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  1. 11 points
    Most of these "castoffs" busted their ass thru 16 games of the worst season in our history. They weren't losers... they were just part of an organization that plotted a path thru losing. They never quit. If that can't earn them an ounce of respect from you, then that's on you.
  2. 10 points
    It's the free-swinging offseason, time for a primer. 1. Don't hit the "report" button if you are offended by something. It goes directly to Kathy and she will have you banned. (I saved two regulars the other day) She doesn't like snitches and complainers. PM Me, Hoorta or Mark. We probably won't care, but we will likely delete the post and any ongoing argument about the post if it is truly offending. If it is not, we will laugh at you. 2. Don't bring your beefs from the political board on to the football board. We don't care about your politics. It all gets deleted anyway, so don't make us work. 3. This is not a heavily moderated board in any way. Enjoy it. We let you act like adults. You can swear, post pictures of women, beat up Steeler fans ... we don't care. Don't go after a dude's family. Don't be racist. Don't be Ghoolie ... and we'll be fine. Zombo
  3. 10 points
    Happy Father's Day to all of the Dads on Board. My Dad was a Steeler fan. Not the front-running, spoiled, crybaby Steeler fan we know in in 2019 ... But an Old School one. He was born in 1928 in New Castle, PA. Steelers were born in 1933, and never won a damn thing until 1974 when my Dad was 46, and I was 10. So he put in his dues, the Steelers were awful back then, maybe worse than the Browns of 99-18. When I was a kid his favorite players were Rocky Bleier and Terry Hanratty, the Notre Dame Guys. He liked Franco too. He thought Bradshaw was an ass. My Dad recognized my passion, and even though we lived a lot closer to Pittsburgh and Buffalo, he would drive me all the way to Cleveland to see my beloved Browns and stand in the cold with me while the mid-seventies Browns were bumbling around and he coulda been home on the warm couch watching the Steelers dominate somebody. So now I've done my suffering. I'm 55 so I have 9 years on Dad when he was left off the hook. I'm due ... and ready. I don't know if the Browns 2018 Draft will measure up in history with the Steelers 1974 draft ... but it sure got off too a good start. Now is our time. I'm sure Dad in heaven agrees ... let his youngest win one. Mom's still here and I've converted her into a full-fledged Browns fan ... so Dad, get a word in up there ... let me taste a championship ... I've earned it too! Zombo
  4. 8 points
    Hello, Browns fans! I'm hanging out after having a kebab in one unknown street of Logroño, in La Rioja. We are not having red wine, but it doesn't matter. I'm single and my best friend is getting happily married in a month, but it doesn't matter. We are not americans, but it doesn't matter either. I'm underpaid architect with big dreams and few stories, but it doesn't matter either. The Browns are a team that has sucked for the most of 20 years, but it doesn't matter. Our quaterback is having trouble after a promising rookie year, but it doesn't matter. We have a rookie head coach who last year was signed as running back coach, but it doesn't matter. We may have injuries, but it doesn't matter. Today, it doesn't matter that we are playing away against the most favored team to win the division. Because today we are winning. It doesn't matter if you are living a shitty moment in your life, if you are rich or poor. No matter the adversity, no one can take away the hope and enthusiasm to see your team winning on a Sunday. I may live thousands of miles away from Cleveland, but today, as every Sunday that the Browns play, part of myself is a million miles away. With my team. With our team. Go Browns!!!!
  5. 8 points
    Word is that the price is 2 firsts..... While Ramsey is a nice player, we presumably have 2 up and coming nice players........if were gonna spend big, lets go for a position of true need......Tackle or Guard anyone?
  6. 8 points
  7. 8 points
    Signing then retiring. “To have the opportunity to come back home and retire with the organization and the city that I love is incredibly meaningful to me,” Dawson said in a release from the team. “It only seems right to have the opportunity to do this with the fans that have been so good to me and my family.”
