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  1. The First-pick Draft game thread

    Allen is a pretty nice player
  2. The First-pick Draft game thread

    We've been bad for so long that we start to look at the numbers. Of course the numbers say we're bad, we're playing bad. Plugging in someone with good numbers is not going to make us better, it's going to make that players good numbers look bad. Forget the numbers. Play better and fix the numbers. We need to get our piss and vinegar back.
  3. The First-pick Draft game thread

    The good new is all these guys can flex out to WR and can catch... and get Yac. So you could have 3 backs in the backfield and they could ALL shift out to WR and Become a 5 WR set without a hitch. If we can stay on the field and convert 3rd down and shorts all game, we're going to need a lot of runners. The other teams D better get their cardio up lol
  4. Todd Haley

    -OR- Could you imagine what Haley could do with a dedicated weapon and character guy, a leader by example and someone who is just scratching the surface of what's there? ... yeah, I'm talking about Saquon Barkley. If Haley can make Bell's dumb azz that good, imagine a player like SB and an All-Pro Offensive line with weapons at QB and WR?
  5. The First-pick Draft game thread

    Kizer and Higgins -We're going to need them because we fittin to RUN! A lot.
  6. The First-pick Draft game thread

    Hogan/Mayfield/Kizer Barkley/Johnson/Chubb/Hines Njoku/DeValve/Flowers Gordon/St.Brown/Coleman/CobbsJr./Higgins Thomas/Bitonio/Price/Tretter/Zeitler/Coleman/Drango
  7. The First-pick Draft game thread

    Your Picks:Round 1 Pick 1: Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State - Franchise runner, defensive nightmare, unstoppable unless he wants to be- and then it's on a dime.Round 1 Pick 4: Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma - One of the most electric and successful college QB I've seen since Kevin Hogan, playmaker that gets it to playmakers. Accurate.Round 2 Pick 1: Equanimeous St. Brown, WR, Notre Dame - A true to life #2 WR with #1 potential. A great kid with amazing hands. Huge frame like Gordon. Faster than fast.Round 2 Pick 3: Billy Price, C/OG, Ohio State - An absolute monster, plugging Price into the C spot makes the OL a running game machine. Brains AND Brawn. Round 2 Pick 31: Duke Dawson, CB, Florida - Scrappy azz all get out. Duke Dawson? C'mon, that name though, can't be a coincidence Round 3 Pick 1: Nick Chubb, RB, Georgia - Yeah, I know we have Barkley, but he's the best player on the board and we can use him to get the dirty yards(don't ding the lamborgini)Round 4 Pick 1: Simmie Cobbs Jr., WR, Indiana - Yeah we got our Saint earlier but too much talent here, gonna need a lot of bodies because the offensive yards are going to kill. Round 4 Pick 23: Holton Hill, CB, Texas - Hill is a mountain. 6-3 corner with 4.5 speed- could come in very handy covering these bigger WRs and TEs. Round 5 Pick 1: Daniel Carlson, K, Auburn - Gonzo needs competition and Carlson is a great kicker and a good kid. May the best man kick.Round 5 Pick 22: Nyheim Hines, RB, North Carolina State - ANOTHER RB? Yes, with Crow gone we'll have RBs- Barkley/Johnson/Chubb and Hines. Never seen a stable like this.Round 6 Pick 1: Dimitri Flowers, FB, Oklahoma - Baker Mayfield's swiss army knife. Round 7 Pick 1: Kentavius Street, DT, North Carolina State - Just an absolute monster next to Shelton on the DL. Your Future Picks: 2019 Round 1 Pick2020 Round 1 Pick - Give me this draft and I'll give you the Playoffs.
  8. The First-pick Draft game thread

