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  1. 5 points
    No, no, no, no, no. Please...let's do something COMPLETELY different for a change....and TAKE the good players. We can get TWO of 'em!!! Don't let other teams have the really good players please!! for kryse sake....
  2. 4 points
    I mean... No,it's not. Barkley may be amazing, but you need to look at the difference between him and the other HBs, where we could draft those HBs, and the positional value.
  3. 3 points
    If they draft a RB with the #1 overall pick this year, who are they going to pick at #1 overall with NEXT year’s pick?
  4. 3 points
    Dorsey wouldn't be doing his job if he didn't ascertain the value of #1. It doesn't mean he ultimately trades it. What if a team offers several #1's? You have to do you due dligence.
  5. 3 points
    I wonder if those nuclear weapons were made using the uranium that Hillary sold them?
  6. 3 points
    Here's what I've said all along about what Dorsey is going to do: Having the 1 and 4 in the first round, AND three second rounders is simply too much draft capital for a GM to have, and there's just NO WAY he can help himself. Dorsey is going to prove he's the smartest person in the room, that he can get more picks AND his top rated players, and that he can do what no other Browns GM could do, and that's find the right QB even while trading down. I can just feel it. Dorsey won't be able to help it. Here's the thing....when you have the 1 and 4, you DON'T HAVE TO TRADE DOWN. You can literally take your favorite QB, and then still take your next favorite pick at 4 because qb's are very likely to be taken 2 and 3. Even if Barkley or that Guard are taken, that's fine because Dorsey doesn't take RBs in the first round, and Guard is the one position we actually don't need. So guess what? The guy we want to be available at 4, is probably going to BE THERE! So why even THINK about trading down? Because it's worked so well in the past? I realize I sound ridiculous and I'm paranoid because of what's happened to us in the past. But I just can't stomach seeing another Julio Jones, Carson Wentz, or whoever else going on to have some terrific career, while we have to suffer through miserable seasons and watching the guys we traded down for turn into complete bozos that contribute nothing. Remember the 2014 draft? Yeah, THAT one. No, not because we drafted Manziel, but because we traded down and picked Justin Gilbert. Oh yeah...Justin freaking Gilbert. The guy that we did basically ZERO background on. The guy our scouts said they didn't want. The guy who was a complete asshat. Who didn't we draft? Khalil Mack. Yes, the guy I wanted. We fans have suffered too much because of the ARROGANCE of these freaking GMs who just HAVE to prove how smart they are. Draft the best player available at the biggest position of need and let the chips fall where they may.
  7. 2 points
    That's the problem. There ARE no guarantees in waiting & I say take no chances. IF you really want a particular QB...Get him at #1!!......THAT'S a guarantee!!!!! There will still be one hell of a player at 4. Think about it...IF we get Allen, Darnold, Mayfield, or Rosen at #1....then left at #4 are the other 3 top QBs , then Barkley, Chubb, Fitzpatrick, McGlinchey & more. That means AT LEAST 2 of those last 4 I mentioned will still be there at #4 & that's if NOBODY takes a QB at #2 or #3. IF a team selects ONE QB at either 2 or 3, we are then GUARANTEED that EITHER Chubb or Barkley are there at #4. That's a lot of quality & I'll take those odds. Mike
  8. 2 points
    Dane Brugler‏Verified account @dpbrugler 9m9 minutes ago More I reached out for a NFL scout's opinion of how the top QBs performed today. Here is how he ranked the Combine workouts: 1) Mayfield "accurate and quick" 2) Allen "some consistency" t-3) Rosen and Jackson "underwhelming" Just one opinion, but interesting nonetheless...
  9. 2 points
    Then there is Shaquem Griffin. He's a terrific lb - has one hand. OMG, how cool - he did 20 reps bench press with a prosthetic arm. I love to watch him play. He IS a *FOOTBALL PLAYER*
  10. 2 points
    it isn't that they traded down, it's that they judged talent stupidly. Nobody would think that gilbert and coleman LOVED the game, had a great work ethic, etc. They drafted Corey Coleman in the first round, instead of big Michael Thomas out of Ohio State. How freaking stupid was that? Michael Thomas went midrange in the second round? went to the pro bowl? Canton Mike and I talked about him all the time. Dorsey and co. will NOT make those stupid appraisals. They will be drafting ***football players***.
  11. 2 points
    Pure manimal! Don't screw this up Dorsey! You take this beast number 1 overall and the next best available QB. Don't be an idiot!
  12. 2 points
    I think it is interesting having this kind of conversations because say Giants and Broncos prefer the same guy (let's say Rosen) while our staff prefers, say Darnold. In the end, when it's about top picks it's hard to completely hide your cards, so Browns negotiating with the Broncos would scare the sh!t out of NY and then they decide to trade up from #2 to #1 just to assure they take Rosen. We still get the top QB in our list and get some more revenue. Even if I don't like the idea of taking any risks trading down, I think these negotiations are necessary so we have a wider set of options and control the draft market.
