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  1. Greythan

    Mangini: We're not dealing Quinn

    I think there's no doubt DA gets rid of the ball quickly. Its a strength of his but it probably has counterbalancing weaknesses around completion percentage (holding the ball a bit longer can give receivers time to get open and allow for a deeper progression) and turnovers (staring down the primary).
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    Cribbs on block??

    Cribbs' value to this team goes beyond returning punts/kicks. He's a force on coverage units. He has a 31 yard run from scrimmage. He's a hedge should we look to include WildDawg packages. Finally, and maybe most valuable, is he's a consummate professional. I think that last point is highly valued by EM. I've told the stories before, but here's two on Cribbs that make me a fan for life: - Cribbs was the marquee player to come to the autograph tent at training camp 2 years ago when I had my kids with me. At the time they were 4, 6, and 8. Josh greeted each kid personally with a "Hey little man" or "Hi sweetie" (sons and daughter). Looked them in the eye, and signed their minature footballs. Cribbs just oozed "real". - Mike and Mike had Speilman on their show after the Brandon Marshall drama broke. Speilman had been vocal about how offended he was by Marshall's antics. On Mike and Mike he said somthing to the effect of (paraphrased): "There's a way to go about maximizing your contract and Marshall is not doing it. Look at a guy like Joshua Cribbs in Cleveland. Here's a guy who is clearly underpaid and yet he goes to work every day, plays hard, is an example for his teammates and negotiates in private with the ball club." Cribbs is a keeper.
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    Cribbs on block??

    Can you seriously imagine a 2nd round pick adding as much value to this team as Cribbs? I think the odds of that are not in our favor. Imagine if we'd done this deal in the offseason: we would have traded Cribbs for Robiske. Cough up the big money, and sign Cribbs to a long term deal. This isn't the same as dealing Winslow, Edwards, or even Quinn.
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    The NFL's Most Meaningful Stat

    The passer rating is not something to ignore. Its a statistic so by definition sample size matters. Hence, Chip's analysis. A sample size of 25 or 30 attempts is too small. Find a QB who goes the course of a season and completes 45% of his passes for 4,500 yards, 35 TD's and 10 INT's and you'll have a nice anomoly. Point is, it usually doesn't happen. I believe its because there are only so many big plays that can be completed and that to round it out you MUST complete a high level of passes to keep the chains moving, open up big plays, etc. So, I agree with Z that coaches don't look at the passer rating as the primary indicator of success. However, as Z stated, the things they do look at are heavily factored into the rating: decision making (INT's and completion %), first downs (completion %, total yards), TD's, etc. Net net, if you finish a year with a below average passer rating, most coaches would look at that QB's body of work on film as subpar. They are closely related.
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    "It's a shock to everybody on this team"

    Thanks to Cmac as well. I also came to find a middle ground to discuss with ONB and D&S. But Lum at his worst wasn't simply tolerated, starting a few months back Stan actually starting supporting it. Stan simply has sand in his you-know-what. He wanted a tough guy forum and reveled in watching Lum drum up the natives. Kitchen heat turns his way and blam..... I'm taking my ball and going home. Wow.
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    What Does Everyone Do For A Living?

    Financial services, mid level exec.
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    "It's a shock to everybody on this team"

    Where'd the Z "vent-only-here" thread go btw? Seemed to have disappeared right when the Lum-was-abused thread popped up.
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    "It's a shock to everybody on this team"

    I'm just glad I had the judgement back then to not participate in the ressurected thread at the time. Its really spot on as I have no idea why people reacted so negatively to Lum at that time.
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    The NFL's Most Meaningful Stat

    I think the reason the passer rating resolves itself over time (i.e., good QB's have high ratings) is due to the reality that there are only so many mid to long range passes to be completed. I *think* Lum's argument is something like the following: 12/30 for 300 yards, 3 TD's and 0 INT's could be just as effective as 18/30 for 300 yards, 3 TD's and 0 INT's yet the first QB would have a lower rating. One could see the difference in those two stat lines: bigger plays by the first QB and probably a few more first downs by the second. However, can you really expect a large enough difference in YPC to justify a subpar completion rate? Stated another way, can you complete enough "big" passes week in and week out to maintain effectiveness? Maybe for a game here or there, but I'd argue you can't if for no other reason than you'll get game planned.
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    The NFL's Most Meaningful Stat

    Lum likes yards per completion because it stacks the deck in a favorable way for his purpose. So a QB going 2/20 for 100 yards would rate pretty well because its a whopping 50 YPC when a reasonable person would lament the 15 incompletions as drive stoppers, etc. I think its safe to say that any coach will tell you that a high completion rate is a desirable trait in a QB. That might be why its weighting is what it is.
  11. lol, when I win the first ever $2b lotto and buy the Browns, I'm hiring Alo to at least run my scouting department.
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    Mangini: We're not dealing Quinn

    If we do a deal, I'd love it to be with the 'skins. They'll give us WAY too much for Quinn.
  13. Free agents dont' call reporters for due diligence on a prospective team. They call players they know on that team or connected to that team. If Mangini can get his guys to buy in, we'll do fine in attracting FA's that fit his system.
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    Peter King

    The pessimist view on Kok's quote is he's simply buying time. Seriously, why would he say something like: "Savage did a great job assembling talent for the most part. We're only a few pieces away from being competitive." Even if they believed that (doubtful) they still would say something more like ... well .... what he said.
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    Mangini: We're not dealing Quinn

    I agree with Lum. I've heard nothing to substantiate Quinn asking to be traded, but if he has/does it changes things a bit.
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