    I have Marcus Allen early to mid second round.
  9. Camp Barkley #1 Overall

    This was a good read from that earlier link. Pretty humorous about the beetle and Bosa! That tickled~ -------------------------------------------------------------------- https://www.theringer.com/2017/9/29/16384752/saquon-barkley-penn-state-nittany-lions-highlights "..."-Good news, Saquon: You have the ball! Bad news: You probably shouldn’t. In this 2015 clash with Ohio State, your team would rather not attempt to block Joey Bosa, who would go on to be the no. 3 overall pick in the 2016 NFL draft and win the Defensive Rookie of the Year award. So your coach has called an option in the hopes that your quarterback can eliminate Bosa from the play by making the right read. Unfortunately, he makes the wrong read and hands you the ball with Bosa looming 2 yards away. What are you to do? There’s a bug called the Tiger Beetle, the second-fastest insect in the world. It runs so fast in comparison with its body size that it essentially goes blind while running; its bug brain is unable to interpret all the information its eyes capture. To see, it has to stop running every few seconds. This is not a problem for Barkley, who jukes perhaps the best defender in college football and then hops over a 6-foot-3 defender about 1.5 seconds later. I’m glad Bosa managed to embark on a successful NFL career so soon after Barkley broke his ankles. "..." ------------------- That was some good stuff. Hey, Kevin Hogan is a boss, I'm still riding with him.
  10. Are you all so sure Kizer can't be your QB?

    I don't know about Kizer but I still think Hogan has something to prove. This will be his 3rd season, he's going to learn a lot from the little bit of time he was able to get in last year. I expect him to make a huge leap this offseason. Rooting for him.
  11. The First-pick Draft game thread

    Is Marcus Allen comparable to Minkah Fitzpatrick?
  12. The First-pick Draft game thread

    I bolded the agreed upon selections. Suggestions- 1- Barkley 4- Mayfield Note- It sucks that the Eagles kept winning. That 2nd has quickly became a sub-3rd rounder. It's almost like having 2 firsts, 2 seconds and 2 thirds now.
  13. Camp Barkley #1 Overall