  13. 1 point
    When there is a generational talent at a position of need, you take him at #1. Not only that, An identity is so needed on this team and it finally arrives in the form of Saquon Barkley. Very, very excited. Also, we should be thanking Chubb for his excellent combine showing. That should lock him up at 3. Leaving only NYG selecting the first QB. Man oh, man which QB to throw to J.Gordon and crew??
  14. 1 point
    Meant to make a poll a while ago. Obviously a great story, but an underrated player as well, IMO.
  15. 1 point
    Ok, so which WR at 35 is better than Landry? And aren't the Browns like 100 million under the cap?
  16. 1 point
    Our LBs aren't great, he'd be a great lockerroom and attitude guy, and his floor is probably special teams star
  17. 1 point
    Browns are a little short handed with LB depth.
  18. 1 point
    Yeah, I figured you'd like that it was listed!
  19. 1 point
    I agree and listening to the GB GM who said the combine is to get in depth medicals and to validate what they already know on tapes while using the interview process to rule in or out some players. I already know from having watched Kirk for 3 years that he has exactly what you want in a slot receiver-- hands, speed and quickness. The added plus is his numerous punt returns for TDs and very decent KO returns. He's an "in space" kind of player and the Browns really need that kind of player to help the outside WRs be better weapons and assist the QB in getting rid of the ball quickly to someone who can snag it and get the 1st downs. He's a Brady kind of guy type receiver. Combine just reinforced that and he is a quality kid from a quality family and that will show in the interviews. I hope he is there in the 2nd, but after the combine I doubt it. I've read the Eagles have interviewed him and want him @ #32. GMs will figure out what not having a true passer meant for this year's stats for him.
  20. 1 point
    What mess are we in? The only peril is propaganda spun by the left-wing Trump left wing Trump hating press. WSS
  21. 1 point
    But, why are you even complaining about that? We're gonna save 140,000 steel and aluminum jobs. Who cares is millions of others lose their jobs in the process and our economy tanks due to trade wars? It's simple economics, my good fellow.
  22. 1 point
    Here is yet ANOTHER thing that will make me laugh, when somebodies pick does well at the combine, the ones for him will say "see I told you" and the ones against will say "it was just the combine, underwear olympics" and when THEIR guy doesn't do as well, it will be "Well it's just a workout, watch the TAPE or his highlights" People will use anything for or against THEIR opinion, whether for or against. It ALL matters, and still not a guarantee. Josh Allen had a good combine, while Rosen didn't. What happened today didn't make either one a better or worse player than what they were before. It may have changed their "stock", but they aren't a better or worse player than they were 24 hours ago.
  23. 1 point
    Love lists like this. I live about 30 minutes north of Mansfield and go there every weekend for groceries. I will have to try both of those listed.
  24. 1 point
    Norman is quite a mover. Strictly an indoor cat, (dang, he's developing the build of Orlando Brown, now that he's been rescued) but I'll time him when he rockets up 14 stairs to the bedrooms.
  25. 1 point
    Hooker with a torn ACL Or The #4 pick and Peppers? Oh, there are people here that would still say option 1 lol. But let's not go into this too much now.
  26. 1 point
    Not really. None of us have any control over what will happen April 26th. I've said a bunch of times the odds of Saquon being there at #4 are way better than our preferred qb being there.
  27. 1 point
    My dream is #1 Barkley and #4 Mayfield, which is realistic. Immediately gives us explosiveness. If we add someone like Jarvis Landry, damn we'll look sick. Only thing is we need a veteran QB to mentor whoever we chose as well. If We took Minkah and a QB too i'd be happy. Just please, for the love of god don't trade down to 22.
  28. 1 point
    We could take Minkah and a QB too. I think we should stand pat instead of trading down this year. I know Schefter said we might trade down this year, but trading the #1 pick would leave me with a bad taste, especially if we don't take a QB #1 or #4.
  29. 1 point
    remember I said "eyeroll" ? that means that throwing 90 yards is nice, but weedon could have done that, I think.
  30. 1 point
    Ya.... but if you can get the shelf life Adrian Peterson had... RB is another glaring hole on the roster and really has been for a while. having a superior runner is a huge plus for any QB if you don’t see a QB in the draft that separates himself from the pack... and you have pick 4 to take the pick of the ones left... Would you trade the number 1 pick for Elliott? I feel like I would. Especially giving the Browns draft history. Christ with the Browns draft history... I’d give away all the draft picks for proven vets... all the Browns do is waste first round picks...
  31. 1 point
    To bad we had to sit down and eat that 16 week Sh it sandwich they served up though.
