On 12/19/2021 at 3:32 AM, MLD Woody said:

No? -> You agree with AOC

Yes? -> You agree with Pelosi

 

 

Where do our MAGA people stand? Real interested in seeing the responses...

 

This should be one we all agree on, right?

I don’t believe so. Too much influence 

On 12/4/2021 at 7:22 AM, Westside Steve said:

But if it's so deadly and widespread why do some of the guys get all snotty when I suggest that they should be much more stringent about the practice? For instance we know that it gets into the lungs and the eyes. So what I suggest everyone also wear a face shield and change the double layer mask often during the day sanitize their hands every time they touch anything they get pissed off at me? Or even stay home and get your s*** delivered? Because it's basically a symbol.

WSS

 

I believe you know the answer to those questions, if you’re being honest.

What keeps getting glossed over is the Raiders stink

7 minutes ago, hammertime said:

Because an honest survey would show they are way ahead of the vaccinated crowd.

its common sense.

now if

your rolling the dice with neither the jab or previous COVID-19 just remember how fatal this virus is……99.93% recovery rate.

Yeah it’s just like the flu that kills 350,000 Americans a year, oh wait. Shit no it doesn’t. Guess I better drop that talking point.

2 hours ago, DieHardBrownsFan said:

I'm sure if someone is religious to that extent, they wouldn't be getting an abortion either.

I’m pretty sure that many abortions are performed on religious people.  The concern is access. A Roman Catholic minor may not have access to contraception  but some states still allow minors to obtain abortions without parental consent 

I wear it in every public setting except for my gym.  The gym is probably the place I’m must susceptible so I get the contradiction.  However, I’m fully vaccinated and boosted 

20 hours ago, Vambo said:

Birth Control

Birth control is how you prevent pregnancy. There are lots of different birth control options out there. We’re here to help you figure it all out.

Pick what’s important to you to find your best birth control method:

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/birth-control

Birth control is not allowed for many religions. Are you saying that we should a ignore persons religious freedom? 

18 hours ago, Westside Steve said:

So you're  on board  with my proposal  to sterilize  the poor?  Might help  stave  off the Biden depression. 

🧑‍🎄

WSS 

100 percent behind it but their are a few religions where contraception is not allowed.

The decision to gut Roe will only hurt my bank account as taxes will need to be increased for Foster Care, Food Stamps, Medicaid, TANF, Teachers, Child Care, etc.. 

Global market. Add supply price goes down. Pretty simple

 

I don't think the Browns offer a $40 mill a year contract. $20, maybe. But top $? No way.

I would think the offer would be $30 per but shorter time frame.

 

For certain populations*

Yes. I wouldn’t not want someone who has been medically advised to not be vaccinated to be forced to.

 

As if there was a choice. You probably know my opinion our Twisted version of democracy. Kind of like student council; sure kids whatever you want unless the principal says otherwise then sit down and shut up. Or showing the vegetarian they have a choice. Beef pork chicken or lamb. 😂

WSS

Tariffs and taxation may have worked but that horse has left the barn.

 

You were the one that went down there "save one life" road. We sacrifice hundreds and thousands of lives to convenience every day.

WSS

 

And concerning vaccination I stand by it. Again, the risk is very close to zero and the benefit is immeasurable.

 

I'm quite aware of that. There is no one single reason for any bad situation. Still one should attempt to mitigate the damage not increasing.

WSS

Completely agree but the largest blow to the American economy has been the facilitation of industrial labor outsourcing. For some reason the politicians who support this are continuously being voted in.

Deserve is a tough word. I tend to agree he doesn’t deserve top money based on his skill set but the question in the NFL is what’s plan B?  QB is the most important and hardest position to procure.

Supply vs Demand.  If you want lower prices you either increase supply or decrease demand. Only options, sorry

Got crushed. The Browns are mediocre but fan expectations are obviously inflated as they typically are. It has been decades since the Browns went an entire season being competitive and winning a high percentage of games against the good teams in the league.

1 win this year against a team that currently has a winning record.

Baker is an average QB, been saying it since day 1. When the offense is running the ball effectively he looks a lot better than he is. 

On 11/10/2021 at 4:57 PM, Westside Steve said:

Probably. But you guys hate Trump for it so...

WSS

Don’t like either

On 11/10/2021 at 5:13 PM, Westside Steve said:

Yes we do have speed limits. You talked about saving one life. Cutting the speed limit in half would save hundreds if not thousands of lives. Apparently you don't really care about saving one life. But maybe you haven't been following me and wasting your time bickering with bamboo. I don't like mandates but I think everybody should get vaccinated even if it does nothing more than make you a less sick if and when you get it. I'm just not as panic ridden as the people on the far left and right of the issue though. In case you haven't seen my position it's that people who participate in dangerous activities* each and every day but are scared shiftless to get vaccinated are.....

Fill in your own descriptive term.

WSS

* including drinking smoking eating meat not exercising being overweight playing violent sports driving fast riding a motorcycle or walking down the street in the South Bronx Chicago or East Cleveland..

I also spoke about measured responses. There is a huge difference between getting a shot and outlawing automobiles. The cost/benefit isn’t remotely relatable. To use your example it would be like asking everyone to drive a gray car if it prevented all motor vehicle deaths.

On 11/11/2021 at 6:16 AM, Westside Steve said:

Yet if horseshoes, for instance, were still a viable product and essential to the economy of any particular state or region and a feeble-minded would be dictator had a whim to destroy that industry I would imagine some would take umbrage and rightfully so.

PS nice job Joe you were able to find a member of one of the smallest minorities in the world, an Asian woman who is not hot whatsoever.

WSS

 

 

New technology replaces inferior ones all the time as well.  

1 minute ago, Westside Steve said:

Didn't realize you were coming at this issue from a standpoint of being he devout Christian but no. It's painful as it may be more people die in auto accidents if they are high speed crashes. How many lives would you save the Nationwide 30 Mi an hour limit? But we don't do it. How about man dating a 40 minute aerobic exercise program at least three times a week? How about we make cigarettes illegal?

Yeah yeah I know...

WSS

But we do have speed limits.  We’ve calculated risk benefits and used science to determine best limits for certain areas. For the vast majority of people he vaccination is a prick and very mild, if any, symptoms. That is the science and the risk benefit calculation. Don’t know what the argument is.

Just now, Vambo said:

So we need to preserve the ones we have...!

I don’t necessarily disagree. If we are being honest we’ve been losing jobs overseas for decades and we continue to elect those who have structured our tax regulations to protect them.

Happens all the time. Not many blacksmiths left in the States.