    Ah, sheet, this is probably really crazy and funny! I will check it out soon, but here it is now... What is going on?! The Story of Saquon Barkley, Told Through 26 Defenders Who Failed to Tackle Him Penn State’s star playmaker doesn’t just beat opponents. He busts out moves that other running backs wouldn’t even dream of attempting. By Rodger Sherman Sep 29, 2017, 12:25pm EDT Share More Getty Images/Ringer illustration Saquon Barkley is the nation’s best football player at humiliating opponents. We can focus on his statistics—he leads the FBS with 1,013 all-purpose yards—or his Heisman Trophy hype—Vegas gives him the best odds of anyone to win the 2017 award right now. But no numbers or accolades can summarize Barkley. Much like the Road Runner with Wile E. Coyote, he does more than simply outrun those trying to catch him. Barkley’s entertainment value comes from his ability to lure defenders off cliffs, turn their malfunctioning Acme products against them, and convince them to sprint into landscapes that turn out to be elaborately detailed frescoes. To fully appreciate what makes Penn State’s junior running back so special, it’s necessary to understand what it’s like to try to tackle him. For that, let’s go to 26 defenders who thought they could bring down no. 26. 1. Joshua Jackson, Cornerback, Iowa 2. Amani Hooker, Safety, Iowa There’s a split-second when a defender attempting to tackle Barkley thinks he has everything figured out, like a toddler manning a claw machine and hovering over a toy he wants. In this play from the third quarter of Penn State’s 21-19 win over Iowa last Saturday, Jackson sprints up to meet Barkley and sees the Nittany Lions standout charging directly at him. A-ha, Jackson might have thought. My sheer speed has closed down the nation’s best running back. But as Jackson extends his arm wide and winds his body into a springlike coil, Barkley leaps. The Hawkeyes’ 6-foot-1, 185-pound cornerback bursts forward into nothingness. Jackson floats, powerless, braced for contact with a player who has passed him by. Still, that’s not even the most remarkable part of this play. As Barkley vaults over Jackson, Hooker hits Barkley with everything he’s got, right in the thigh. At this point, it should be easy to take Barkley down—just a simple boop in the lower body, and Barkley should be unable to regain his balance. Only Barkley brushes off Hooker’s hit like it’s nothing, gyroscoping his legs back to the ground before steaming past the first-down marker. I knew cats were capable of regaining their balance in mere milliseconds as they fell; I guess Nittany Lions can do that, too. 3. Christian Heyward, Defensive Tackle, San Diego State 4. J.J. Whittaker, Safety, San Diego State 5. Damontae Kazee, Cornerback, San Diego State 6. Na’im McGee, Safety, San Diego State The spin move is not Barkley’s favorite, but he used it twice in one half during a 37-21 win over San Diego State his freshman year. First, he shakes off a would-be tackle by Heyward, then uses his momentum to spin past Whittaker, who crumples to his knees in defeat. In the next quarter, Barkley spins away from a potential hit from Kazee. Now a junior, Barkley seems to think two or three moves ahead. He wasn’t as seasoned in 2015, and this spin move brings him right into McGee’s path. But even as a freshman, Barkley was a physical monster. And he drops McGee effortlessly. Barkley moved from New York City to small-town Pennsylvania when he was 5. He wasn’t a highly heralded recruit at first, committing to Rutgers. Rutgers! But his stature quickly rose, as he became a four-star recruit and flipped to Penn State, a decision that led to what might be the funniest tweet in college football beat writer history. Barkley torched the Scarlet Knights for 195 yards in just his third college game, becoming a freshman All-American. 7. Joey Bosa, Defensive End, Ohio State 8. Tyvis Powell, Safety, Ohio State Good news, Saquon: You have the ball! Bad news: You probably shouldn’t. In this 2015 clash with Ohio State, your team would rather not attempt to block Joey Bosa, who would go on to be the no. 3 overall pick in the 2016 NFL draft and win the Defensive Rookie of the Year award. So your coach has called an option in the hopes that your quarterback can eliminate Bosa from the play by making the right read. Unfortunately, he makes the wrong read and hands you the ball with Bosa looming 2 yards away. What are you to do? There’s a bug called the Tiger Beetle, the second-fastest insect in the world. It runs so fast in comparison with its body size that it essentially goes blind while running; its bug brain is unable to interpret all the information its eyes capture. To see, it has to stop running every few seconds. This is not a problem for Barkley, who jukes perhaps the best defender in college football and then hops over a 6-foot-3 defender about 1.5 seconds later. I’m glad Bosa managed to embark on a successful NFL career so soon after Barkley broke his ankles. 9. Adekunle Ayinde, Safety, Minnesota Penn State ran one play against Minnesota in overtime of last season’s matchup. It takes about 3.5 seconds for Barkley to get past the first 10 Golden Gophers defenders. Ayinde, the last man standing in his path, needs to do something to save the game. Instead, he briefly taps Barkley with his left hand. It was a good try. This 29-26 victory sparked a nine-game Nittany Lions winning streak that culminated in the program’s first Big Ten title since 2008. Barkley averaged 168.8 rushing yards per game in the next four games, and scored 12 total touchdowns during the streak. 