  32. 1 point
  33. 1 point
    Josh Allen's arm
  34. 1 point
    Liking Kirk at wr
  35. 1 point
    While I enjoy your ambition and passion - T Pryor is just a diluted version of Josh Gordon in the sense of the types of routes he's best at/limited to in a playbook. Not anything really emphasizing change of direction or getting open immediately. Some will scuff at such a comment but Gordon hasn't meant ski-wat to this franchise winning. For example, he joined a 6-4 team in progress in 2014 - and we only went 1-4 in the games he played before the coaching staff suspended him for the last game. His promises we'd see the best version of Josh Gordon we had ever seen amounted only to 1 TD reception and a reception and yardage inventory well below HIS previous norms. And this year, he didn't score a TD when he returned while our winning percentage remained at 0%. Long story short, since that 2013 Pro Bowl season he had where we only won 4 games - he's only scored 1 TD in his last 10 starts. While Gordon was suspended, T Pryor had over 1000 yards but only scored 2 TDs. Then he went to Washington for a forgettable season that included nagging injuries. Again, he's not a get open quickly kind of guy or someone that can run any route in the playbook. If we want our QBs getting the ball out quickly - you want a Jarvis Landry or the dream (Antonio Brown). Landry is now available via trade but there's varying reports changing by the hour about how much we would need to part with. He was at the top of my grocery list until 1 report said he'd cost 2 first round picks. That has changed since BUT people prefer a young 26 year old vet with an unmatched work ethic and proven success to an unknown rookie that might be an entitled diva. I think Coleman will get another camp; but the dropsies, injuries and body catching (especially in traffic) aren't gotta have/keeper qualities. Sometimes bad habits that have been perfected and repeated over time can't just be coached up as easily as fans would like. I hope he proves his naysayers wrong but it's hard to hold me breath for the guy. His window of opportunity could be slamming shut fast. I think the biggest part of improvement moving forward is to be honest in the evaluation process, not to be confused with wishful thinking. If a guy can't catch he can't catch. A lot of the guys we drafted that serial killed drives with dropsies that allegedly just needed to be coached up never went on to start for another team. For example, Greg Little or "Bottlegate" star Quincey Morgan. Can you imagine if Cris Carter was a body catcher? QBs loved throwing to him even when he was well covered because he had the best hands on the planet aside from his size advantage over most corner. When Corey is well covered - what quality makes a QB feel like they have to throw to him anyway? Nothing at this time unfortunately. The WR Corps we've been sentenced to hasn't given us a lot to be confident about. The GOOD news is we suddenly have a lot of experience in our FO with proven success at the draft, trades and FA. I'm feeling confident in their ability to change our WR Corps for the reasons I just mentioned.
  36. 1 point
    Brown has Cam Erving written all over him. What a pathetic showing yesterday. He should contract out to rep the Pillsbury Doughboy while his stock is high. Or IHOP pancakes.
  37. 1 point
    Only military and retired military (under certain circumstances) are subject to the UCMJ. I read through that and didn't see anything referring to Federal Civilians. Perhaps a lawyer on here could find it.
  38. 1 point
    I love everything you said. I've made similar statements about Kizer, and there's a small part of me that actually wants us to commit to Deshone Kizer as the starting QB. If we did that, we could trade down, pick at 1 and 4 (Barkley and Minkah Fitzpatrick anyone?), and invest heavily in the WR position and secondary. Of course, this isn't realistic, as Kizer didn't do ANYWHERE near enough to warrant that type of confidence...but I have to admit...there's definitely a small bit of me that wants to see what Kizer would look like with our total confidence, another year under the belt, better weapons, and a real running game. I'm obviously a Browns fan, so that means I'm terrified when I hear "trade down". I'm so completely tired of trying to get picks and missing out on top talent. I honestly don't think I can survive another year of that (as a fan). But again, I'm hoping the ONLY way we'll even think about trading down is if we somehow manage to get Kirk or we figure out a way to include a QB in the trade down. So, could we maybe trade down with a team like the Giants? They move up to take the QB they want, and we get Eli Manning? This is just an example, so please don't start yelling at me. But....if we trade down and we don't get the first QB off the board (or a veteran qb in the deal) I'm going to lose my freaking mind, and there will be no consoling me. I can just hear it now, people. We trade down, multiple QBs come off the board by the time our #4 comes along, and you're going to read all about how the QB we really wanted got snatched right in front of us, and the band will play on with a song we ALL know only too well. A sad song, full of misery, loss, and a pervasive lack of hope. Oh yeah, and draft Baker Mayfield. You know, the guy who throws the ball to people in stride and who actually is dying to play for us? Yes, that guy.
