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    Coaching, Football, Cleveland Browns,Ohio St and Virginia Tech in football, UNC in basketball, LA Lakers, Playing Pool

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  1. Gunz41

    Oh That Crafty Bellichek

    Well that one of us heard wrong, as in what I put in this thread was their 2 1sts and 2 2nds THIS year. And dont forget that the 1st 2 Super Bowls Tom Brady wasnt a superstar, he simply did enough for them to win by great defense and kicking game. And maybe they wouldn't have won 5, not likely they would have, but if some of the QBs that have won could win, then I think BB could have found someone in the last 20 years. Your original statement just comes off as hate and hypocritical and hypothetical. To just assume that they would have to give up something that was thought to be monumental without knowing and proclaiming they would be giving up their future is off base. Name one GREAT RB they have had in his system. Name a GREAT OL they have had recently. And name and provide the link where it's been said that BB wouldn't be there in the future, not some guess or what someone thinks will happen.
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    Oh That Crafty Bellichek

    Of course he does, but BB has something to do with their success as well. I give Brady more of it though. But they did pretty good when Brady had been out. Also everyone's new it/best thing ever QB is Jimmy G. Why? Did every team just miss the boat, or did some of that have to do with the coaching he received? But you just skipped over the main point. You said for them to move up for the QB they would be giving up the future. That is just simply wrong. Wynn, Michel, and Dawson may be future starters, but that isn't a future of the franchise. Yes Brady makes the guys he plays with better, but it also has to do with everything they do in New England
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    Oh That Crafty Bellichek

    Well if what I heard is correct (which may not be) is the Patriots plan was to give up both 1sts and 2nds to move up. So they would have them given up Wynn, Michel, and Dawson. That certainly isn't their future to not have a QB. The Patriots have had 1 back that was a high pick, Corey Dillon. And it certainly isn't a forgone conclusion that BB wont be there in the future. You seem to forget what Patriots do with players a lot of people didn't want.
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    Revisionist History

    1. I wasnt advocating him there, my point was that at the time everyone saying it wasnt a great pick as the team already had 2 starting guards, but dont know what the teams plans are. 2. With where Thomas was taken, I think any of Hubbard, Hurst, or Griffin have more value. I dont see the resistance to the Ward over Chubb pick. 2 years ago the team invested 2.1 I believe in Ogbah, and the team needed DB help. This goes to the whole point of the thread, had the team taken Chubb there would have been those saying well there was another wasted high pick in Ogbah. There are those that will complain no matter what the team does, not only just to complain but to not even look at what the idea/plan may be. A team could have JJ Watt and Joey Bosa at DE and Justin Gilbert at CB, and just as an example Myles Garrett may be a better/higher rated player, but Lattimore makes more sense for them. The team thinks that Ogbah can be a good player, no reason to call them stupid for passing Chubb.
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    Oklahoma QBs over the year

    Jason White, could be quite a few players, Baker Mayfield, and Johnny Football
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    Oklahoma QBs over the year

    One would be undrafted Heisman winner Jason White, I'm guessing other is either Baker or Bradford.
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    Revisionist History

    Might be, just heard some talking about getting a G when they already have 2 good ones. It's about 14 hrs since the pick, no reason to say its terrible right now
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    Revisionist History

    Since I already started this thread and it goes along with it: I have seen all the meaning about Ward over Chubb. I get it he was rated higher, but I just wonder how many people would have been groaning had the Browns taken Chubb that there wasn't a corner, or even more that the Browns wasted another high pick since they got Ogbah replacement? As for the Guard pick and wondering why. I dont have any inside knowledge, but maybe the thought process is moving one of the Guards to tackle. Now as for the DE pick, not a fan of it. I would have taken Sam Hubbard or Griffin
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    Nick Chubb

    Saquon is a man's brain creation, as in didn't show 2nd overall in college, yet to some in best thing ever, even over sliced bread. No, I take that back. He isn't anything man made, he isn't human I heard so he must be kryptonian made
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    Revisionist History

    The way he posts, and I do believe he is trolling most of the time, he deserves to be called out. When it is clear that he has said these things it needs to be called out. Because in a week, month, year he will say he was right about everything and he said it first. So yes he is being fed, but he is getting fed his own ****. I think I have heard it can be quite nutritious
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    Revisionist History

    That is the thing that has ruffled my feathers a few times on here, and maybe it shouldn't, but people having revisionist history. Just like you said with Watson, there were people saying he was trash and then the obvious "we should have drafted him." But what is even worse, and one of the reasons I brought up the trade rumors, is the ones who said how bad and dumb it was to trade last year. Trades NEVER work, look what the Browns get. Then some of those same people, "well we have an opportunity to get 2 TOP players." Well the Browns had that opportunity because of a TRADE. There was no Barkley, Chubb, Ward, Fitzpatrick discussion if not for a TRADE. But then again, the Browns should NEVER trade. But the funniest of all is the Brock trade. People have said just how valuable these draft picks are, some say they wouldnt trade that great draft capital for a Pro Bowler, so that 2nd seems pretty valuable, but they want to get mad and say but we paid him 16 million. So that pick is SOOOOOOOOO valuable that you wouldnt trade it for a Pro Bowler, but youre upset because it cost the team with most cap in history 16 million? Yea doesnt make sense. It is what it is, it just seems like some just want to whine about ANYTHING, just want to say EVERYTHING is bad. I KNEW when I looked last night after Ward pick that there would be those who would be saying he went too high and if the Browns were going to take him then they should have traded down. Same that said Browns shouldnt trade. You see, maybe I just view things differently. But there are no definites. There should ALWAYS be a case for trading, whether you do it or not. But when you dont get the player you wanted to draft, you cant turn around and say they SHOULD have done something you were so against before that pick. They dont have an issue with not trading, they have an issue of not getting what they want, big difference
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    Revisionist History