  8. 8 points
    Here's how the notepad looks from the top down. Forbes - needs a little work on his knee bend, leg drive and lower strength. His height, arm length and weight do make him look like a center candidate. You can tell his arms are shorter than the other tackles just by standing next to them. The 1 on 1 pass pro snaps I saw real quick, he took away the outside then worked his ass off to anchor back in. But he held vs the 2nd team line at tackle drills. Robinson - looks like he trimmed just a bit. Maybe 10lbs. You can see it in the way he walks without having to see the snaps. Perhaps seeing the film vs speed rushers and adjusting/improving his body to the game? Kush - Natural pad level because of his height. Looked like the 1st team RG today at times. Lamm - is an emerging RT option and was 2nd team from what I saw. Got most of his work there and honestly, looked a pinch better than Hubbard a times. Coach Campen - I like him. Hands on and has a bit of fire when he's down lown with his position group. The raw tools for this line need work but the Oline, coaching wise, is in good hands with him. If they are underwhelming, it will be because of the (lack of) talent. Baker was off a bit early in warmups. Missed some passes high. Also, I get that he has moments of brilliance but there were some throws today that just didn't need to be made. I understand you have to live with the good and bad, but avoiding the Farve mentality was something I was praying for. Corbett - I just don't know about this kid. He saw some looks at center and in the 1 on 1 drills. I have no idea how he fits into this line aside from a rotational backup. I don't see full time starter material at any position he has played so far. Possible Center candidate? Mary Kay - spent more time bullshitting and staring at her phone than paying attention to practice. At least, for the first 45 minutes or so that I was in proximity to her. Punt return unit - at the moment, not very inspiring. Couple fumbles - and Callaway is a name that came to mind as a PR man buuuuuut... Callaway - TD drop on a pretty pass to the corner. Wasn't ideal ball placement and he had to elevate just a little, but should be a routine catch for a professional athlete. Hands, hands, hands. Can't have you dropping shit that ends up in the bread basket. Eventually it will come back to bite you. Saw some RPO looks. Or possibly the offensive incorporating more quick hitting alert read off of the gun runs. Good news is, the 2 that I saw went to the man Baker has developed the chemistry with - Higgy. Last year and the off season work now should hopefully pay dividends on ball placement and sight adjustments post/pre snap. Saw a decent amount of cross formation movement from slot receivers. Again, the man was Higgy when I saw. Keep that little theme in mind heading into this season. Hilliard - running low, showing patience, burst and staying behind his pads. Had a nice jump cut to the B gap, planted his foot and got upfield for an 8 yard gain early. Between Chubb and him, running game should be pretty solid to open the year. I don't have many, if any, concerns about those two. 2nd team Oline won inside on the 2nd team dline. And they did it with some frequency. Coley had a nice move in the 11's but that unit is going to need some work. At times though, I couldn't help but wonder if the interior D was holding back a bit? On the edge there isn't as much contact and unless you've been in the middle of those piles, you don't fully appreciate how easy it is to get fucked up by something stupid. Kalis - thought he was the starting RG at first until I saw the number. Took good volume of 2nd string snaps and I think that helped with the interior wins I saw vs the 2nd team Dline. Baker - still needs to work on his drive out from the back foot under center and making the pivot foot a bit lighter/smoother with a more immediate turn. See; Brady, Tom. But better than what I initially remember seeing from last season. Greedy - tall, long arms, lean. Still needs to work on adding upper strength and good mass. Not much, mind you. But he's still very young so that will come in time. Has a natural frame that allows him to sit inside on receivers, squeeze them to the boundary than box out with height and length. He did it a couple times to Callaway vertically and you can tell it caught Antonio off guard. But I did see that glimpse of a DB attitude which was nice to see. Remember - I called (will still gladly call) Justin Gilbert a pussy. It showed on the field and in practice. Greedy doesn't strike me as a Gilbert clone in mentality. At least, not for the moment he doesn't. Chris Smith - mostly looked like the 2nd team weakside end. Had a great bull rush in 1 on 1's but beyond that it was ho hum day from him. A lot of odd/out breaking routes from the #2's in formation. Coaches believe Baker has the accuracy and we have the receivers to continuously attack the perimeter. I'm fine with it. Plus it avoids the middle of the field and that's the place Baker tends to get into trouble so far. #99 - Devaroe Lawrence? Left the