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  1. Gunz41

    Antonio Brown

    Na, wasnt dwelling on it. Just remember you were so high on Rudolph, I remember the argument back and forth with someone. So when saying that they would fall off a cliff or whatever it is, just didn't make sense. Had the reply had been I was off on him, would have never heard a word back. But when its said you didn't say that, well I went back. Had your reply been, like you just said, forgot I said that, then cool, but with that quote directly in front of you, you then tried to twist it. But wait, I just remembered. You can't be blamed for occasionally twisting an argument to give your own answer. You are a lawyer. And that isnt saying that in a bad way, but you have to do that at times. So I apologize, carry on
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    Antonio Brown

    See that wasn't but so painful was it? It wasn't the fact you forgot it, its when your exact post is in front of you and you say something different. Obviously you don't have the wrong spirit like Ghoolie, but you know how bad he would have been crushed for that. And nope, you certainly aren't that important, sorry to tell you.
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    Antonio Brown

    Its obvious now that you won't admit to anything you ever say is wrong. Nothing but proof in just that 1 post. "And they select the QB that is going to prove to be the best QB of the bunch anyway: Mason Rudolph." So tell us again how he wasn't your top QB? Just be consistent. None of us could count the times that you, as well as others, called out Ghoolie for not taking responsibility for past speak. You are doing the same thing here. There is a difference between having new data and changing your opinion. There is a difference in not wanting someone to succeed now. But to flat out deny it, when its right in front of you is ingenious. Cant have it both ways. NOWHERE in that message does it say best QB in the area he is drafted. In fact, it says the opposite, you said he will end up the BEST pro QB. You also come across as thinking you know more than the FO, or anyone on here. This is 3rd time recently that you have been called out on something and each time refused to budge. "How is it Clemson and Alabama played an extra game?" Because of NC. The reply, well I know how they played an extra game obviously, I was talking about their schedule. "You can make more money playing football than baseball." The average player makes more in baseball. The reply, "The rosters are bigger so they are making more % wise for the budget." Well that doesn't mean anything to this conversation. The reply, "Of course it does, anyone would know that baseball players makes more than football players, but that isnt the point. I just wanted to educate you and others on a broader level' But I guess in summary, I did get what I was asking for. You are consistent. You consistently change the narrative to try and be correct. That way you never have to admit you were wrong on anything
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    Antonio Brown

    Hmm. You sure about that? "Here is a Prudent Solution to the Browns draft Quandary over who to draft: Since most draft pundits think that Barkley and Chubb are actually the two best players out there, then they should take them. Take one at 1 and the other at 4. The only concern would be if another team picking at 2 or 3 grabs one of them....and that team would be the Giants, not the Jets who did not trade up to 3 to draft anything but a QB. So, we would have to hope that the Giants either pick what they believe to be their QBOTF....or that they trade out to a team that does want one of the QBs. So, assuming that happens, then the Browns get both of the best players that are thought to be the best available. Then, they trade back into the later first round....perhaps to the mid 20s, and they select the QB that is going to prove to be the best pro QB of the bunch anyway: Mason Rudolph. So then, the Browns will then have the best of all three worlds....the two best players and the best QB. Now, the Browns are not always known to be the most prudent team when it comes to drafting......and a few of you may not think this would be the most prudent move for the Browns....but it is."
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    Antonio Brown

    Weren't you hyping up Mason Rudolph before the draft? I thought he was your top QB. Assuming the team continues to develop, they have close to same amount of talent as Stoolers. I certainly think barring catastrophe, they have a brighter future with the age of team. But I also don't think Pitt will fall off a mountain
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    Who is the bigger idiot

    I'm not saying he couldn't be a good QB, I am saying that it doesn't prevent him from being hit and potentially injured. Those "hits" you brought up. Look at it this way. Barry Sanders was quicker, he took shots, and was also not in a stationary position. Mike Vick took shots and he had more top end speed. Look at a small slot receiver, that is the size of KM. You seem to be speaking of him that he is less prone to being hit, where there is really no evidence in that. And if hit, he is smaller to withstand those hits. You think he will hold up well getting shots from Aaron Donald? Khalil Mack? Luke Kuechly? If he inherited the 90's Cowboys OL, then he would be greatly protected. But Cardinals, Giants, Jaguars, Oakland? Those are not good lines. Its really hard to compare guys now with even 10 years ago, as the offenses are so much more wide open. But one of the worst throwers of the football in memory, according to almost all is Tim Tebow. His college completion percentage, 66.4. To compare, KM, 67.4. Blake Bortles, 65.7. So to say he has such a great arm, never know until he is in the league.
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    Who is the bigger idiot