10. Ryan Williamson, Safety, Buffalo 11. V’Angelo Bentley, Cornerback, Illinois 12. Will Likely III, Cornerback, Maryland Some say that hurdling should be made illegal in college and pro football, as it already is in the high school game. The argument is that the move is too dangerous. If a player miscalculates his jump and clips an opponent’s helmet or shoulder, that player is likely to fall face first toward the ground, risking serious head and neck injuries. I say football should ban hurdles for everybody but Barkley. Each of these defenders tries to go low on Barkley. Each fails, done in by Barkley’s ability to rise up 5 feet in less than a second. Barkley can reportedly run a sub-4.4-second 40-yard dash, which isn’t unique among running backs. What is unique is his strength. Barkley’s squat videos have become stuff of legend, and he broke a Penn State program power-clean record last year. (That means he power-cleaned more than the linemen, who are much bigger than Barkley is.) Many running backs possess the ability to go fast. Few possess the strength to change direction as quickly as Barkley does. This is why defenders keep tackling the air to the left of Barkley, to the right of Barkley, and most notably, below Barkley. 13. Uchenna Nwosu, Linebacker, USC 14. Marvell Tell III, Safety, USC 15. Ajene Harris, Cornerback, USC 16. Chris Hawkins, Safety, USC 17. Porter Gustin, Linebacker, USC 18-24: Assorted Other Hopeless USC Defenders The highlight of Barkley’s career to this point came in January’s Rose Bowl against USC, on a touchdown that brought Barkley from the left hash mark at Penn State’s 21-yard line to the left corner of the end zone. The scorebook says this was a 79-yard touchdown run, but watch the clip: He ran about 150 yards and left roughly half of USC’s roster on its knees. Penn State wasn’t expected to be in the Rose Bowl last season. But thanks to Barkley and TB Trace McSorley—I’ve decided that McSorley’s position is “ThrowBro” instead of quarterback, please use the TB abbreviation from here on out—the Nittany Lions made it happen. And now, with both players thriving in 2017, they have their sights on the College Football Playoff. 25. Manny Rugamba, Cornerback, Iowa 26. Josey Jewell, Linebacker, Iowa Sometimes we think about football too much like it’s a video game, with one player in charge of the controls, figuring out how best to deal with 21 automatons. We forget to assign intelligence to any player other than the quarterback, when in fact every play represents a symphony of decision-making. Every football position requires reaction and awareness, a mental aspect that some players have and others don’t. This is especially apparent with running backs. The best ones are often described as having great “vision,” a term that refers to a player’s reactive ability to detect openings amid a frenzied, fluctuating mass of bodies. Interpreting a wealth of information instantaneously and diagnosing the correct course of action is an immensely difficult mental skill; calling it “vision” makes it sound like a physical trait. Yes, Barkley’s freakish strength and agility and balance make him an excellent running back. He’d pick up first downs even if he just used his speed to beeline for the sideline or his power to bowl over defenders. But what sets him apart is his ability to outfox opponents. He doesn’t merely try to beat defenders down the field; he lures them into going someplace that he won’t be. It’s not merely reactive. It’s body chess. Barkley is the only person who can pull off the moves he makes, and few other running backs could even think of doing what he does. On this play against Iowa, Barkley heads toward the sideline, which hypothetically should make things simpler for the Hawkeyes defenders. They don’t have to drag Barkley down; they just have to get one of his feet to land out of bounds. And Iowa is well positioned to stop him: Rugamba and Jewell have bracketed the running back, with the former trailing and the latter coming from the side. Barkley, for all intents and purposes, is trapped. Barkley realizes there is one small window of time and space he can access to keep his run alive. He needs to outrun Rugamba and stop on a dime to avoid Jewell. So that’s what he does, delivering a highlight that looks like a choreographed fight scene in a kung fu movie. Rugamba flails at Barkley’s cleats; Jewell goes flying out of bounds; and Barkley, who coordinated it all in a matter of seconds, instantly regains his momentum as if none of this ever happened. And it wasn’t the last time in this game that Barkley would dance past Jewell. For most running backs, attempting to engage Jewell in this scenario would be a dumb play. The Iowa linebacker was a preseason first-team All-American. Barkley’s decision risked a potential loss of yardage as the clock ticked toward zero. But Barkley is not most running backs. He assessed the situation and realized that he could get a first down and get out of bounds, even with one of the best defenders in the nation squared up a few yards away. If Barkley hadn’t done this, Penn State might have lost. All these defenders thought they could tackle Saquon Barkley. But Saquon Barkley knew that they couldn’t. Watching him reveal how they’ll fail is my favorite thing in college football. https://www.theringer.com/2017/9/29/16384752/saquon-barkley-penn-state-nittany-lions-highlights --------------------------------------- There's a link to the website but all this talking about stats doesn't measure up to eyewitness testimony big dawg. I still love ya though man, still love all you guys. Just saying, this is the guy that is going to save the day... And convince you he's worth being the first #1 Overall Draft Pick in a long, long time.
  14. Camp Barkley #1 Overall