field early. Look like he tweaked his shoulder. But no real injuries beyond that it looked like. Linebackers - miiiiiiiiiiiiight still be an issue in the running game. Let me say this - from what I saw today, if I want to beat this defense, I'm going to run right at them. Fuck the runs outside, I'll avoid Myles and at times Vernon. I want to test your manhood. ISO, traps, IZ, power, whatever. I'll work at Jobi until he's spelled, maybe somehow combo Sheldon and then sprinkle in a lead afterwards. Because I don't see the nasty, downhill enforcer on this team that is going to set the tone between the tackles. And week 1 vs 6'3 240lb Derrick Henry. That is a fantasy and football matchup I'm personally going to avoid for the moment re; Browns defense. Chad Thomas - for the tweet I posted about him, he jumped offsides twice other times. You see physical gifts and it's not hard to tell when he's out there. I'm just hoping the physical meets the mental and we have a player that can contribute good minutes. The spin move he put on Hubbard was filthy. Like, the kid CAN do it. Doing it consistently and when it's full team live fire though? We'll see. But Garrett's comments on Wilks letting the pass rushers do their thing and find their moves? Looks like some early truth to that. Hubbard - won a couple times vs Vernon when they were matched up. Quite handily to the outside too. I think he struggles against edge rushers with length. The compact bodies, such as Vernon, make it easier to win against when you land that initial punch. Watching the DB's - Not a fan of some of the off coverage I saw. At times I felt it was too easy for receivers to get into their routes. Granted I understand Wilks reasoning, but I'm just old school yet at the same time, new school. You have to beat the QB AND the receivers today. But we gave up a couple passes with CB's playing off, dropping to a low hip and then peaking back inside (Greedy, I'm looking at you) At this point - I just caught wind of the conversation behind me. These two dudes were gossiping the entire time like catty bitches in the coffeeshop. When I finally took a moment away from the field when the 1st and 2nd team swapped out, they were going on about being enlightened through Jesus Christ - but went on to the topic of the strippers they've hooked up with. Either way, take your asses elsewhere if you're not going to appreciate or even watch what's happening on the field. Great read - Baker had a great ball fake and a nice read outside on the deepo (deep post) which he dropped over the top for a TD. Couldn't tell the DB in primary though. Too many people with their hands up going nuts. BUT It was Callaway that caught the pass. So a nice redemption from earlier. But you need to land the contested stuff. Separates the good from great. The offense - towards the end had the 2 minute drill which the offense won and capped with a TD. Honestly it was the most in sync (90's boy band joke here) they looked all day. I feel like some tempo at the right times will really go a long way towards helping this team when the regular season hits. Should the rapport keep building with the receivers and the coaches increase their trust with Baker making more changes at the line, it can only help to have another weapon in the arsenal. That's what I have for the moment. I didn't pay a shit ton of attention to the two receivers you're most likely asking about because they don't warrant the attention IMHO right now. I know what they bring to the table. The in house, home grown talent, is what I focused on most today. Overall. More talent than last year but with question marks as to how and where it all fits. My concerns mostly rest with the Oline and the linebackers. But feeling pretty good about most everyone else sans the WR's and edge rushers - That is where this team is clearly head and shoulders above most so I and you should feel great about them.
  9. 8 points
    Hello?.....is this mic on?......tap tap Soooo, it's been an eternity(2 yrs??) since I last posted on the BB.......feels good to step back in and see so many familiar names..... Gotta say, at the time I stepped away(2017), I was completely disgusted with how the team was evolving and taking a LOT of flack for my negativity......Yes, I hated Hue(worst coach ever), Shashi(worst GM ever), Kizer(worst QB ever), Coleman(worst receiver pick ever), etc etc and was just a big fat negative nelly who couldnt see the light of our great progress or recognize all the future stars we had or even understand it was a 5 year endeavor to properly rebuild a team..... So.....do tell me......did anything happen while I was gone.......hmmm? Seems like I fell asleep and had the most awesomest dream everrrrrrr......in my dream we hired a football guy who fired the coach......and he started drafting right, signing quality players and dumping the trash......and in 1 freaking year polished that turd into a gem..... My dream includes names like John Dorsey, Myles Garrett, Nick Chubb, Odell, Jarvis, Ward......and some guy named Baker..... Pinch me please......and tell me it's real!!!!