  39. 1 point
    He forgot about the leading 4 Ag. Just too excited. Yeah, Barkley is good- as Mayock said "he checks all the boxes". Checked them enough that we might potentially have to go with the third best QB? Remains to be seen. EDIT: I'll (sort of) take that back. To flip picks with the Colts to move up from #4 to #3- should only cost us our #35, which his plenty- going by draft value chart. If we have two quarterbacks rated exactly equal, and another team doesn't offer the Colts a King's Ransom for the #3.
  40. 1 point
    Too much hype for a guy who gets tackled too easily and just hits a HR now and then to boost his average. Now Michel is just a damn tough runner who gets yds after first contact and has great vision/cutting ability. I think we have to trade up into the 1st to get him though. Maylock gets it.
  41. 1 point
    Out of context (MSM - no surprise). Here's a question for ya, is the Left now defending "Due Process" ?
  42. 1 point
    The guy is a dynamic playmaker, don't pass him up. Depending on which QB you like best, there is an excellent chance of getting him at four, with no pressure on him if we bring in a bridge QB as well. Zombo --I like Darnold best, but Barkley/Rosen or Barkley/Mayfield could be a great combo, if our war room likes those guys more or as much.
  43. 1 point
    Then why wasn't his yds/carry much better? Michel's at 7.9 this year were off the charts. Just not buying.
  44. 1 point
    Bill, Is it true that that particular steak is marinated in syrup of ipecac ?? Mike
  45. 1 point
    Glad to hear he is just taking a break.
  46. 1 point
    I like zegura and wilhelm they are a good listen for those that don’t
  47. 1 point
    True and there are plenty of "experts" out there giving their opinions. I have a few that I like and respect their opinion. DJ and Mayock on NFL network are my 2 go to guys. Jeremiah worked as a scout for the Browns, Ravens and Philly so I tend to give his opinion more credit than a made up tv hack like Kiper.
  48. 1 point
    Dorsey is just doing what every good GM has to do. That is Listen. There is so much that still needs to be determined before the browns are on the clock and so many factors could change their draft strategy. What if they sign Kirk Cousins? They are not going to be selecting a qb #1 at that point. What if the Giants offer the #2 and OBJ for the #1 pick? or the Jets offer Leonard Williams, Robby Anderson, their #6 pick, plus a 2019 mid-rounder for the #1 pick? What if it's not the #1 pick, but the #4 pick and AZ offers Peterson and the #15 pick? Trading down does not always mean draft picks. SO much still needs to be determined before the Browns make a decision that, it is in the Browns best interest to weigh ALL of their options, not just a qb at #1. Honestly, I like most of the qb's in this draft and would be perfectly fine with any of them. They all have their flaws but they all have strong points. What happens if the Browns determine there is no difference between Allen and White or Lauletta? Why take Allen at #1 or #4 when you know you are going to get either of those guys in the second or third AND you can add players to the mix. I'm not saying this is the direction they should go, but this could very well be a possibility. Let's not forget, Kizer is still on this roster. He had a bad year last year, but he is only 21 years old and everyone knew he needed time to develop when he came out. He could make a big jump in-between his first and second year (see Goff) and really open the browns eyes. Especially if they bring on a veteran such as McCarron or Bradford or Keenum where the browns then feel good about the qb position for a few years. You don't have to take a qb at #1 then. You could take one of the later round guys and develop them along with Kizer.
  49. 1 point
    Yes, Rosen is throwing. Stock up! If you don't believe in yourself - who will? Darnold is not. Stock down! Yeah, I know he's working with the same guy (Jordan Palmer) that worked with DeShaun Watson for ideal results. However, Watson still participated in the combines and it went well enough for a team to trade up to #12 overall to take him. He's going to get interviewed by interested team so he can tell them "hey I've recently altered some mechanics so I'm not quite where I want to be just yet; but I LOVE to compete so here I am. Having said that, I hope you'll notice some progress when you see me again at my Pro Day." Or, something to that effect. Believe in yourself kid! IMO, this is an ideal chance to compete especially considering Darnold's 2017 troubles with pocket pressure with the fumbles. Here's the chance to throw with no pass rushers challenging mechanics, time to throw and ball security. Even better, there's no corners messing up routes or throws. Take advantage of these goodies in front of people that may want to invest in you. Show them what you'd be like with reasonable pass pro and WRs that can actually get open. The drills are just specified drops/roll-outs and throw to an area. Last year, the best 2 QBs by far on those quick out throws were Watson and Trubisky. They also looked best overall to me. They were my 1A and 1B last year. That said, I usually found myself defending Watson to people that only liked Trubisky. I'll say this again this year - you don't have to like just 1 QB or prematurely entrench yourself into 1 QB camp 6-8 weeks before the combines. Not to sound like Bart Simpson giving advice on etiquette...
  50. 1 point
    Fitzpatrick. Have two young killers on the line and the secondary
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