BaconHound

Urban looking like a fool again. Can’t someone tell him saying nothing is better than trying to side step the lies.

Does Jarvis Landry have a TD reception? Asking for a friend.

Again no one is saying duplicitous talent. Adding Aaron Rodgers to the Patriots makes no sense but adding him to the Browns would have given us at least 6 wins, with nothing else changing. Adding Bell probably would get us 4 or more. You have to get talent to win. Deion Sanders was a me first punk, how many rings? I remember the 90s Cowboys and they didn’t always get along or have choir boys but they had ballers and won a lot. Chemistry helps to win playoff games and even Super Bowls but it ain’t bring wins to Believeland. Garrett is talent. We are all hoping Ward is as well. Other than that nothing else screams super talented. Our RB, WR and QB are all guys who their former team didn’t care to retain. Our D Line are all 2nd and 3rd round picks we are hoping can make a difference. The Browns have stunk for a decade and continue to pick high and we have Garrett who when health seems really good and a rookie. There isn’t enough talent on this team to win even though the sunshine pumpers think every offseason that the Jarvis Landry’s off the world will make the difference. Trading down and trying to out smart everyone else has killed this franchise. They need talent at so many positions that letting it walk out the door for another Seth Devalve isn’t the right plan. And if Dorsey, Hue and Co couldn’t get Gordon on board with giving 110% on Sunday we’ll there is another glaring issue. So to sum up, no talent equals no wins. Some talent equals some wins. Some talent and some chemistry can equal playoff wins and a ton of talent, with or without chemistry, can win championships.

I think it’s apples and oranges. Gordon was one piece among many.

Man oh Man this isn’t that complicated. Gordon cost us next nothing. When he’s on the field we’re better. He is at worst the 2nd best WR on the team. We got next to nothing in return. And to the “change the culture” nonsense our head coach is 1-32-1, what the fu#k does that say about our culture. How many wins does Jimmy Haslam have as an owner? How many years has it been since this team was 7-9? But the culture is changing now that we Gordon is gone, smh. We aren’t any fooking good. If the Browns were a playoff team and there was a chance a relapse could cost us a playoff win I’d be on board but we SUCK. How about we go 2-14 before we talk about the culture of the Browns.

Yeah that’s exactly what I said.

I would not play Mayfield until the running game improves. If you can’t run the ball Baker will be running for his life.

I’m in the “don’t get Baker killed” camp but if I’m trumpeting best man for the job and Baker is better than Tyrod and still sitting, how is that received in the locker room? worse yet f he isn’t better than Taylor, what does that say about him

No there really isn’t. The Jags are better than the Browns because position by position they have more talent. Are there positions that are more important, sure, but don’t fool yourself into thinking culture means more than talent.

Can’t believe Dorsey couldn’t have found a guy working at Lowe’s who kicked semi-professionally in Pakistan

You’re talking to the wall on this one. The love it or leave, cheer for the Browns regardless, Guy has no problem bitching about 1-31 but could care less about fixing it cause he got dem orange jersey to cheer fo each Sunde

The Browns offense isn’t as good right now as it was at 8am this morning. Callaway, Landry and Higgins aren’t as good as Callaway, Landry and Gordon. Gordon had baggage for sure and was an unknown commodity but he has ability that other players on the Browns current roster don’t. Talent wins. Chemistry is a fun concept that winners talk about and losers never have. When the Browns end up 2-14 we can post a thread about what a great atmosphere the team has. Fooking Joke

Thank god we’ve got that stud Higgins

And Josh is clowning us as he goes out the door, typical Browns $hit

To Seahawks. One team gets it.