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About Gunz41

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    Coaching, Football, Cleveland Browns,Ohio St and Virginia Tech in football, UNC in basketball, LA Lakers, Playing Pool

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  1. Gunz41

    Am I the only one who...

    What do you want this education on? I cant give you specific examples of a big hit that didnt result in a concussion. How about the year Clowney had that hit? That player didn't get a concussion. It just depends on the person. It isnt about the hardness of contact, it is about how it effects the brain. You can get a concussion falling out of bed, I could get a concussion biting down too hard ( compression and shock), they make mouthguards now that are specifically designed to side in helping with concussions. It can be something as simple as a helmet being too tight or too loose. There are also more concussions annually in soccer than football.
  2. Gunz41

    Am I the only one who...

    Honestly its pretty sad to see some question something when they dont understand how it could occur. The impact of a hit is not how you get a concussion. In fact, A LOT of these big hits you see do not conclude in one. Dont like a player, sure everyone has those. But dont try to impugn his character and call him a quitter because it didnt "look" bad and you dont know how they occur
  3. Gunz41

    BROWNS WIN

    Sorry for your loss. Prayers to everyone. God Bless
  4. Gunz41

    Baker time

    You must be really miserable to call people you dont know trash. You really are embarrassing yourself with nasty comments like that.
  5. Gunz41

    Josh Gordon Traded to Pats

    Care to make a bet? I'm sure not as you wouldn't for your last man crush THE GREATEST EVER Barkley. Hmm, the last 3 years, both Gordon and Barkley have accounted for 0 wins in the NFL. TRANSFORMATIVE TALENT RIGHT THERE. No money, either the mods change the name or loser leaves. Care to take a bet that he isnt worth 2 1st rounders after the season?
  6. Gunz41

    Josh Gordon Traded to Pats

    Alright now fellas. Let's put it in a way that is easy to understand. Again, I am one of the ones who has stood up for the man. 180 Receptions, 3,106 Yards, 16 TDs. That is an average of 29.4 catches, 507.1 Yards, and 2.94 TDs That is what he produced while on the Cleveland Browns. That cant be disputed. There is a difference in talent and potential vs actual reliance and production. I already KNOW what you guys will say, his averages are way higher than that. Yes, in the games he actually played in they are, but you CANNOT leaves those others out. Not when he is your best player and not reliable. Or let's just forget the statistical numbers. Something NOBODY can even try to refute. 41 Games played, 98 Games he has been a Cleveland Brown. 41.8% of the games. Again, I couldn't care less if anyone is a player guy. Even rose colored glasses for those players. But overlooking things when it doesnt support your argument is being disingenuous. I do not believe that ANYONE on here has said that Mr. Gordon wasnt extremely talented. But aside from the fact of all the problems, NOBODY knows what he is at this point in his career. In his last 6 games played: 19 receptions, 352 Yards, 2 TD. OR 3.167 Receptions, 58.67 Yards, .33 TDs. I would almost guarantee that if another receiver put up those numbers you would be saying he isnt doing good, but because Josh has so much talent and he was great 5 Years ago, you give him a pass. Or let's compare, one WR that MOST think has a horrendous season last year and just retired, Eric Decker. He also played hurt, and showed up and was reliable. Last 6 Games: 23 Receptions, 260 Yards, 0 TDs Or how about someone most have never heard of Adam Humphries. So he obviously doesnt equate the the TALENT/POTENTIAL of JG. He only started 1 of those last 6 games. 26 Receptions, 292 Yards, 1 TD
  7. Gunz41