    Ah, my favorite quote of them all- Marcus Allen- "Saquon's a dog. That is simply what it is. Saquon's a dog, and dogs do dog things." We need him here, he's a leader that the pack can follow. He'll do anything for his team. If he gets the rest of the guys to play with his intensity, he'd be worth the 1st and 4th pick because imaging Coleman and Gordon raising their intensity. Imagine Barkley behind an NFL offensive line- If his line was better he could have had even more yards. Often on a 5 yard carry, he'll have already made 4 or 5 guys miss.
  15. Camp Barkley #1 Overall

    http://www.centredaily.com/sports/college/penn-state-university/psu-football/article192828629.html I couldn't copy the article but here's a link. It's pretty incredible to see for yourself the litany of quotes from players, coaches and media about Saquon. Guys like Urban Meyer saying carefully that Barkley is the most talented all purpose running back in the last 30 years!
  16. Camp Barkley #1 Overall

    What is Barkley's "Missed tackle number"? - Or how many player has he made miss?
  17. Camp Barkley #1 Overall

    I don't know what stat you are talking about here. You're saying that if you take out the big plays he makes, then he's just as good as a player like Crowell? What about when he makes guys miss on 3rd down to move the chains? Or the receiving yards? Or the kickoff returns? Do you get extra points for 3rd downs or picking up blocks? What are the rules in this game you want to play? Which stat are you ultimately judging this player by? Are all runningbacks that you judge scrutinized by the same measure? What are a player like Adrian Peterson's numbers like in comparison to Barkley's numbers, with and then without whatever stat or numbers your using to rank these guys? What I do is much simpler- I use my eyes and intuition to "see" what I can see. You can play or you can't play. I see Barkley as a special talent. If I was a captain and I'm picking teams, with my first pick I'm pointing at Barkley- I'm going to win if I get this guy. Have you ever went to a basketball park at night and played pick up games under the lights? You learn things. A stat is just an attempt to systematically describe what transpired. But we all know that games aren't played by the numbers, the numbers come after the act. If we draft Barkley- who is the best playmaker on the team. Who are you giving the ball to on the first play? Who are you giving the ball to on the last play to win the game?
  18. Camp Barkley #1 Overall

    Who is going to be the best player on the team if we draft Saquon? Josh Gordon vs Saquon Barkley
  19. Camp Barkley #1 Overall

    From the Browns website... http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-5/Mock-Draft-Roundup-Mel-Kiper-Jr-other-draft-analysts-make-their-1st-projections-for-Browns/4529d810-34ae-4bb5-bc8e-8db79ec1f694 Look at the common denominator in ALL these mock drafts... Different QBs taken #1, different QBs taken #4, some don't even draft a QB... Look Barkley is there is almost ALL of them, take the RB #1 and take the QB next. Potentially, only 1 QB will be taken from picks 2 and 3. That leaves ALL the other QBs there for the taking. Read it for yourself. Mel Kiper Jr. - ESPN.com 1. QB Josh Allen (Wyoming) 4. RB Saquon Barkley (Penn State) Of note: Allen is drawing a lot of attention because of his ideal measurables (6-5, 222) and his diverse skill set. He’ll have a big opportunity to showcase himself at next week’s Senior Bowl. Matt Miller - Bleacher Report 1. QB Sam Darnold (USC) 4. Barkley Of note: There was, perhaps, no bigger of a big-play threat in college football last year than Barkley, who averaged nearly 6 yards a carry and more than 11 on receptions. He also returned two kicks for touchdowns. Bryan Fischer - Athlon Sports 1. Barkley 4. Josh Rosen (UCLA) Of note: In this scenario, the Browns would be taking the second quarterback in the draft, as Fischer projects the Giants, who hold the No. 2 pick, to take Darnold. Chris Trapasso - CBSSports.com 1. Darnold 4. OT Orlando Brown (Oklahoma) Of note: Brown is the son of the former Browns offensive lineman with the same name. The Browns haven’t used a first-round pick on an offensive tackle since Joe Thomas in 2007. Eric Galko - Sporting News 1. Darnold 4. Barkley Of note: If the projection holds, Darnold would be the fourth USC quarterback selected in the top 10 since 2003. Josh Norris - Rotoworld 1. Darnold 4. Barkley Of note: Norris has just one other running back going in the first round (LSU’s Derrius Guice at No. 20). Walter Cherepinsky - WalterFootball.com 1. Barkley 4. DB Minkah Fitzpatrick (Alabama) Of note: Fitzpatrick, a three-year starter for the Crimson Tide, did a little bit of everything for one of the deepest secondaries in the nation. Kiper considers him to be the third-best overall player in the draft. Luke Easterling - USA Today 1. Rosen 4. Fitzpatrick Of note: Rosen started three seasons at UCLA with his best coming this past year, when he threw for 3,756 yards, 26 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. Steve Palazzolo - Pro Football Focus 1. QB Baker Mayfield (Oklahoma) 4. Fitzpatrick Of note: One of the most polarizing prospects in this year’s draft, Mayfield is coming off a banner college career that saw him lead the Sooners twice to the College Football Playoff and win the 2017 Heisman Trophy.
  20. Camp Barkley #1 Overall

    What would it take to trade up from 4 to 2?
  21. Drafting a RB in the Top 10 is...