  10. 8 points
    Well, I guess it's official..... Dorsey sucks. Another self proclaimed draft guru took this guy with his last pick in a pretend draft. Might as well blow the stadium up. This thread will be fun to look back on.............
  11. 8 points
    Hunt kicked that girl, no excuses, and obviously the video did him in. He has been very apologetic, accepted his release, accepted a paltry (by NFL standards) contract, accepted his suspension, and by all reports is doing very well, the commissioners office is even making an exception for him to be around the team. This piece of shit beat the living shit out of his pregnant girlfriend in college, and now he is beating their son and threatening her again. How old is this kid? 3 or 4? Even if they can't "prove" the broken arm was caused by him, he admits to whipping him with the belt and making the boy hold his arms out and punching him in the stomach. If you watched Golic and Wingo this morning, Mike Golic got very emotional and wanted to "punch this jagoff in the stomach" and I agree with him. NFL, if you don't want to stand up for the woman, at least stand up for the kid. Zombo
  12. 7 points
  13. 7 points
    No....Baker needs to be Baker and Baker does not shut his mouth. He needs that chip on his shoulder. What he needs is a better offensive scheme to operate in, and better O linemen in front of him.
  14. 7 points
    You guys can analyze this all you want, but the stats don't lie: We are 1-0 when Nero starts the Official Gameday Thread and 0-2 when BrownsDawgBot starts it. The season is clearly in Nero's hands ... Either he steps up, or he doesn't. Zombo
  15. 7 points
    I'm actually pretty pleased with the Browns. We're learning to play together, We're young. We're talented. We took a Super Bowl team down to the wire with an injury ridden defense. And, other than that 4th and 9 play call, we played a decent game against a top NFL team. We're getting there. Be patient.
  16. 7 points
    This. Also, I am seeing a lot of commercials with Saquan Barkley and Pat Mahomes too ... should they have been concentrating on football too ... or do you think maybe Madison Avenue likes young marketable stars and they have been using them in the offseason for decades? Lamar Jackson so ugly, only commercial he'd get was if they replaced Cheryl's She Shed with the Baltimore Bitch Barn. Z
  17. 7 points
    Did you develop a mental picture of what you think each poster looks like as you read their posts or respond.to them? I sorted through a bunch of images until I could say "yep that's him" !! Tell me if I'm close. Westside Steve...influenced by your avatar, yeah that's Randy Bachman... DieHardBrownsFan... Cal... Woody.. OldBrownsFan... CantonDawg...cant help it, avatar influenced... I'm imagining someone looking like Baker Axe... LogicforSquares... Cleve Tex...I never envisioned him in a cowboy hat. Not a true Texan. Ok I'm ready for mine.. LOL
  18. 7 points
    ............... I just reported the OP.
