he played and didn't make it? Those count too. But I certainly don't think his win in CLE is most impressive of all time. As for Colin and Njoku, that was my point that he is trying to use it as an ah ha in the future. But he only thinks in the moment on a hot take. You can bet at some point in next year a Kelce, Kittle, etc will be called best. My point was the same thing could be accomplished with one of the best, but hey now Cle has the best TE
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    Colin Coward

    Oh, I know his persona. It just jumped out at me, not just one of best TEs, but I think his words were and probably the best TE. Figured everyone would like to hear that Browns have the best TE. But I would be willing to bet that if he did his Top 10 TEs that he wouldn't be mentioned in Top 5. He seems to forget things he said in past to support that minutes agenda. For another Cleveland guy, I distinctly remember him talking about LBJ. Now everyone knows I dislike him. But Colin was one of them James is so great, over the top, Bron can do no wrong guys. Last year in the middle of the series with Indiana 1st round, Cleveland had lost a game. He comes on with his hot take that the league has passed him by, he will never make a huge impact again, etc. Fast forward within the next couple weeks (I don't know how long), Bron is soooooooo great, arguably the best player of all time.
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    I want to believe this but....

    I don't know how to respond to certain spots like that, so I am just going to reference it. As for smugness, that may not have been your intention, but it was how it came off. When a question is asked, when the response is "I didn't know I was obligated..." it comes off a certain way. I said that about ranking them because you said you didn't. So you actually went from "I didn't really rank others much" to yeah I did, but here's why. Those are 2 different things. And I obviously said that I don't even see anything wrong with having that bias, its certainly understandable. Most things that would be deemed flaws would occur in comparison, thus really can be argued and opinion. The point was that people sometimes wont point out those flaws. Everyone has flaws, its just I have so many less than everyone else lol jk
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    I want to believe this but....

    It was just the smugness it seemed to have when saying you weren't obligated. You kinda did rank some of them: Cam, Foles, Eli and said so and so would be behind them. And if you can't see how people, not just this forum, not just Browns fans, not just football fans, etc tend to ignore the flaws when it is something they like, have, etc then I don't know what to tell you. I'm not even saying it is wrong to do so. Beauty/worth is in the eye of the beholder. A perfect example that you have even referenced is the Steeler guy and how he changed up on Brown.
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    I want to believe this but....

    I get that, I'm not saying anyone has to have a spot for him. I don't know where I would put him. That was just a question, no right or wrong answer. It was really just about saying so and so hasn't done anything, so they would be lower than so and so.
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    Gerald McCoy signs with Panthers

    I'm not saying that they cant be, but certainly way too early to make that claim, especially as a pitch for a player.
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    I want to believe this but....

    Well one, I never said anything about his flaws, but if you think he is perfect then go ahead. I don't care if you agree with them, I certainly know my knowledge, and it's also not a peeing contest. And if you think that asking where you would rank him was somehow wrong, then I can't help you. Nobody said you were obligated to. But it is funny you don't know where you would rank him, yet have no issue with ranking others. And of course there are cases both ways, nobody ever said different.
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    I want to believe this but....

    Where would you have Baker? You didn't mention him in that. Not that it will happen, nor that it looks like that, but we have seen QBs do really good things in 1st year and then fall off. Nothing I have seen would tell me that, but there is history. Even though he is a different QB than some of them. Certainly not just you Gip, wherever you have him ranked, but people want to point out flaws for others and not use them for their guy. Again that doesn't mean you, and not just about Baker.
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    Gerald McCoy signs with Panthers

    Hopefully it happens, but you think you might be getting ahead of yourself? Forget about arguing playoffs or even Super Bowl, as that has been talked about enough (and I can even partially see why), and you did qualify that. But what exactly has anyone seen to call tremendous coaching?
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    Personal Conduct

    Someone said he not to be named resurfaced under another name. Just curious what the new name was
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    Personal Conduct

    I miss a little time and the guy I love to tell how wrong he is came back? Boo, what name?
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    Greedy Williams

    I don't mind, and I don't mean this in a mean way, but go back a few posts from me, I mentioned a couple already. If you can't find them, or don't understand, or need more proof then I can give it to you
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    Greedy Williams

    I agree that at this moment they are being overvalued and undervalued. And I realize that a lot of your arguments are made to look worse because of the back and forth you have going. But that old saying (and no I'm not calling either fools), but from a far fool's arguing. I really don't care how the Steelers do. I am the different type of guy who doesn't hate them. From some of the issues they have had, I certainly hope well for both Conner and Shazier. But even you have to admit some of your answers come off as contradictory. It would be hard pressed to find anyone who doesn't really show favoritism when evaluating things. So when I went position by position and it was about even, that's about what it is.
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    Greedy Williams