    Josh Gordon Traded to Pats

    You are missing the point my man. Again I cant help but look at it from coaches view. He is the most talented player on the team, you are obviously going to have a big plan for him. If it were something that didnt happen often, you can overlook it. But constantly not being able to trust him has worn thin. And I am not one of the guys who dislikes him. As you stated, and I agree he was super talented, so he can't just be easily replaced in the plans. At some point, everything accumulating just gets to be too much. You simply cannot trust Josh Gordon the football player to be a consistent presence. No matter how good a player is, he is worth nothing to a team who cannot rely on him. So now he doesnt need to be factored into the planning, and maybe they will get someone who can actually be relied upon even with less numbers. I know it is frustrating when you lose that talent, but I am also quite sure you have seen the superstar athlete from High School who for some reason or another didn't make it past High School. As for Kendicks. That was a HORRIBLE example. Just because he was on a SB team doesnt mean he is great. Everyone in the NFL is great, but comparable to others not so much. There is also the fact that he will be gone soon because of his legal troubles. Again, it is not always about acquiring the best talent (if he were one). It is about getting the best cumulative team and trying to sustain that. For some teams, a player who wont be in the future may work, the teams who think they can compete right now. For others, those are not the type of player you want. You want to see what you have to build upon the future. Let's put it this way. Do you think that it would be a great idea for Buffalo, either NY team, Cleveland Arizona to go out and get Leveon Bell. Those teams are NOT Super Bowl contenders, and thus without a guarantee for him to be there in the future, you are preventing reps/experience for the guys who will be there in the future. That also points to the part about it being about more than just talent. Giants have Bell and Barkley, 2 great talents, yet it would not help them reach the ultimate goal. It may actually hurt them, take away from Barkley, and when Bell starts complaining or pulling his whining, it may hurt the chemistry and locker room. So back to Gordon, maybe there was an issue with the chemistry and locker room from his actions.
  8. Gunz41

    Josh Gordon Traded to Pats

    No not exactly, but you sure seemed to imply that talent means everything. I am just showing you how absurd it is that talent is the only factor. But let's take a different approach, since you and others seem to keep looking at it just on talent. Say you are paired with someone for a project at work. The smartest guy in the company. You make this presentation that requires both of you to execute it. On the day of the presentation, he doesnt show up. And it has happened multiple times in the past. In fact, him being a part of it effects your job rating and could cost you your job. When the next presentation comes up, are you going to tell the boss you want to work with the really smart guy again and take a chance since he is so smart, even though time and time again he couldn't be relied upon?
  9. Gunz41

    Josh Gordon Traded to Pats

    Alright, you obviously aren't going to listen to anything anybody says. Which is fine. Then what a team needs to do is in the draft take the top 5 LT available, 3 slot receivers, and then sign the top 5 DEs. Since it is ALL about talent, play all 5 along the line, put 2 of the slots out wide, and run a 4-3 with 4 DE and 1 at MLB. Since the pass rusher is 2nd most important position, having 5 out there is the best call right
  10. Gunz41

    Josh Gordon Traded to Pats

    Ahh, I thought I watched the Super Bowl, I guess I didnt since apparently Kendricks won the game for them. I actually have zero problem with you liking certain players. And even less problem with looking at a player for his talent level. That is what fans do. Me, while I try to remember to think of the man first and try not to I look at it with a coaches eyes, which isnt nearly as fun. But what I dont understand, not like I have a real problem with it, is overvaluing players and just completely talking bad about a team you supposedly like. It's just like saying Barkley was the best ever, and now so much about Gordon. They have A LOT of talent, but Barkley cant single handedly win a game (which has been shown), and Gordon cant be relied upon. Yes he played a few games last year, and the 1st game this year. Before that it had been over 2 years, and then he misses last week. So in the coaches mind, whether a great or terrible coach, has designs on prep that they put in. And you said how much better he is than the others, which is true, but exactly how do you replace what you have worked on all week when he suddenly cant play, whether 1 game or the year? Unfortunately, things arent always on who has the most talent. There are a whole lot of other things to consider
  11. Gunz41

    Josh Gordon Traded to Pats

    I see that as over projecting. So in your estimation there, you not only have 1 good QB, but 3. Good QBs dont just come along, so thinking you have 3 seems off to me.
  12. Gunz41

    Josh Gordon Traded to Pats

    They get back a 7th.
  13. Gunz41

    Josh Gordon Traded to Pats

    You couldn't care less that he is gone from the Browns, you are just mad that he went to the Patriots. As in if he does get keep his life in order, just one more player to make them even better than the Steelers. When Brady is gone, well when Ben is gone the Steelers have no answer either. Now you got the Jags to deal with too, oh wait, you couldn't deal with them very well last year either
  14. Gunz41

    Josh Gordon Traded to Pats

    A joke ehhhh. Maybe go cheer for your little pets, McCoy, Hogan, Haden, Gordon, or the latest Barkley. All that best ever talent has equated to a worse record than those Joke Browns
  15. Gunz41

    Josh Gordon Traded to Pats

    I'm sure I wont. Heck, I am almost positive I wont on any of the real reason this post was about (Gordon), yet I really want to see a reply about the other stuff. The "they are mean to me, they whine to the owner" If I own it, I will remove them. All it is from what I read is he wants the board to be all about him. I'll bet that IF he did purchase it, it wouldn't be the Browns board anymore. Heck how could it be, according to the new owner, they arent the Browns
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