    "Lamar Jackson IS the cream of this year's QB Crop. If the Browns were not picking #1 he would go #2. As it is, The browns are likely to take Rosen, at that point whether by trade or just taking the pick they have, Barkley will go #2. Just as I said Trubisky was the player of the 2017 draft, so too, is Barkley in the 2018 draft. If the Browns pass on Jackson and Barkley, they will again have one of the worst drafts since they wasted a #1 on do-nothing Joe Thomas. It is hard to predict how the QBs will go, because the Browns, who pick #1, are likely to again make a fukcked up choice that throws the true order of players into a ball of chaos. HOWEVER......................... here is the proper rating of the 2018 QBs Lamar Jackson Josh Rosen ( THe Browns will fukck this up and take him first) Baker Mayfield Sam Darnold Then “They need to take next year's #1, which will be greatly over-valued, make available for trade Myles Garret, Joe Thomas and Corey Colesore. In that concoction,they needto emergewiththe #1, #2 and #s 4or 5. 1 Barkley 2 QB of choice, I like Mayfield 4-5 Calvin Ridley” Then “I said all along, I would take Baker.My comments about Lamar Jackson, if you have ever read any of my posts, should standout as obvious, over-the-top parody. Lamar Jackson is Black Tarkenton. He is schidt. He is RG3, He is Cam Newton, Donovan McNabb, Kordell Stewart, Deshone Kizer, and all the other run-first QBs who have flopped. My comment saying the Browns should take him................. was meant as a "yeah, fukc yeah, take another black Tarkenton, by all means, fukck up another draft. I DO want the Browns to take him.............. so I can laugh my fat Ukrainian American butt off at the Browns again.” I won’t go through what he is saying NOW. I think it proves either he just doesn’t remember the things he says, is just a troll, or just likes contradicting himself.
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    Revisionist History

    Heard during draft that Bills tried to trade up with them but the price was too steep. They also said the Bills had a deal in place to trade with Denver that was worked on all day, but when Chubb was there at 5, Denver pulled out to select Chubb
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    Revisionist History

    Dont want this to turn into some big rant and even less want to see a profane response. But it seems as though some people just want to whine about something no matter what. It's quite sad. 1st we get the most infamous poster. To his credit, he has said Barkley was the top player. But that is where the compliments end. 1st- it was said Lamar Jackson was head and shoulders above the QBs. Then he turns around and said he was joking and only saying what the Browns WILL do, and that is getting a Black Tarkenton. At this time he said Baker Mayfield was the hands down top QB. Now that the 1st round is over and the Browns drafted Baker, and Ravens drafted Lamar, all of a sudden Baker isn't the best QB and Lamar is a good QB again. All that really says is that in no way would some people be happy. I had Baker 3rd for Cleveland. I would have had him 2nd for other places. I think Ward was a good pick, and the rest will just have to wait and see. The Browns tried to trade out of 4, but were asking for too much. While my pick at 1 would have been Darnold, and 4 Chubb, the Ward pick makes A LOT of sense. No team ALWAYS looks at BPA, but need as well. 2 years ago Cleveland spent a high pick in 2nd to take Ogbah. While he hasn't been a star, he hasn't been terrible. You use the usable assets that you have. Like I have said many times before, I know a little bit about this, and I would be TERRIBLE at the job. I am a realist and dont need to have a peeing contest and say I'm smarter than you, your dumb, etc. But I would have traded back into 1st for 3 players who fell, Derwin James, Calvin Ridley, and Sony Michel While I may not like Baker Mayfield, he is now a member of the Cleveland Browns so I hope he does extremely well since I am a Browns fan. Good night and God Bless
  15. Gunz41

    How Can/Will The Browns Blow It? Or Not?

    Sorry I haven't posted in awhile guys, but I have noticed a few things here, some good and some bad. I'll just go over some highlights. Ghoolie made a point, and whether you want to look at it as good/bad is your call. Barkley coming from Penn State doesn't matter for his production, BUT there are schools who are known for quality positions, not all to do with the player, but the COACHING. Penn State is known as LB U, and Wisconsin turns out great OL. Then there are schools who just turn out great players, such as Alabama, Ohio State, USC, etc. There are 4 guys who are looked at as top QB prospects, I have no clue who will be the best, but I think the safest pick is Darnold, and biggest boom or bust is Allen. You guys have to give Ghoolie credit, he has now said 3 QBs, meaning he is either easing up a bit or covering his bases. I don't mind Ghoolie, and he wont admit it, but he has mentioned in past 3 different QB as top, Jackson, Baker, Rosen. But I HAVE to get after you Ghoolie for your last statement. Saying it doesn't matter how Barkley pans out as he is consensus top player so they aren't making a mistake. Last year, Garrett was even higher consensus top player and that was wrong? Whether you like Garrett or Barkley is a moot point for your argument, for THAT argument, you CANT have it both ways. Hope everyone enjoys the draft tomorrow. God Bless
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