    Murray has a little more quickness, but not anywhere close to speed of RG3 or Michael Vick, how did those work out. People seem to look at speed/quickness/strength in college and just think it translates the exact same to pros, but that isn't the case.
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    Who is the bigger idiot

    Deion avoiding contact a lot. QBs cant help but so much how much they get hit, it is somewhat dependent position, as they are depending on line to block, and stationary at times. Also aren't a lot of late hits/ roughing on defenders. The odds of getting hit are exponentially higher for QBs
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    Who is the bigger idiot

    The major question isn't what he would make at the beginning though. It's what he could make over the course of his career. I don't think hes going in thinking he will fail. And the other thing is how much of a price do you put on health. You are going to get hurt, question is when, how bad, and how often. Brady has been about the healthiest you will see, and he missed a season.
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    Haskins Declares

    Well that is true, and it could also be used to go that maybe Kingsbury didn't have anything to do with any of them, just happened to get lucky. Which almost shows that it has MORE to do with individual players. But that was way past my point anyway. My point was that 99.9% of America has said how terrible Kingsbury hire is, he had a losing record at TT, etc. Well if it is JUST about coaching a college QB who had success, then he is the best hire in a long time. Hatred for certain coaches is fueling this debate. Saying Urban, Saban, etc, well they aren't in the business of recruiting what will be the best pro prospect, they are in the business of recruiting the best player for them in college. So while JT Barrett, Cardale Jones, Braxton Miller, Jalen Hurts, etc may not be pro QBs, they certainly worked in college. But I digress, let's use an example how silly it is to say that JUST because Haskins played at Ohio State and was coached by Urban he wont make it in pros. T.C Ostrander, Tavita Pritchard, Alex Loukas, ANDREW LUCK, Jake Rudock, Wilton Speight, John O'Korn, Shane Morris, Brandon Peters, Shea Patterson, Dylan McCaffrey, Joe Milton. All those QBs played under Jim Harbaugh. Did he only know how to coach QB for 2 years with Andrew Luck? Or maybe, just maybe it has something to do with the player. That coming from one of these "QB whisperers", while that isnt spoken about Meyer. That is obviously only 1 example
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    Haskins Declares

    Manziel. The point is, nobody would say Kingsbury was the best coach in college. That would go to the Urban, Saban, Dabo crowd. Its almost as if these college coaches recruit what will help THEM and their team, not the best pro players lol But since to some (wont mention names), its ALL about having the best PRO QB in college and developing them into such, then looks like all those people talking about how terrible Kingsbury is dont know anything. Since he has coached those guys and those guys have had success, then KK is Lombardi, Parcells, Walsh, Belichick, and McVay all rolled into 1.
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    Haskins Declares

    The funny thing is, the question being asked about which coach has had the most Pro QB who could actually play (compared to competition). I have an answer. And it is the one who has been getting CRUSHED as being such a terrible hire and not worthy. How about Kliff Kingsbury. Case Keenum, Baker Mayfield, Patrick Mahomes. 2 guys in past 2 years in AFC championship games and a good chance of ROY.
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    Will Not Watch

    The last part, and not saying you said it, but it seems like the overall opinion is a double standard. Use someone like Cowherd, Notre Dame loss proved that they arent worthy of being in the CFP, as they lost by 27 points. They are not given the benefit of saying, well maybe Clemson was just that good, or that ND just played their worst game of the season. No words on, well they will be back next year. Some of the justification for that, because ND lost bad when they played Alabama in the Teo year and his fake girlfriend year. Fast forward a week and ALL 3 of those things are said about Alabama. Its just a double standard, and those really get on my nerves, and it isnt just exclusive to sports. Without going into detail, or a side, this is what we see in today's society. Pro trump crowd: cuts down the Statue of Liberty while proclaiming how much he loved Hitler "Trump is so great, that Statue needed to come down years ago and Hitler was misunderstood." That type of thing. Anti Trump people, Trump goes into a burning house and saves 8 people. "Well he should have done it faster, stayed in there to check for others" As for had an Alabama had that type of loss, well the committee chairman said they had A LOT of discussion about putting Georgia in, with 2 losses, said it was really close. They also had them in over OSU. They had a pretty bad loss. What I am saying is their is a difference in view in a 28 point loss to Clemson vs a 29 point loss to Purdue. And no wasnt assuming that, I thought I read either in this thread or another where you had said OSU deserved to be in. Either way, it doesn't matter. We all have views on things. God Bless
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    Will Not Watch