  19. 7 points
    Thanks Cals! I wasn't a superstar by any means; but I tried for a guy that was only 5'10". I went to countless football camps in the 10 years I played. I also learned a lot about using my lack of height to my advantage in the leverage wars favoring pad height, base and getting to contact/location first. The last camp I went to my junior year in high school that had kids from all over NY state - I won the trophy for the most outstanding offensive linemen. That served as a GREAT reminder to myself that hard work really pays off. Ironically, the guy that handed me the trophy was the Head Coach of a rival school. Anyway, the same guy later became an Athletic Director and hired me as a Head Coach in the high school football program his son played for (as a Center). I played back in the 70s and early 80s when the fundamentals were quite a bit different on the line of scrimmage. Arm length wasn't nearly as important for OL as it is today; and HOF OG John Hannah epitomized why. If anyone is as old as me or older - they know what I'm talking about. For example, when I played it was very common for offensive linemen to wear arm pads. As my older brother used to say - "Asss kickers use these as a weapon you throw into the opponent's rib cage. Asss kickees wear these for protection." Like he said, we used to throw our forearms into the guys we were blocking while we were also hitting them with our shoulder pads. In the offseason, I did a lot of power cleans to prepare for throwing those padded up flippers where they belonged. I also did a lot of deadlifts and leg presses. While all that was important, the key to winning position was always getting to location/contact first, better pad height, and superior base. We did a board drill where we had 1 blocker going against another. It started by the 2 OL facing each other in the middle of a board that was about 8-10 yards long. It ended when 1 guy drove the other off the end of the board. That not only taught leverage; but it prevented complacency with starters and provided motivation for backups on a 60 man roster. "You want MY job? All you gotta do is beat me!" That became the mindset one earned busting tail all offseason and inseason to establish; and in order to defend such a passion - you can't be a nice guy. Today, the mosh pit is different and the fundamentals have changed as the game has evolved to emphasize the pass. Length of arms and size and strength of hands have become essential to OL achieving success despite some occasional exceptions to the rule. I don't know how I would have done 5-10 years later to be honest. Sorry for the testosterone stories; but this 55 year old has been appreciates the rare opportunity to pretend I was something in this game once upon a time...
  20. 7 points
    What I really like is that I see we can, once again, say fuck! Fuck bitch fuck ass shit fuck..... Life is good again......
  21. 7 points
    What is a has-been, a rookie, and a never-was, Alex?
  22. 7 points
    Word on the internet is that Bill Nelson has passed away. No official link yet. Bill was the quarterback when I became a Browns fan as a child, and will always be the image I have in mind when I first hear "quarterback". His knees were gone at that point, but he was a gutsy leader who lead us to three divisional championships, two in the old NFL Century division, and our first in the AFC Central. Thank you, Bill for being my childhood image of what a quarterback should be! Zombo
  23. 7 points
    I’m not concerned about the finances of a billionaire that turned into a politician. I’m more concerned about the finances of politicians that turn into millionaires.
  24. 6 points
    My fears for this team heading into this season... - Interior Oline. Who looked OK today for the most part. - Commitment to the running game. Which Freddie and Monken did a masterful job of shoving their heads up their own asses after the first drive. - Having a coaching staff obsessed with their shiny toys. I.E. Baker, ODB, Landry, etc etc. - Forgetting that this team and young QB (emphasis on young) is still at its best when they run the ball, setup playaction, the bootlegs, etc etc... then attack the short to intermediate field. - A defense that was left on the field far too long - A QB that, once you frustrate him, gets too far in his own head and starts throwing the ball pissed off. Leading to wild pitches that end up high and into DB's hands. Some of these are scheme, others are mentality that aren't easily broken, if at all broken. Baker throwing that pick to Logan Ryan is InFuckingExcusable. Part of the Farve mentality I've mentioned on here a few times. Sure, you may get a big time throw here and there. But there will come a game when it fucks your WHOLE team over because you just haven't met a single throw you didn't like. This team needs a serious Come-To-Jesus moment early. Style and Flash will never beat passion and substance. The Jets play quality defense and if this coaching staff doesn't respect the Williams Duo and tries to make Baker do it all, they will turn the ball over and they WILL lose. Tennessee flat beat you at your own game today. They rode the hot hand of their bruising RB, forced the defense to consistently stop them. They setup their QB for success with play action, some high percentage throws and sprinkled in some creative screen looks. Thank Christ I took Henry in the 3rd round. Vrabel has a real weapon on his hands there. It was nothing short of a fucking clinic as to how the Browns SHOULD have played today. Get this fixed early because this season is very dependent on getting off to a quality start. The back half of this schedule was pretty unforgiving and so far the 2 other AFCN teams looked pretty damn respectable.
  25. 6 points
    I AM cool! I just finished cleaning "old, outdated stuff" outta the fridge! Now I'm warming up with a fresh, cold beer. Mike
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