    Mr. Pittsburgh, how in the world can you actually bring up having a higher Draft grade to boost your argument? I can't remember which year it was, maybe both, but when JM and Gilbert were picked and/or the year Cleveland went 0-16, they were given an A for the draft. How exactly did those turn out? Look, I know you are a fan of your team, as the ones really coming at you are for Cleveland. And yes, some people on here seem to be crowning them without evidence, but that certainly isn't me. I am about as level headed as you will find. I say that to say that some of your points make ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE, and some are contradicting yourself. Let's go through a couple and maybe since it is someone you aren't actively arguing/fueding with you can see it. I don't even agree with everything that is being said about your team btw. Gilbert: you didn't lose him, you let him leave. He is gone, not on the team. Whether he was good or not, you did lose him. I didn't see where anybody said you were spurned by him. OBJ/AB: You really need to make up your mind here, not choose a side based on your argument. In their careers, yes AB has been better than OBJ. But when you point that out you can't possibly think people will side with you are better without him. Other WR: You have talked a lot recently about Landry not being all that good. Yet you are bringing up Johnson. And even worse with this argument is saying the Browns haven't proven anything with OBJ, yet you signed Moncrief. Does that REALLY make sense to you. You also seem to not want to reply to the fact that things will be different now with JuJu being #1 without the benefit of AB. Go ahead, read it again, I didn't say they couldn't be just as good or better, but it certainly isn't a simple "he did this last year as a 2, he will be even better next year as a 1." The best example I can give for that is a 2nd best player in NBA. When he becomes the best player things aren't always trending up for him. Playoffs: Whether anyone here on either side wants to admit it or not, the team that won the division last year was Baltimore. Neither the Browns nor Steelers were in the playoffs last year. So both have to improve this year to get there. Again, I have a TON of experience in this great game, and if you think you have the edge in almost every category you are mistaken. But it really is both sides of an argument valuing their guys over the other. If it wasn't then you would see how you are saying things to justify your own guys while saying the same thing to devalue the Browns guys. Perfect example to this: the devaluing of Greedy as the 2nd CB, but I am sure you are saying you have the better MLB right now. Bush AND Greedy have done the exact same thing, NOTHING. And questioning how some players will fit or work with CLE, but just assuming they will with PITTSBURGH
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    Sione Takitaki

    Everyone is entitled to an opinion of anything, certainly how they feel about a player. With that being said, the ones saying how bad of a pick it was dont jive with also saying In Dorsey we/I trust. If the reaction was to do that, then no it wasn't In Dorsey you trust, it was that you didn't have a reason to complain before. It was that you sided with the decision making prior. That isn't trust. I wont go through all the moves, just a couple. This is how it appears when that happens. Ward- I liked Chubb more, but I can see why he made the decision. Works out- he is great N. Chubb- hes great, got the 2nd best back in Draft. Genius move OBJ- we got the best receiver in NFL. Then without a 1st round pick, the Dorsey is such a genius he can find a way to move to 1st to get "x player" without giving up 1st next year. Greedy- Dorsey knew exactly when to move up to get the best CB in Draft. He is the man. Takitaki- this is a terrible pick, a huge overreach (because nobody in the media/pre draft THOUGHT he would go that high). Mack- he was the 2nd or 3rd best LB in the draft. This was INCREDIBLE value. An absolute steal. He should be starting day 1 So when its like that, you trust, but a pick you don't then you don't trust. Those just don't work together. If I trust someone, I trust them at any time. What I see in this scenario is that most people undervalued Sione and overvalued Mack. That doesn't mean that Mack won't be better, its just the assumption of grade. As the person that people wants to trust had the choice of each and chose 1 before the other. Maybe, just maybe, JD wanted both and actually KNEW how both were graded. Everyone seems to dismiss the fact that its not like it was an either/or, and that Mack "the unbelievable steal" went a couple picks later or something. There was 9 LBs selected between the 2. Mack wasn't the next ILB, 3 taken before him. Again, I have zero issue with people having an opinion (whether right or wrong, or proven correct or incorrect) about a player. But if it's the same people saying they trust Dorsey, then its not right to complain at the 1st thing he does that they don't agree with. Trust isn't, I trust them unless they do something I disagree with
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