    Sorry Gip, but you cant have it both ways. You talk about Ohio State and should have been in playoff, yet say Alabama if lost like that in Regular season should have been disqualified. I dunno, maybe its just me, and certainly not just this topic as I have shown, I just think that the same rules need to apply. And to not use context for games is ludicrous in my mind. Yes they count the same as a loss, but to use a loss to the #1 team and then compare a loss to a 6-7 just doesnt add up. You can say it is a rare occasion, and sure they is right, but its not usually like teams often. Who would I think would win this past year in a 10 game series between North Dakota State and Louisville, NDSU. Who was the best team in Va a couple years ago, JMU. Honestly, in your mind, who would you worry about playing more as an Ohio State fan, Tulane or North Dakota State? The thing that gets me, whether it is fans, talking heads, etc is this, and it actually goes somewhat to your opinion, is EVERYONE wanted to say how bad Notre Dame was, how they didn't belong, and should never get in again because they lost to Clemson by 27. Alabama loses by 28, and there are 3 views on that: Clemson is just soooooo good, Alabama played badly, or Alabama will be back. To me, that is just not using the same rules. If ND doesn't deserve it, then neither would Alabama. You have to give ND the same rules too then, maybe they played their worst. These people are using history to look at ND from the Teo days. If a 27 point loss to Clemson is the standard, then neither does Ohio State.
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    Freddie's Staff searches

    The funniest thing I heard from him about the Browns, "they have a little success and they act some way, this is the same organization that thought Bill Belichick wasnt any good." I have never tweeted in my life, but wanted to tweet him just to tell him how wrong and stupid he was, THAT organization is one that he praises. He is a talking head, and when he makes a prediction, instead of going back on it, he doubles down and shows he is rooting against anything good
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    Will Not Watch

    I think OSU would have been the most dangerous team in the playoffs, but no the loss to VT wasnt as bad. You also seem to think that a low end FBS team cant be beaten by a higher end FCS team, saying it should count as a loss. In reality they can and will beat them. Not saying every time, and not saying the specific teams involved here, but I would be willing to bet that a loss to a North Dakota State would look better to a committee as opposed to a team like Rutgers, Tulane, Louisville, etc. You obviously don't even want to see a different side when you say Alabama loss to Clemson was almost as bad as the Purdue loss. Its called context. Its not JUST about the point total, its about who it was to. And don't start trying to flip things like a troll. You obviously didn't say were a little confused about 15 games when you said this. "One stupid thing is that the Clemson coach was bragging about them being to first team to go 15-0 since the 1890s. All that means though is that they piled on a couple of extra cupcakes on their schedule at the beginning of the season. How is it that they....and no one else was allowed to schedule an extra regular season game?"
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    Freddie's Staff searches

    Yes, I know that. That was my EXACT point in my post, Manny Diaz left Miami to be HC at Temple, days later went back to Miami. Kingsbury took OC job for USC in December, less that a month later he leaves them. Still don't see what to give credit for?
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    Freddie's Staff searches

    I dont know what you are giving him credit for?
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    Will Not Watch

    I guess you need a trivia test. They didn't have an extra regular season game. They Were 15-0 vs Ohio State 13-1 because they played the extra game in the championship. And going back to the topic earlier about a bias between the south vs north, and pollsters putting SEC teams in to make them look better, 6 SEC teams vs 5 Big Ten. Again guys, nothing wrong with biases, we all have them, but when you post them, have accurate facts, or it removes merit from your argument. Most of these teams have "cupcakes" on their schedule. The schedules are made years in advance. Unless the point wanting to be made is that an Alabama should have scheduled a Texas, Ohio State, Michigan, etc then that one game doesn't effect anything. They wouldn't have lost to another SEC team. By pointing out this SEC bias, you really are only showing yours for the Big 10. I am just as big a Buckeye fan as any of the gentlemen on this board, but tell me which team in the Top 10 had an even close to as bad a loss as them? 2. Alabama lost to Clemson, 4. Oklahoma lost by 3 to Texas (who they later beat) and Alabama, 5. Notre Dame lost by less than Alabama, and EVERYONE around the world said that showed they didn't belong and should never get in again. 6. LSU- 3 losses to Florida by 8, Alabama by 29, and Texas AM by 2. That same Texas AM was a bad fumble call away from beating Clemson. 7. Florida- Kentucky by 11, Georgia by 19, Missouri by 21. That is a pretty bad loss. 7. Georgia- LSU by 20, Alabama by 7, Texas by 7. Texas- Maryland by 5, Oklahoma State by 3, West Virginia by 1, and Oklahoma by 12. Washington State- USC by 3, Washington by 13. Just be honest with yourself and everyone else. Had Alabama been beaten by 30 by Vanderbilt, would you not crucify them?
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    Freddie's Staff searches