    Say-what? Saquon! I think your poll is missing a couple of options. You have to look at the PLAYER, not the POSITION.
  22. Camp Barkley #1 Overall

    NY Giants- Biggest need? QB? - RB - OL - LB Huh, you would think that NY, having the opportunity to take one of the two top QBs in the draft would want to jump all over it right? You need to replace Manning right? Nope, NY fans want them to SKIP QB and take the RB... It's been so long since NY had a great runner... yada yada laa.... If Barkley is on the board NY takes him to give Eli the most talented runner in ages. Giving Eli one last run with ODB and Barkley, because even if it doesn't work out- next years crop of QBs is going to be better than this years.... isn't it always Indianapolis Colts- Biggest need? ...Barkley to help Luck... It's funny- the Raiders and Carr's biggest need? Barkley What else is funny? San Francisco's biggest need? Barkley ...we could go on and on... It's because teams know that you draft the best player available, AND the best player available on EVERY teams draft board should have Barkley as the top player. He lead ALL college RBs in receiving yards last season. Let that sink in, you question his rushes or touches or ypa(being sure to cut out his chunk plays) but you conveniently forget to mention his receiving yards and his kickoffs for touchdowns. Hmm. Shmuck taking a QB #1 that will likely be the biggest bust since Johnny Manziel or Brandon Weeden since we're in Cleveland. Take the sure fire runner to compliment your already HIGH investment in Kizer. You also have a great QB in Hogan and the is also FA. Don't worry there is no way that all five of the BIG NAME QBs (who all show up in different top 5 positions, depending on who you ask) will be drafted before we pick at 4. BUT I WILL PROMISE YOU THAT BARKLEY GOES IN THE TOP 3. IT WOULD TAKE A MIRACLE FOR HIM TO BE THERE AT 4. How cool would it be for Cleveland, home of the run game, to make a statement and say, we're going to run the ball by taking RB #1 overall? We need a Vickers type FB now, unless you guys think Vitale can do it as good...
  23. Camp Barkley #1 Overall

    Are you not listening to me? If we take Barkley at 1- Do you really think that NY is going to pick a QB #2 when they have Eli Manning? If so which one? Then secondly, say they pick Rosen or Donald, Do you think that the Colts will draft the other one? They need to help out their #1 overall QB Andrew Luck. If we take Barkley will they go OT or RB, or do they go defense? Do you think they need to take a QB #3 Overall? So then we're up, there are 5 QBs on the Board. Rosen/Donald, Mayfield, Allen, Jackson, Rudolph. So your telling me that the one you want is not in that group? It happens to be the ONE QB that MAYBE the Giants take? Make no mistake both the Giants and the Colts want Barkley to help their QB. The fact that 31 other teams covet the guy and could make a case to trade up to take him has merit enough for me to take notice. You guys should too. QB Class- Mayfield, Darnold, Rosen, Allen, Jackson, Rudolph RB Class- Barkley then there is a HUGE dropoff to everyone else. If you asked different people, even NFL scouts- Which QB in this Class is the Best you're going to get 5 different answers... Ask the same people who the best RB is and you don't get the same thing. It's really that simple. Putting "NEED" in quotation marks was to show that we are going to use the #1 on NEED instead of taking the best player. I'm sorry if you don't agree.
  24. Camp Barkley #1 Overall

    Do you see where I'm going with this? Don't be so blinded by our "need" at QB to where we go and shoot ourselves in the foot.
  25. Camp Barkley #1 Overall

    Player Yr School Pos Proj Day Baker Mayfield rSr Oklahoma QB 1 Chase Litton Jr Marshall QB 2 Josh Allen rJr Wyoming QB 1 Kurt Benkert rSr Virginia QB 3 Lamar Jackson Jr Louisville QB 2 Luke Falk rSr Washington State QB 2 Mason Rudolph Sr Oklahoma State QB 1 Matt Linehan rSr Idaho QB 3 Riley Ferguson Sr Memphis QB 3 Sam Darnold rSo Southern California QB 1 Say what? Say the Browns take Barkley #1 Overall... Say the Giants take Frozen Rosen. So when the Colts are up, here are all the QBs still on the board. Is your guy at QB still here? Are the Colts going to take one of these guys and sit him behind Luck, #3 Overall? I didn't think so either.