    In a couple weeks, the Browns could probably land Manny Diaz and Kliff Kingsbury, they dont seem to stay at a job they get hired to for more than a couple weeks. Then in the weeks that follow, we can revisit this lol
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    Haskins Declares

    No question there. But to just use Wisconsin isnt telling the whole story
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    Antonio Brown

    Its well documented that this isnt the 1st instance of him causing problems. Not the 1st year. So no, cant blame it on the team getting older and not having Bell. The ones saying the Browns overpaid for a WR, I assume from previous talk on here, are referring to Landry. But I guess I forgot how much people value draft picks over proven players. And a lot JUST look at production in some instances to make their point, but use locker room influence in other instances. But I'll digress. Which one of these guys would have been better for Browns both on and off the field? Jaleel Scott, J'Mon Moore, Justin Watson, Daurice Fountain, Jordan Lasley, Marques Valdez Scantling, Deon Cain, Ray Ray McCloud, Dylan Cantrell, Russell Gage, Equamious St Brown, Cedrick Wilson Jr, Braxton Berrios, Javon Wims, Marcell Ateman, Richie James, Auden Tate, Austin Proehl, Trey Quinn. Deon Cain after all were drafted after the Browns took a WR.
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    Haskins Declares

    Well to be fair, you have to also give ACC credit with Wilson. He was at Wisconsin for 1 year, NC State for more
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    Bleacher Report Game of the Year

    I'm not arguing the overall point, I think BOTH conferences have really good teams at the top. If you haven't noticed, the things that get me to post most of the time are using different standards for the same thing, or using opinion as fact, or appearing to deliberately use only particular facts instead of whole picture. For example, Ohio State only beat 4 ranked teams (Penn State, Michigan, Northwestern, and Washington). When in fact, they beat 6 at the time (add TCU and Michigan State). A person trying to only use one set of facts to bolster their argument will only use one of them. They can then, and some do, turn around and use the opposite side to make a point. Or let's use something in the pros, and hot topic on this thread in past year. Saquon Barkley is soooooo great he had all these yards. True. Take out the big plays and YPC goes way down. So one side of the argument says he isnt a complete workhorse and is assisted some by big plays. True. The opposite opinion will look at other parts as complete. Or for a national audience, and what REALLY gets me, is someone like Colin Cowherd who uses completely different standards. Example: someone he likes, say a Darnold or Luck, throw an INT, I dont care about INT, when BM threw 3 against Baltimore, its ALL about the INT. Just trying to keep everyone honest. The way I look at things is I try to look at both sides. So if we are to look at # of ranked teams as the 1st example, if you are saying at the time they played and I am saying using the final standings, then we are discussing 2 different things.
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    Bleacher Report Game of the Year

    I also am a huge Buckeye fan, but I think the 1st point in this post is off the mark. Maybe at the end of the season there were more SEC teams ranked, so an LSU could boast they beat so many top 25 teams, but seeing the top 25 each week, there were certainly quite a few Big 10 teams ranked throughout the season, even ones voted out and then back in. And so much of it is really where a team started out ranked. Here is what I remember (and not going back to see exact numbers). Big 10: OSU, Mich, Penn state, NW, Mich St, Wisconsin, Iowa 7 Teams SEC: Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Florida, Kentucky, Miss St, Texas A&M, Missouri, Auburn 9 Teams I could have missed someone, but not a huge disparity. Using bowl games as a barometer is a risky thing, as teams have different motivations going into them. There is absolutely no way to actually think that a Florida team is THAT much better than team up north as just 1 example. Georgia loss didn't surprise me in the least either. Georgia thought they should be in playoff, and didnt have same motivation against Texas. In my opinion, at their best, the Top 4 teams in the nation are Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, Georgia. It's hard to give a next 4, as have bad memories of the last games of a few, such as Oklahoma and Notre Dame, and just being unsure about a few others like Texas, LSU, etc
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